Advice for Pornstars 101: Don't let your boyfriend, husband, or some "webmaster" build your site!

[xxxjay]

I would just post the text here, but it would take forever to relink...
http://www.xxxjay.com/index.php/2012...-do-your-site/

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

I would just post the text here, but it would take forever to relink...
http://www.xxxjay.com/index.php/2012...-do-your-site/

Jay there's a few typos and omissions on that page. Might want to do a fast proof read. Other than that it looks good.

[Fletch XXX]

hehe nice and so true.

hey jay sent you that email yesterday, jumped through spam arrest just making sure you got it.

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Jay there's a few typos and omissions on that page. Might want to do a fast proof read. Other than that it looks good.

Yeah, I wrote it real fast in a fury of bong glory - if you care to point any out that would be great, once I've re-read my own stuff to many times I con't see the mistakes it just reads like I want to hear it in my head.

Maybe I'm illiterate.

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Good advice.

I've noticed that boyfriends are a huge pain in the ass. Husbands, not so much though, weird...

I've found that as well, but not always true. Boyfriends are usually just clueless and lazy more than husbands. Robbie and Claudia are an exception to this rule - they are great people and work well together. Some of my favorite peeps in the biz.

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Jay there's a few typos and omissions on that page. Might want to do a fast proof read. Other than that it looks good.

Found a few thanks. I need a proof-reader. LOL

[GUNNER]

If I had a dollar for every time I hear a girl on set talk about her failed website... and it's almost always a story about how she worked with a "webmaster" who was going to make them both rich with the infamous 3 step process to fame and success in adult.

1) Buy porn starlet domain name

2) Build shitty tour and members area

3) Cash big checks and buy new cars

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by GUNNER

If I had a dollar for every time I hear a girl on set talk about her failed website... and it's almost always a story about how she worked with a "webmaster" who was going to make them both rich with the infamous 3 step process to fame and success in adult.

1) Buy porn starlet domain name

2) Build shitty tour and members area

3) Cash big checks and buy new cars

Quoted for Truth. One person can do it, but you need a team of people whom all have the proper skill-sets to get a site off the ground.

[madm1k3]

Im amazed that every girl who wants to be in porn doesn't start with her own site. The problem with boyfriends or husbands is they usually have no clue about the business or even web design for that matter. And in a crowded market place if your webmaster is always trying to "catch up" then your going to get buried.

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by madm1k3

Im amazed that every girl who wants to be in porn doesn't start with her own site. The problem with boyfriends or husbands is they usually have no clue about the business or even web design for that matter. And in a crowded market place if your webmaster is always trying to "catch up" then your going to get buried.

Quoted for truth.

[Bugbee]

Originally Posted by gunner

if i had a dollar for every time i hear a girl on set talk about her failed website... And it's almost always a story about how she worked with a "webmaster" who was going to make them both rich with the infamous 3 step process to fame and success in adult.

1) buy porn starlet domain name

2) build shitty tour and members area

3) cash big checks and buy new cars

true true!!

[LeRoy]

Nice post Jay!

Would be cool to have a referral program too or even a finders fee.

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by LeRoy

Nice post Jay!

Would be cool to have a referral program too or even a finders fee.

We have one.

[Waiter]

There's no money in porn ... second by now ... who is responsible for that ??? where is the old good days ?

[Evil Chris]

I have mad 1990s design skillz

[arock10]

Photographers make some pretty terrible pay sites too sometimes

[Tom_PM]

I voted for learn to do it yourself. Even if you go with a reputable company. Learn to do it yourself.

[WarChild]

Sounds like a pretty good deal all things considered. How many of these girls get themselves in to 50/50 partnerships with suitcase pimps that don't know shit? Probably quite a few. With Jay you're going to get the same percentage deal but work with somebody that has a track record for success.

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Sounds like a pretty good deal all things considered. How many of these girls get themselves in to 50/50 partnerships with suitcase pimps that don't know shit? Probably quite a few. With Jay you're going to get the same percentage deal but work with somebody that has a track record for success.

Trust me, that end of it is a PAIN IN THE ASS and yes, is a constant problem.

[Jim_Gunn]

Originally Posted by madm1k3

Im amazed that every girl who wants to be in porn doesn't start with her own site. The problem with boyfriends or husbands is they usually have no clue about the business or even web design for that matter. And in a crowded market place if your webmaster is always trying to "catch up" then your going to get buried.

"You're" going to get buried, not "your". And why would you be amazed by that? Many of the experienced program owners and independant webmasters who have been doing online web work for years can't manage to make money with pay sites in 2012. What the hell kind of chance would you think that an eighteen year old newbie porn chick would have trying to make money with her own site?

[ottopottomouse]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

once I've re-read my own stuff to many times I con't see the mistakes it just reads like I want to hear it in my head.

Maybe I'm illiterate.

Not illiterate, I'm the same with any long piece I write. I know what I meant to say so whatever mistakes there are become invisible.

[porno jew]

read it back to yourself out loud it helps catch mistakes. or read it stoned.

[FlexxAeon]

a little to much salt in that post, pimpin

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

"You're" going to get buried, not "your". And why would you be amazed by that? Many of the experienced program owners and independant webmasters who have been doing online web work for years can't manage to make money with pay sites in 2012. What the hell kind of chance would you think that an eighteen year old newbie porn chick would have trying to make money with her own site?

Preach on brotha'!

[CourtneyR]

good advice for the girls! having a boyfriend build your site is probably not a genius idea.

[LeRoy]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

We have one.

So if we send a girl to you and you make a site for her. you add it to your network, promote her yada yada yada...

Whats the commish or finders fee for bringing you the girl?

