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  • ClickCastX
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    • Jul 2011
    • 405

    #1

    How To Tell HTML From HTML5


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  • Fletch XXX
    GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
    • Jan 2002
    • 60840

    #2
    simple background gradients dont work in ie, its silly.

    i just coded the elevatedx mobile paysite demo and had to work in all the ie bullshit... fuck IE

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    • seeandsee
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      • Mar 2006
      • 50945

      #3
      IE lol, i didt saw anybody using it for years, even "i dont fucking know nothing about comp" people...
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      • fris
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Aug 2002
        • 55679

        #4
        IE is such a shitty web browser, none of the good effects will even work on it
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        • The Truth Hurts
          Zph7YXfjMhg
          • Nov 2002
          • 15732

          #5
          Originally posted by Fletch XXX
          simple background gradients dont work in ie, its silly.
          use PIE works great.

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          • TheDoc
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jul 2001
            • 13827

            #6
            Just put a div inside the html5 tag, rather than using html5 for the structure, use it for the markup layout... then it will work in ie.
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            • TheDoc
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jul 2001
              • 13827

              #7
              Just gota cover all the browsers with the gradient stuff... can also drop in a png with a gradient and opacity set on it, called as a background in css.

              Code:
              filter: progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.gradient( startColorstr='#333333', endColorstr='#000000' );
              filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.gradient( startColorstr=’#333333’, endColorstr=’#000000’, GradientType=0 );
              background: -webkit-gradient( linear,left top,left bottom,color-stop( 0%, #333333 ), color-stop( 100%, #000000) );
              background: -moz-linear-gradient( top, #333333, #000000 );
              background-image: -o-linear-gradient( #333333, #000000 );
              background: -webkit-gradient( linear, left top, left bottom, from( #333333 ), to( #000000 ) );
              background: -moz-linear-gradient( top, #333333, #000000 );
              Last edited by TheDoc; 02-20-2012, 08:16 PM.
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              • FlexxAeon
                Confirmed User
                • May 2003
                • 3765

                #8
                holy shit
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                • BSleazy
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 6721

                  #9
                  fun stuff.
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                  • Mutt
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 34431

                    #10



                    piece of shit browser
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                    • sambucas
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 371

                      #11
                      HTML5 is a myth

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                      • Eldon Hoke
                        Confirmed User
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 323

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                        simple background gradients dont work in ie, its silly.

                        i just coded the elevatedx mobile paysite demo and had to work in all the ie bullshit... fuck IE
                        You should have used Chrome Frame:-

                        http://code.google.com/chrome/chromeframe/

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                        • Jakez
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 5656

                          #13


                          Still blows my mind daily how fucked up a browser can be when they have some of the most intelligent minds on the planet employed and plenty of other browsers to take notes from.

                          Originally posted by Eldon Hoke


                          "Google Chrome Frame is an open source plug-in that seamlessly brings Google Chrome's open web technologies and speedy JavaScript engine to Internet Explorer."

                          LMFAO! The other browsers even feel bad for them.. it's so pathetic..
                          Last edited by Jakez; 02-21-2012, 01:08 AM.
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                          • HerPimp
                            Confirmed User
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 1197

                            #14
                            check out opera

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                            • Eldon Hoke
                              Confirmed User
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 323

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jakez


                              Still blows my mind daily how fucked up a browser can be when they have some of the most intelligent minds on the planet employed and plenty of other browsers to take notes from.




                              "Google Chrome Frame is an open source plug-in that seamlessly brings Google Chrome's open web technologies and speedy JavaScript engine to Internet Explorer."

                              LMFAO! The other browsers even feel bad for them.. it's so pathetic..
                              What to piss off IE6 users?

                              Just put this code in your CSS. Their browser will automatically crash:-

                              Code:
                              * {position: relative;}

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                              • Jakez
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 5656

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Eldon Hoke
                                What to piss off IE6 users?

