How much did you pay on your engagement ring?

[Sosa]

Just wondering what all you married guys ended up paying your engagement rings for your woman? Been shopping around lately but just curious what others have done.

[Sly]

Uh-oh. Don't do it!

[Snake Doctor]

Buy one on ebay.

You can get a ring on ebay for about 1/3 of what it would cost at the local jewelry store.

[DateDoc]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

Buy one on ebay.

You can get a ring on ebay for about 1/3 of what it would cost at the local jewelry store.

and there is about a 50% chance it may be a fake. NEVER buy jewlery without seeing it first.

[Sosa]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

Buy one on ebay.

You can get a ring on ebay for about 1/3 of what it would cost at the local jewelry store.

Won't be buying something without actually seeing it first. Just looking around and getting prices right now.

[Rob]

Price or Value? Price is around $3000 - $5000. Value is the REST OF YOUR LIFE!!!

Think this one through. Think in halves. Is half of what you got worth it?

[Sosa]

Originally Posted by Sly

Uh-oh. Don't do it!

lol, I'm sure I'll hear that a few more times in this thread.

[Illicit]

I wouldnt spend more than $300

She will probably cheat on you with guys that have bigger cocks

[aflex]

Sosa, please read up about the 4C's of Diamonds. DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING BELOW H COLOR, VS QUALITY!!!!!!!!!!

[aflex]

The average ring in the Tri-State area (NY-NJ-CT) is $6-9,000. I believe the Midwest is $1500-3500.

[Rob]

[Sosa]

aflex thanks for all the info! I found one I kinda liked and that she would like I think that was a H. But I know nothing about all the grades and what to lookfor etc.

[Snake Doctor]

Originally Posted by BusterPorn

and there is about a 50% chance it may be a fake. NEVER buy jewlery without seeing it first.

Bullshit.....don't speak about things you have no knowledge of.

This is very simple. You pay for the ring through esrow.com
It gets shipped to you and you take it to a jeweler for appraisal. If the appraisal is in the ballpark of what the jeweler on ebay said it would be, you have escrow.com release the funds and you have a deal.

If it turns out to be fake or worth much less than what you thought, you return it to the seller and escrow.com returns your money to you.

Or you can get ass raped by the local zales store and pay 3 times as much, but at least you'll get to see it first.
(And if you see it how are YOU going to know it's real and that the color/cut/clarity are what the store is telling you it is?)

[Sosa]

Originally Posted by HighOnAcid

LOL her first ring was out of a quarter machine as a joke

[DateDoc]

http://shopping.yahoo.com/b:Education:95718497

[GTS Mark]

Get her a nice one Sosa, don't be a cheap ass I know you can afford it

DH

[Snake Doctor]

Originally Posted by aflex

Sosa, please read up about the 4C's of Diamonds. DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING BELOW H COLOR, VS QUALITY!!!!!!!!!!

There's nothing wrong with an SI1 or SI2 ring, especially if he doesn't have a big wad of cash to blow on the ring. (And also if the flaws are on the bottom of the stone where they won't be noticed anyways)

[Sosa]

Originally Posted by DrinkingHard

Get her a nice one Sosa, don't be a cheap ass I know you can afford it

DH

LOL I don't wanna be cheap, but gotta make a smart money decision also You know how that stuff works.

[JulianSosa]

Congrats

[DateDoc]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

Bullshit.....don't speak about things you have no knowledge of.

This is very simple. You pay for the ring through esrow.com
It gets shipped to you and you take it to a jeweler for appraisal. If the appraisal is in the ballpark of what the jeweler on ebay said it would be, you have escrow.com release the funds and you have a deal.

If it turns out to be fake or worth much less than what you thought, you return it to the seller and escrow.com returns your money to you.

Or you can get ass raped by the local zales store and pay 3 times as much, but at least you'll get to see it first.
(And if you see it how are YOU going to know it's real and that the color/cut/clarity are what the store is telling you it is?)

Ah, all knowing one! How do you know what I do and do not know about? Lets look at this for example. You buy a ring from me on eBay. I ship it to you. You do not like it and tell escrow.com you are returning it. I recieve the ring back and notify escrow.com that this is not the ring I had shipped to you and you are trying to rip me off. Now we have an escrow.com dispute which can take forever to resolve. This is also one of the reasons that a lot of sellers will not deal with escrow.com.

[DateDoc]

Originally Posted by Sosa

LOL I don't wanna be cheap, but gotta make a smart money decision also You know how that stuff works.

Just add it in the prenup that if you slit up you get the ring back.