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by LeRoy

So if we send a girl to you and you make a site for her. you add it to your network, promote her yada yada yada...

Whats the commish or finders fee for bringing you the girl?

We do best with PORNSTARS - the bigger the better.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by GUNNER

If I had a dollar for every time I hear a girl on set talk about her failed website... and it's almost always a story about how she worked with a "webmaster" who was going to make them both rich with the infamous 3 step process to fame and success in adult.

1) Buy porn starlet domain name

2) Build shitty tour and members area

3) Cash big checks and buy new cars

Yes heard this too many times. Even from other shooters and myself who did "deals" with big talkers. I was scammed a few times by people claiming to be playing above their level of what they could achieve. I know a few shooters who also go shaved rotten. I know of a few instances where I got shaved as well.

Originally Posted by xxxjay

Quoted for Truth. One person can do it, but you need a team of people whom all have the proper skill-sets to get a site off the ground.

Originally Posted by xxxjay

Quoted for Truth. One person can do it, but you need a team of people whom all have the proper skill-sets to get a site off the ground.

There's another way to look at it.

Why don't Pornstarplatinum.com. Just employ the girl and pay her on the day? Put her under contract for the amount they wave in front of her for her to work on a sharing basis. Lay out in the contract what is expected of her and what they will pay her at the end of each shoot, plus a healthy bonus at the end.

Models are for hire. They go to where the money is. If Pornstarplatinum.com. can't afford to compete with other avenues or pay her enough to keep her turning up for the work, how good are they?

If we found a real winner we knew would make us money, we shot here for all the work we needed, paid her at the end of each day and then let the others try to monetise her.

Pornstarplatinum.com. should do the same if they can't afford it, then they shouldn't be offering these deals.

Think outside the box.

[mamaliga]

Sound decent, thanks for sharing with us.
However sexually harassment is part of the business

[Socks]

CCBill only is bad? Seems to have worked pretty good for Met Art, FTV Girls, Femjoy, and the list goes on...

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by Socks

CCBill only is bad? Seems to have worked pretty good for Met Art, FTV Girls, Femjoy, and the list goes on...

Not, I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying it comes with limitations, including how well you can convert.

All of my programs started as CCBill only programs but we had to evolve.

[LeRoy]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

We do best with PORNSTARS - the bigger the better.

So no comish or finders fee?

[signupdamnit]

That's usually good advice but still you are trying to sell them on your services and another piece of advice which also holds true is to be weary of those offering you advice when they are likewise trying to sell you.

[seeandsee]

Always go with a reputable company...

if you don't know what are you doing

[Jacob[Soft]]

Always go with a reputable company...

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by LeRoy

So no comish or finders fee?

Email me [email protected]

[RyuLion]

Always go with a reputable company..

[livexxx]

tell them to do webcam instead, vanity sites are dead

[pornmasta]

pay more, earn less...

[ninavain]

Originally Posted by livexxx

tell them to do webcam instead, vanity sites are dead

i agree vanity sites are dead...and a hot/decent girl can still make a nice 5-figure month stripping and or escorting.. no photos or videos needed. Most chicks are catching on, hence the turn over rate in LA Porn industry. They go there looking for glam and gold..get fucked hard and strong for 90 days then fade away as the next 18 y/o steps off the bus..but now young chicks are hearing that porn isn't all it's cracked up to be..the money ain't all that, especially if you can lapdance in a dark club and give the occasional hj to a old man w/ money...sure beats getting railed by Mandingo in the ass for the entire world to see for less than a couple of grand

[mchacal]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Good advice.

I've noticed that boyfriends are a huge pain in the ass. Husbands, not so much though, weird...

Boyfriends are still obsessed with their gfs while hubbies are already bored of their ladies. That's my theory

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by livexxx

tell them to do webcam instead, vanity sites are dead

Could have fooled me www.pornstarplatinum.com grew by over 200% last year while the rest of the biz shrank to nothing.

You own a cams thing, so I can see how you are biased.

[babydred]

Originally Posted by arock10

Photographers make some pretty terrible pay sites too sometimes

lmao...i see what you did there.

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by ninavain

i agree vanity sites are dead...and a hot/decent girl can still make a nice 5-figure month stripping and or escorting.. no photos or videos needed. Most chicks are catching on, hence the turn over rate in LA Porn industry. They go there looking for glam and gold..get fucked hard and strong for 90 days then fade away as the next 18 y/o steps off the bus..but now young chicks are hearing that porn isn't all it's cracked up to be..the money ain't all that, especially if you can lapdance in a dark club and give the occasional hj to a old man w/ money...sure beats getting railed by Mandingo in the ass for the entire world to see for less than a couple of grand

Typical hooker logic.

Or you could look at it like this. We shoot our content make several updates for one shoot. A lot of times, the gilrs don't shoot for 30 days and they still get handed a big fat check that covers all their bills - FOR DOING NOTHING!

[ninavain]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

Typical hooker logic.

Or you could look at it like this. We shoot our content make several updates for one shoot. A lot of times, the gilrs don't shoot for 30 days and they still get handed a big fat check that covers all their bills - FOR DOING NOTHING!

...bitches don't think about tomorrow's money..

[AaronM]

Jay,

If you are using that site as a sales pitch, you may want to have an editor review it.

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by AaronM

Jay,

If you are using that site as a sales pitch, you may want to have an editor review it.

I wrote it really fast. We have so A-listers coming out in the next few weeks. We don't really need new girls ATM.

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by ninavain

...bitches don't think about tomorrow's money..

Very true.

[Paul Markham]

I still see no one has countered my point about just paying the girl.

The problem is often the money talked about, doesn't match the money paid out. After the girl has done all the work.

[u-Bob]

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