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Old 02-09-2012, 09:54 AM   #1
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1,057,904 impressions later

since Feb 1st my banner and text ad got 1,057,904 impressions

4,161 clicks resulted from that one million in this 8.5 days period.

zero signups..and the cost was just shy of $200
I'm using the affliates own landing page as the page where this traffic goes.

So for those of you that know this game, I seek advice.

do I try another affliate/program and its landing page with this traffic source?
or is 41 hundred visits over 9 days not enough volume to make a judgement like that?

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Old 02-09-2012, 10:00 AM   #2
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Replace that banner with a VideoSecrets flash animated banner. You'll see income... lots of it over time.
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Old 02-09-2012, 01:23 PM   #5
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Replace that banner with a VideoSecrets flash animated banner. You'll see income... lots of it over time.
I signed up with you guys back in 99 or 2000. I was very impressed with your models and the quality of the video. back in those days it was a feat and a half to see clear sharp color video with almost no lag. I envisioned my empire taken off for the heavens.

but I think I made 2 or 3 hundred and that was all. and that wa s over a two year period.........I hope this isnt seen as bashiing or drama. Its just me telling my experience.
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Old 02-09-2012, 01:32 PM   #6
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What is the source of said traffic? If you are talking a bunch of crap ass tube traffic then this is not surprising at all.

If this is traffic you bought from one of those traffic networks, see above.

If however you are talking quality SE traffic, then it's time you find a new sponsor to work with.
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Old 02-09-2012, 01:39 PM   #7
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Yeah man, Even shit traffic can convert if it's easy enough.
The problem is 4k clicks is going to convert to less than $200 if you use the $1 sign up at chaturbate.
So you're not going to get any ROI.
However. If you roll with the REV share you never know. You're rolling the dice. You may catch a spender and you may not.
Certainly worth a shot IMO.
I know I make good money from chaturbate and I can just about guarantee you I'm doing it all wrong.. lol
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Old 02-09-2012, 01:45 PM   #8
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for real ? I got 1:10-1:15 on $1/free chaturbate after some optimisation, speak for yourself;)

plus try dating gold or loaded cash, they pay per lead.
also it seems you had 0.4% ctr and used default banners, always better to make your own which look like somebody "unskilled" done them, not that promo banners which never converts.

Don't spend $200 to see it, use what I suggest.

What was the traffic source anyway ?
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Old 02-09-2012, 01:45 PM   #9
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then again, why stick with cams as the promoted page? yeah I know rev share. But Im still at the (re)start of my empire....... I'm looking over who I have now in the noncam sponsors list......
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Where Roald to tell us how hard it is to get traffic. LOL
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Where Roald to tell us how hard it is to get traffic. LOL
Right here Paul and you are right again.

Buying traffic aint hard at all
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Right here Paul and you are right again.

Buying traffic aint hard at all
I would suggest that buying productive traffic might be slightly more difficult.
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Old 02-09-2012, 03:17 PM   #14
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for real ? I got 1:10-1:15 on $1/free chaturbate after some optimisation, speak for yourself;)

plus try dating gold or loaded cash, they pay per lead.
also it seems you had 0.4% ctr and used default banners, always better to make your own which look like somebody "unskilled" done them, not that promo banners which never converts.
I agree, any source you should be pulling at least 1.5% with a good banner and also product.

Also, many of the affiliates I see having success are also building their own landing pages.

Last, there's quit a number of member websites that guys are having success with, I don't want to betray any of our advertisers trust by posting what the promote on GFY, but the common thing they all seem to have is unique content not cookie cutter DVD type stuff.
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1,057,904 impressions but only 4,161 clicks for $200? (either your banner or your text ad were not attractive enough to incite a click, or your ads were not in a highly visible area i.e.: buried in with a ton of other ads or just a bad position). but $200 for 4,161 clicks will never be profitable for you..

I would test out different banners and text to increase the number of clicks.. and yes, if you were 0:4161, you might want to try another program.

And you would probably be better off sending the traffic to a site of your own with multiple programs/sites than sending direct to one site in an affiliate program.
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apparently
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since Feb 1st my banner and text ad got 1,057,904 impressions

4,161 clicks resulted from that one million in this 8.5 days period.

zero signups..and the cost was just shy of $200
I'm using the affliates own landing page as the page where this traffic goes.

So for those of you that know this game, I seek advice.

do I try another affliate/program and its landing page with this traffic source?
or is 41 hundred visits over 9 days not enough volume to make a judgement like that?

thanks for reading
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If you would consider sending your traffic to our program....

I will not make you empty promises...but I can show you stats from the past 7 days of traffic from our affiliates and we have converted the traffic at 1/300 period....

The affiliate traffic totaled around 3000 clicks (less than the 4000 that you paid for) so you would have made your $200.00 bucks back and then between 100-200 bucks on top of your traffic investment!

Give it some thought and grab some of our banners after you sign up for our program! If you are not satisfied with your results I will personally mail you out a batch of free dvds!