[Snake Doctor]

Originally Posted by BusterPorn

Ah, all knowing one! How do you know what I do and do not know about? Lets look at this for example. You buy a ring from me on eBay. I ship it to you. You do not like it and tell escrow.com you are returning it. I recieve the ring back and notify escrow.com that this is not the ring I had shipped to you and you are trying to rip me off. Now we have an escrow.com dispute which can take forever to resolve. This is also one of the reasons that a lot of sellers will not deal with escrow.com.

Ok well first of all, in your original post you said never buy jewelry without seeing it first........now you're talking about problems with escrow.com.....what does that have to do with seeing the jewelry first??

If the seller won't use escrow.com then you find another seller, there are plenty of them on ebay. Also if you pay using paypal you have plenty of options there as well.
Alot of the jewelry guys selling on ebay are power sellers, they do it for a living......read the remarks from the hundreds of people that have bought from them before you decide who to buy from. It's just like doing research for any other type of purchase.....but you'll end up paying about 1/3 of the jewelry store price for the exact same diamond by buying it off of ebay.

[Sosa]

thanks for the replies so far. Going to head to bed and will check the thread in the morning.

[bluedevil]

Originally Posted by DrinkingHard

Get her a nice one Sosa, don't be a cheap ass I know you can afford it

DH

i agree, but above all dont do it

[mal]

www.nomarriage.com

[aflex]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

There's nothing wrong with an SI1 or SI2 ring, especially if he doesn't have a big wad of cash to blow on the ring. (And also if the flaws are on the bottom of the stone where they won't be noticed anyways)

lol, thanks for your advice. I was an apprentice for a diamond dealer for 3 years.Your "bottom of stone" theory is completely false. Research how a diamond is cut to bring out the most "fire" or sparkle. Anything near the "bottom of the stone" would totally fuck that theory up.

SI-I are shit.

[DateDoc]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

Ok well first of all, in your original post you said never buy jewelry without seeing it first........now you're talking about problems with escrow.com.....what does that have to do with seeing the jewelry first??

If the seller won't use escrow.com then you find another seller, there are plenty of them on ebay. Also if you pay using paypal you have plenty of options there as well.
Alot of the jewelry guys selling on ebay are power sellers, they do it for a living......read the remarks from the hundreds of people that have bought from them before you decide who to buy from. It's just like doing research for any other type of purchase.....but you'll end up paying about 1/3 of the jewelry store price for the exact same diamond by buying it off of ebay.

Diamong engagement rings on eBay 15,748. Search eBay for Diamond engagement rings escrow.com and there are 69 listings and I'm sure a few of those say they are not taking escrow.com.

IF PayPal were to grant you protection under their buyer protection plan your claim is limited to $1000.00.

It is just my opinion but buying something as important as a diamond engagement ring is nt something I would do through eBay, PayPal or escrow.com. Your best bet is to find a jeweler you can trust and work out a deal with him/her.

[aflex]

Sosa, also try to stay with a dealer that can provide a GIA certificate with the diamond you buy. This ensures the stones quality. They grade accurately.

If they have any other kind of certificates, EGL or anything else, assume that the grading is "rounded up". For example, an actual H color stone being graded as a G.

[gecko]

Originally Posted by HighOnAcid

Price or Value? Price is around $3000 - $5000. Value is the REST OF YOUR LIFE!!!

Think this one through. Think in halves. Is half of what you got worth it?

Listen to the man

[aflex]

Buying an engagement ring off of ebay is silly (unless they are a reputable jeweler and provide GIA certs).

I strongly believe in private jewelers to ensure quality and personal attention to your large purchase.

[Rochard]

I think the right price is three month's of your current salary, isn't it?

I got lucky. Many many years ago when I was a child, one of my father's employees invested a ton of money into a ring for some chick. The broke up before he was able to give her the ring, and he ended up selling it to my father for a great price. My father gave it to my mother, although she never wore it being as it was a wedding ring. It has a huge diamond, surrounded by more diamonds, and is made of white gold. We had it appriased a few years ago and was told it's worth $15k.

I paid $400 for it and my wife loves it.

[DateDoc]

Originally Posted by RocHard

I think the right price is three month's of your current salary, isn't it?

I got lucky. Many many years ago when I was a child, one of my father's employees invested a ton of money into a ring for some chick. The broke up before he was able to give her the ring, and he ended up selling it to my father for a great price. My father gave it to my mother, although she never wore it being as it was a wedding ring. It has a huge diamond, surrounded by more diamonds, and is made of white gold. We had it appriased a few years ago and was told it's worth $15k.

I paid $400 for it and my wife loves it.

we all need a deal like that.

[aflex]

Originally Posted by RocHard

I think the right price is three month's of your current salary, isn't it?

