Virtual ram drive for paging file with SSD - GoFuckYourself.com

MrMaxwell · 03-20-2012, 01:31 PM

Not too worried about speed, but I thought maybe my SSD will last longer if I page to a virtual drive? The thing is, I have 16gb of memory.. and supposedly if the paging file is not a little larger than the actual ram, that's not good?

I try to run without a paging file and windows tells me to fuck myself.. it puts one on there anyway

AdultEUhost · 03-20-2012, 01:55 PM

Underpartition your SSD so it wears longer

So if your SSD is 120Gb, create a partition of let's say 100Gb

Mr Pheer · 03-20-2012, 02:05 PM

Do they not last long?

ruff · 03-20-2012, 04:53 PM

If you're using Win 7, leave the paging file alone. Especially with an SSD.

AdultEUhost · 03-20-2012, 05:02 PM

If it's a laptop, you should disable hibernate and just shutdown as it will save your memory to a file on every shutdown to save your current session

Brent 3dSexCash · 03-20-2012, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Do they not last long?

They have a limited lifespan when it comes to writing to the drive. I guess the memory cells can only handle being written over a certain amount of times -- but it's in the millions (i forget the exact number).

THE NICE THING ABOUT SSDS is....even if your drive fails (i.e. you've killed it by writing too many times), your machine will still boot, and you can still get all the data off it. It has an unlimited 'read' life cycle.

Also never, ever, ever defragment an SSD. ever.

bronco67 · 03-20-2012, 06:19 PM

Page files are small reads and writes...and SSd's are good at that. So, there you go.

EddyTheDog · 03-20-2012, 06:21 PM

What speed do you get from an SSD?

raymor · 03-20-2012, 06:23 PM

16 GB = little to no paging = no worries

EddyTheDog · 03-20-2012, 06:28 PM

I havnt got a clue really - I am looking at SSD for my next destop though.

Just wondering if a USB 3 flash drive would work for paging?

femdomdestiny · 03-20-2012, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

What speed do you get from an SSD?

OCZ Vertex 3 - Max Read: up to 550MB/s - Write: 500MB/s. Works fine here.

2MuchMark · 03-20-2012, 07:52 PM

SSD drives have no moving parts, and it doesn't matter how much you use it or how you partition it. It will last as long as any other electronic component, and much longer than hard drives.

rowan · 03-20-2012, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Brent 3dSexCash

THE NICE THING ABOUT SSDS is....even if your drive fails (i.e. you've killed it by writing too many times), your machine will still boot, and you can still get all the data off it. It has an unlimited 'read' life cycle.

This would probably only be relevant with that little 8GB drive that you paid $1000 for in 2004... with modern SSDs it's unlikely that typical use would ever wear out the cells.

SSDs as a whole are still pretty flaky. A current drive is more likely to just die completely than go "read only" because you wrote to it too many times.

rowan · 03-21-2012, 12:00 AM

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SSD drives have no moving parts, and it doesn't matter how much you use it or how you partition it. It will last as long as any other electronic component, and much longer than hard drives.

The last bit is also something I'd dispute... I think it was SSDs with early Sandforce controllers that routinely committed suicide, they just stopped working without warning.

With block deduplication, compression, virtual to logical sector mapping... data recovery is a hell of a lot more complicated with SSD.

So whatever you're using, you still need to back up.

03-20-2012, 01:31 PM	#1
MrMaxwell Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10,057	Virtual ram drive for paging file with SSD Not too worried about speed, but I thought maybe my SSD will last longer if I page to a virtual drive? The thing is, I have 16gb of memory.. and supposedly if the paging file is not a little larger than the actual ram, that's not good? I try to run without a paging file and windows tells me to fuck myself.. it puts one on there anyway

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