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Just tell us the sponsor, show us the banner, and tell us what kind and from where you bought the traffic. People who are afraid to share their ideas are typically afraid that they themselves will never have another good idea.
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You are an affiliate. The company you send traffic to and who pays you is a sponsor or affiliate program.
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So very few paysites can profit from bought banner placements right now.. the competition from all the fake penis pills sites and what not has taken the prices through the roof.
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Just tell us the sponsor, show us the banner, and tell us what kind and from where you bought the traffic. People who are afraid to share their ideas are typically afraid that they themselves will never have another good idea.
no it's stupid to out your shit as people will copy it. and they will.
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send traffic to <insert affiliate link code here> cause its better!
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Where Roald to tell us how hard it is to get traffic. LOL
Can you admit now that you are utterly clueless? Either that or you don't read anything and just come up with some bullshit off the wall replies. Pick one.
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no it's stupid to out your shit as people will copy it. and they will.
Not if you only tell them what you want them to know. If it's just an unproven 'idea', it can actually be helpful to offer selective information so as you can learn by observation as they try it out first. Minus the x-factor, of course.
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you need to improve your covertingskills, be creative. buying a banner and sending it to the sponsor landingspage isnt, you will never make real money
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Right here Paul and you are right again.

Buying traffic aint hard at all
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He bought the traffic moron
I see now. For it to be [B"traffic" [/B]it has to be not bought, not rubbish, not freeloaders, not what ever Roald says it should not be. And enough to buy something.

I get it now.

Roald don't you sell traffic? So buying traffic from you ain't hard at all.

Maybe we should do an experiment Roald, you and me.

I buy some Freeones clicks on ads, you nominate the sites and ads. Then we will see if it's traffic that's hard to get or sales.
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I see now. For it to be [B"traffic" [/B]it has to be not bought, not rubbish, not freeloaders, not what ever Roald says it should not be. And enough to buy something.

I get it now.

Roald don't you sell traffic? So buying traffic from you ain't hard at all.

Maybe we should do an experiment Roald, you and me.

I buy some Freeones clicks on ads, you nominate the sites and ads. Then we will see if it's traffic that's hard to get or sales.
Paul, you dont know traffic

PS. I dont have to prove you or anyone else anything. I am not the one acting like an idiot making idiotic claims. Told you im just here to annoy you and it seems work well
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I don't know what you're promoting but thats some shit ratios. I'd get a refund on that traffic. Don't and I mean don't send them to FHG pages send the straight to the site tour pages.




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since Feb 1st my banner and text ad got 1,057,904 impressions

4,161 clicks resulted from that one million in this 8.5 days period.

zero signups..and the cost was just shy of $200
I'm using the affliates own landing page as the page where this traffic goes.

So for those of you that know this game, I seek advice.

do I try another affliate/program and its landing page with this traffic source?
or is 41 hundred visits over 9 days not enough volume to make a judgement like that?

thanks for reading
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try selling something that matches the traffic. If its just general traffic your wasting your time.
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Change your sponsor and your banner
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Just tell us the sponsor, show us the banner, and tell us what kind and from where you bought the traffic. People who are afraid to share their ideas are typically afraid that they themselves will never have another good idea.
yeah that would be another drama novela. not interested in doing that. besides its entirely possible as someone has suggested that my .4% ctr is due to my poor choice in text and or graphics. Or it could be the spondors page sucks ass. or his stats are full of shit. or the ad broker has me buried.

Why I posted this thread was to hear the thoughts of those who are much more experienced at this than I am. I need to hear how my stats stood as seen by experienced eyes.

I changed the landing page to a new niche and new site - http://hentai-blitz.com
I'm 13 hours into the new campaign and the clicks are beating the shit outta webcams clicks. and STILL I have a 0.4 CTR.

and then theres the descrepency between visits that google says I have and the clicks that the ad broker says I got. like more than 2:1. Is that normal? is google behind in the count and they'll catch up? is my broker BSing me? or am I the newbie who dosnt know clicks and visits are not the same thing?

time and gfyers will tell. Trolls not withstanding.

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who do you recommend fo banners? and I need reasonable pricing as much as I need help with my shit graphics talent.....
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Right here Paul and you are right again.

Buying traffic aint hard at all
damn you were fast with that reply...
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You are an affiliate. The company you send traffic to and who pays you is a sponsor or affiliate program.
This sounds like a fatfoo post man! :D
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you need to improve your covertingskills, be creative. buying a banner and sending it to the sponsor landingspage isnt, you will never make real money
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I don't know what you're promoting but thats some shit ratios. I'd get a refund on that traffic. Don't and I mean don't send them to FHG pages send the straight to the site tour pages.
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an update since switching to new keywords and a new targeted niche and landing page
these are totals since friday midnight or 2.5 days:

415,045 impressions

1,901 clicks

0.46% CTR

$0.06 CPC

of those clicks for the ad, those clicks that went onto my sonsors pages
336 uniques with 123 clicks moving onto the join page

Google says 2,201 unique visitors with 2.55% returning visits or 57 returning visits

its all very encouraging, until you read
0 sales
I understand I cant have an expectation that 336 visits to my sponsor will resullt in a sale, still you hope for 1 or 2 dont ya?


One person had mentioned my adbrokers CTR is shit. Is that the view of others as well? should I bring this up to them monday?

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Did you create a landing page yourself or are you sending straight to the tour?
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you rae too nice
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And Roald, please stay that way
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In the future don't use that traffic provider and send all banner clicked traffic directly to the tour pages, you don't want to lose the visitor on a FHG, they already showed interest when clicking on the banner
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He said he's sending traffic to affiliates, though. Are you sure he isn't the traffic fairy?
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Where Roald to tell us how hard it is to get traffic. LOL
You really don't get it, do you? You can't honestly be this blind and idiotic.
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Did you create a landing page yourself or are you sending straight to the tour?
created it myself. sort of - its RSTGP with no trades or outlinks except to my sponsor.
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