I got lucky. Many many years ago when I was a child, one of my father's employees invested a ton of money into a ring for some chick. The broke up before he was able to give her the ring, and he ended up selling it to my father for a great price. My father gave it to my mother, although she never wore it being as it was a wedding ring. It has a huge diamond, surrounded by more diamonds, and is made of white gold. We had it appriased a few years ago and was told it's worth $15k.

I paid $400 for it and my wife loves it.

Thats awesome! Hell of a steal you had. I'd guess that it is an "Old Miner" cut stone.. You could probably shave off a few points and have it re-cut as an Ideal or Russian cut to bring out more sparkle.

[Vitasoy]

Originally Posted by RocHard

I think the right price is three month's of your current salary, isn't it?

I got lucky. Many many years ago when I was a child, one of my father's employees invested a ton of money into a ring for some chick. The broke up before he was able to give her the ring, and he ended up selling it to my father for a great price. My father gave it to my mother, although she never wore it being as it was a wedding ring. It has a huge diamond, surrounded by more diamonds, and is made of white gold. We had it appriased a few years ago and was told it's worth $15k.

I paid $400 for it and my wife loves it.

Very nice story, you lucked out

[Alien Queue]

I paid $6700 for my wife's ring...

[swedguy]

~$2k at a Korean guy in the jewelry district, LA.

[CC]

My ring cost approx. $10,000 but is worth much more now. Some EXCELLENT stores for high quality diamonds: White Flash, Excel Diamonds (SuperbCert), Good Old Gold. Do NOT buy from a mall jeweler or at Ebay (unless the diamond has a GIA or AGS cert AND a good return policy).

[Matt_WildCash]

Originally Posted by BusterPorn

and there is about a 50% chance it may be a fake. NEVER buy jewlery without seeing it first.

WRONG. Its easy to spot the fakes. A LOT of good ebay shops are run by New york and other good jewelery shops.

I got married in January. I paid US$10,000 for a Tiffancy classic diamond ring and we got it here and had it valued at US$18,000 at a top jewelery store here (with certificate). And her wedding ring cost me US$3000 and was valued at US$6000 here. And my ring cost me US$3000 and was valued at US$5000.

Bought off Ebay from Newyork store (with very classy website). Called them and confirmed. Legit company and got the rings shipped to Australia.

Saved myself $10,000's.

Matt

[CC]

Originally Posted by aflex

lol, thanks for your advice. I was an apprentice for a diamond dealer for 3 years.Your "bottom of stone" theory is completely false. Research how a diamond is cut to bring out the most "fire" or sparkle. Anything near the "bottom of the stone" would totally fuck that theory up.

SI-I are shit.

Oh lord, you are quite misguided and you are doing a disservice to anyone looking to buy a diamond....it depends ENTIRELY on the stone. There could be a SI2 eye-clean stone that is beautifully cut and looks amazing and there could also be a flawless stone that has a horrible cut and looks like a piece of frozen spit. Which stone should you get in that case?? The SI! Also, many I color stones face up beautifully...again, CUT IS KING. You must have worked at a mall jeweler (or something similar), because you are extremely misguided.

[DateDoc]

Originally Posted by Matt_WC

WRONG. Its easy to spot the fakes. A LOT of good ebay shops are run by New york and other good jewelery shops.

I got married in January. I paid US$10,000 for a Tiffancy classic diamond ring and we got it here and had it valued at US$18,000 at a top jewelery store here (with certificate). And her wedding ring cost me US$3000 and was valued at US$6000 here. And my ring cost me US$3000 and was valued at US$5000.

Bought off Ebay from Newyork store (with very classy website). Called them and confirmed. Legit company and got the rings shipped to Australia.

Saved myself $10,000's.

Matt

I'm glad it worked out for you mate. I'm just telling it as I would to a friend that asked my opinion.

[jf2404]

About $2,600, and unfortunatley her Birthstone is Diamond, so her fingers are worth about $15,000 so far

[Maureenoz]

We got mine in Hong Kong. Selected the stone and had the ring made in 3 days. Went back to Australia and had it appraised at a little more than we paid for it so I was happy.

As far as what you pay for the ring - it all depends on how what you can afford and what her expectations are. He had a fat wallet filled with half my money and I had high expectations.

If you have a lot of money and you get her a little ring, she might wonder how important she is in your life.

Have you asked her what she wants?

