forumophilia.com & megaupload and others

[Radik]

Greetings, so any class actions going on against some of these sites?

It's seriously just disgusting; RapidShare atleast answers almost within the hour.
I guess i'm less pissed at them. But finding the content is almost impossible if it's let's say behind a account only forum.

But these forums; and Megaupload and various others are just piracy hiding behind safe harbour.

Destroying our ability to even pay models or grow; we are in competition with ourselves and they don't charge!! oh wait they make alot off subscriptions to our content.

I know this not new but; this forumophilia.com site has to be someone in the industry it's just gross. Some of these scammers cc'fraud in and then use some sort of automated tool to pull your content and post to dozens of sites inside 10 minutes of publishing new contant. Making money off the downloads.

Like I said? anyone other than perfect 10 try and get these guys served?
Safe harbour was/is not designed to protect sites like this.

Keeping shit off google will atleast keep noob surfers paying for porn!

[Nautilus]

Megaupload is as good as Rapidshare at answering DMCAs - they do it quickly, within 24 hours max (Rapidshare does not answer within 1 hour btw, unless you e-mailed them 1 hour before they were about to process with the next batch of removals).

Forumophilia is owned by Oron as far as I know, and they went the same outright criminal route as pornbb.org did after Oron takeover, i.e. stop answering DMCAs and even going as far as removing their DMCA page completely.

But Oron answers DMCAs, and they do it surprisingly fast recently - I think after they lost their paypal processing for a couple of weeks in August they reconsidered their DMCA policy, and decided to act pro-actively and remove stuff quickly before angry producers will start calling paypal and raise hell.

[Twoface31]

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[CzechCASH]

thanks for these informations

[Constantine]

Okay,
what legal action could be performed for the person that logged to site, download the content, then share it?

[Nautilus]

Originally Posted by Constantine

Okay,
what legal action could be performed for the person that logged to site, download the content, then share it?

What type of sites do you mean? It is not typical for forum users to both download and then upload the same content to the same site. It is more common for torrent users as most of them continue to seed (i.e. upload) for awhile after their download is finished.

[Constantine]

I am operating with two not big paysites now.
As you know some user accounts could be stolen. Not very big problem, as we usually automatically ban such accounts. But some members, that looks good for a first glance, are downloading photo and video archives then share or distribute them without our permission. Okay, there are techniques that allow us to tag each photo, zip archive, video file, and we at least could figure out who is our happy Robin Hood.
So, my question was: what legal action could be performed to this Robin Hood?



Tagging the content... it is like providing to each customer a personal license.
Another question is: what legal action could be performed for people, who are using illegal
(not licensed to them personally content)?

Is it real to create a precedent?.. Just for example create dozen of torrent, sites, boards filled with links to stolen content. Before downloading... user must confirm: that he want to use illegal content, that he do not want to pay any single cent to content producer, and he, probably will share it... etc.. etc.. etc.
After downloading or uploading (even better) ? he is jailed, as it works as mousetrap.
(I mean,
- his IP and unique data could be added to the blacklist,
- legal actions could be performed, as user said that he is a pirate himself.
- And other illegal distribution channels could be discredited in this way...
(Because any of it could finally appears to be a trap, with unpleasant consequences).

[Constantine]

But... all written above could NOT be an ultimate solution of the problem (IMHO).
Every protection could be ruined, every method has its antipode. As a result of aggressive methods we could get adrenaline addicts, which will stole everything as mad, and porn surfers that will afraid to use even legal sites.

[Lov3_dup]

Originally Posted by Radik

Greetings, so any class actions going on against some of these sites?

You'll be happy to hear that 'megaupload' bought the bullet today, a long over-due shot between the eyes... who's next in their sights i wonder, your right though...i thought the same thing about these boards.

"The Justice Department said that more than 20 search warrants had been executed in nine countries, and that approximately $50m in assets had been seized.

It claimed that the accused had pursued a business model designed to promote the uploading of copyrighted works.

"The conspirators allegedly paid users whom they specifically knew uploaded infringing content and publicised their links to users throughout the world," a statement said.

"By actively supporting the use of third-party linking sites to publicise infringing content, the conspirators did not need to publicise such content on the Megaupload site.

"Instead, the indictment alleges that the conspirators manipulated the perception of content available on their servers by not providing a public search function on the Megaupload site and by not including popular infringing content on the publicly available lists of top content downloaded by its users."

[pussman]

Megaupload and many other file-sharing hosts are down.

[V_RocKs]

don't hate, congratulate!

[bellybuttonlint]

lol
pointless