                                Just put this code in your CSS. Their browser will automatically crash:-

                                Code:
                                * {position: relative;}
                                Funny, but why would I want to piss off my surfers? The point is that Microsoft needs to get their shit together, not surfers.
                                Last edited by Jakez; 02-21-2012, 01:51 AM.
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                                • Eldon Hoke
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2011
                                  • 323

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Jakez
                                  Funny, but why would I want to piss off my surfers? The point is that Microsoft needs to get their shit together, not surfers.
                                  Would love to see conversion ratios of just purely IE6 users.

                                  Yes, if Microsoft struggle to make a stable web browser, what does that say about their operating system?

                                  Look at this comparison chart:-

                                  http://html5test.com/results.html

                                  IE9 is still miles behind. Microsoft need to get their shit together and implement a stealthy auto update feature similar to Chrome.

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                                  • Fletch XXX
                                    GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                    • Jan 2002
                                    • 60840

                                    #18
                                    Guys im well aware to cross browser code for ie... Just did elevatedx mobile paysite demo and coded it for multiple gradients cross browser...

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                                    • TheDoc
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 13827

                                      #19
                                      I don't make websites for ie6 anymore.... the amount of sales from ie6 vs. time put in for corrections, is not worth it, and hasn't been for about 3 years. Correcting ie6 basically means you're working for free.

                                      With all other IE versions, as long as the site renders, I don't care what it looks like.... I don't correct gradients, rounded corners, etc... and ratios don't improve when I do.

                                      As long as the site works on the browser, the mission is complete.
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                                      • Barry-xlovecam
                                        It's 42
                                        • Jun 2010
                                        • 18083

                                        #20
                                        IE has its fans ...

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                                        • Fletch XXX
                                          GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                          • Jan 2002
                                          • 60840

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by TheDoc
                                          I don't make websites for ie6 anymore.... the amount of sales from ie6 vs. time put in for corrections, is not worth it, and hasn't been for about 3 years. Correcting ie6 basically means you're working for free.

                                          With all other IE versions, as long as the site renders, I don't care what it looks like.... I don't correct gradients, rounded corners, etc... and ratios don't improve when I do.

                                          As long as the site works on the browser, the mission is complete.
                                          this is basically what I meant in my original post, every little thing you gotta change for IE, simple gradients from webkit should work across all browsers LOL not have to code three lines for every browser, fuck that... the most simplest of things do not render in IE, although I cater to client needs so I code it right hehehe

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                                          • TheDoc
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Jul 2001
                                            • 13827

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                            this is basically what I meant in my original post, every little thing you gotta change for IE, simple gradients from webkit should work across all browsers LOL not have to code three lines for every browser, fuck that... the most simplest of things do not render in IE, although I cater to client needs so I code it right hehehe
                                            I will spend time making sure a site is correct if it's for local business, for sure in smaller cities and towns. Those people love ie, old ass versions of ie at that... then again, most of those sites are rather basic.

                                            But any other sites, I don't care what the client wants, they can pay someone else to do it, because the hours vs work put in, simply isn't worth it.
                                            Last edited by TheDoc; 02-21-2012, 04:29 AM.
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                                            • Eldon Hoke
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Mar 2011
                                              • 323

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                              this is basically what I meant in my original post, every little thing you gotta change for IE, simple gradients from webkit should work across all browsers LOL not have to code three lines for every browser, fuck that... the most simplest of things do not render in IE, although I cater to client needs so I code it right hehehe
                                              It's because the HTML5/CSS3 specs are still in development. They are waiting for vendors to come up with new ideas before a universal standard is implemented. Then you wont have to deal with prefixes, like how CSS2 currently works (without the IE hacks) ;).

                                              This is a good workaround:- http://leaverou.github.com/prefixfree/

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                                              • potter
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Dec 2004
                                                • 6559

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Eldon Hoke
                                                like how CSS2 currently works (without the IE hacks) ;).
                                                lulz. Even a ton of CSS2 is broken in IE6/7.

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                                                • geel
                                                  Registered User
                                                  • Aug 2011
                                                  • 19

                                                  #25
                                                  Min width / max width in all browsers:

                                                  Code:
                                                  min-width:940px;max-width:1200px;
                                                  Min width / max width in Internet Explorer:

                                                  Code:
                                                  width: expression(document.body.clientWidth < 940? "940px" : document.body.clientWidth > 1200? "1200px" : "auto");
                                                  lol?

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