[Jace]

i got my wifes for $1400

then later we found out from her mom that one of the baggets (sp?) that lined the sides of the ring was some sort of rare russian diamond that had a value alone of $1500....

the ring is platinum, so it won't depreciate much in value, which is good

we plan on eventually getting our rings tattooed on our fingers...something we have wanted to do for a while

[notjoe]

I just finished spending about 5500 (CAD) on my GFs ring. The diamond alone was 4k and was set into a ring that has 3 diamonds on either side of it to keep it company

Princess cut
VVS2
Very Good Cut
E colour
Excellent Polish

My advice is never buy the stone without a GIA cert to go along with it. When you have it set never let the stone out of your sight.

[aflex]

Originally Posted by CC

Oh lord, you are quite misguided and you are doing a disservice to anyone looking to buy a diamond....it depends ENTIRELY on the stone. There could be a SI2 eye-clean stone that is beautifully cut and looks amazing and there could also be a flawless stone that has a horrible cut and looks like a piece of frozen spit. Which stone should you get in that case?? The SI! Also, many I color stones face up beautifully...again, CUT IS KING. You must have worked at a mall jeweler (or something similar), because you are extremely misguided.

rofl. gfy is full of know it alls. SI2 eye clean? are you a fucking moron? you're whole post is based on the idea that there is no carbon in the stone for it to be "eye clean", which leaves there to be feathers, cracks, and other impurities inside the stone.

I cannot believe there are morons telling people SI2-I color stones are OK. Then you have the balls to say I worked for a mall jeweler? If I worked for a mall jeweler, wouldnt I say SI2-I are good? You make no fucking sense.

I worked for a private jeweler that specialized in D-G color, VS quality stones. Russian/Ideal cut.

Cut is very important, but also is the actual quality of the stone. A stone can be recut at anytime.

Telling people that SI2-I clairty stones are just as good as quality stones is complete horse shit. You will not find any jeweler lining up to purchase that stone back after it has been sold.

[aflex]

Originally Posted by CC

Oh lord, you are quite misguided and you are doing a disservice to anyone looking to buy a diamond....it depends ENTIRELY on the stone. There could be a SI2 eye-clean stone that is beautifully cut and looks amazing and there could also be a flawless stone that has a horrible cut and looks like a piece of frozen spit. Which stone should you get in that case?? The SI! Also, many I color stones face up beautifully...again, CUT IS KING. You must have worked at a mall jeweler (or something similar), because you are extremely misguided.

Pull out a Rapaport price guide and see if there is a "special column" for SI2-I clarity stones that have PERFECT cuts as you detail. See if they even compare to VS clarity stones.

Put that I color stone you seem to think is beautiful in a sugar bowl with an F color stone.. shake it up, and see which stone you find first. I guarantee it will be the I color. You know exactly why, it's that that yellow tint.

[Marcus Aurelius]

I payed $4800.00 for my wifes engagement ring. but that was 11 years ago.

[notjoe]

Originally Posted by aflex

rofl. gfy is full of know it alls. SI2 eye clean? are you a fucking moron? you're whole post is based on the idea that there is no carbon in the stone for it to be "eye clean", which leaves there to be feathers, cracks, and other impurities inside the stone.

I cannot believe there are morons telling people SI2-I color stones are OK. Then you have the balls to say I worked for a mall jeweler? If I worked for a mall jeweler, wouldnt I say SI2-I are good? You make no fucking sense.

I worked for a private jeweler that specialized in D-G color, VS quality stones. Russian/Ideal cut.

Cut is very important, but also is the actual quality of the stone. A stone can be recut at anytime.

Telling people that SI2-I clairty stones are just as good as quality stones is complete horse shit. You will not find any jeweler lining up to purchase that stone back after it has been sold.

I agree, SI is shit but from what i was told when shopping at high-end stores is that most people tend to buy the SI stones. I think most chicks rather go bigger than get a quality stone (keeping in mind what the guy can afford). Colour isnt as important either if it is going to be set on yellow gold either since the diamond would pick the colour up.

I'm far from an expect its just that this info is still fresh in my mind

[kenny]

There are guys sitting around with enough diamonds to cover driveways. Huge piles of diamonds that just sit around collecting dust.

They let small amounts go public so you pay a ridiculous amount of money for them.

It's called a monopoly

[aflex]

Originally Posted by notjoe

I agree, SI is shit but from what i was told when shopping at high-end stores is that most people tend to buy the SI stones. I think most chicks rather go bigger than get a quality stone (keeping in mind what the guy can afford). Colour isnt as important either if it is going to be set on yellow gold either since the diamond would pick the colour up.

I'm far from an expect its just that this info is still fresh in my mind

you are exactly right.

CC seems to have caught feelings about my post. My guess is he a proud owner of an I color SI2 stone that probably has nice carat weight. This is a case of going for size over quality.