Joshua G

when i stick my head out the window & the temp is 30 degrees above normal, i know exactly why no sales are coming out of the tri state area.

bean-aid

I'm starting to question the motives of the OP.

The reason I said check htpasswd file is that I have had that file go to 644 for no explained reason. When that happened ccbill sales came to a hault. I've actually had a cron installed to check that file 1 time every minute to make sure it is set to 666.

I also asked if he tried to signup to his own site and no answer.

Either he has me on ignore for some reason or, imo, he has another agenda. Not posting the site(s) and claiming sales totally stopped is a red flag in my book.

SwirlsGirl

Sales are okay right now, I suppose they could be worse, or could be better for some, but like you mentioned if its 85 degrees outside and its practically still winter time it could cause some to experience what many have always referred to as the "summer slowdown" except the summer slow down does not normally hit until june

On the bright side if the temperature trend continues this way then you can be assured many will be staying indoors all summer and that could defeat the usual summer slowdown for some...hypothetically of course

Captain Kawaii

We recently changed our account at ccbill to activate account grouping. We added a new site 2 weeks ago and plan to add more. CCBill admin told us we would have to have affiliates sign up all over again. As you can imagine 150 affiliates were less than happy. However, we now see sales from old system and new system accounts. Meaning sales from affils who signed up all over again and from affils who did not. I guess its good...at least I hope it is.

Have had a ticket into ccbill through tier2 for two weeks now. I am told to expect an answer by end of this week, I presume tomorrow.

Something is up. Our sales were rocketing before but not in March...

Any detectives familiar with how to detect malware on servers?

Or is the Visa/MC lawsuit already affecting porn peeps?

pornmasta

this one ?
http://www.creditcards.org/article/m...-lawsuit-.html

I pretty sure that there is also a problem with visa (that's probably why ccbill declines so much transactions)

bean-aid

?? You do not need another *account* to enable account grouping. That is an option to set on your account. Not sure what you were told. Maybe you have certain levels of *payout* percentages to affiliates and you do not want them to change? That is one problem with ccbill... if you enable account grouping you cannot change the affiliate payout per sub-account. That is an issue... rather large one.

CCBill needs to lighten up on the scrub... for sure. All this fraud detection is interfering with legit sales...

back to OP though... I stick by my previous post. How about a reply?

astronaut x

jesus fucking christ.... how dare I leave my fucking computer for a few hours.

Not posting my sites and claiming no sales, is me not fucking telling you what my sites are and that I have had no sales.

You were wrong about me ignoring you, so maybe, just maybe, you are wrong about the red flag? Fuck.

Are you having problems with no sales using CCBill? If not, then this thread doesn't concern you. Get the fuck out of here and go be a dick in another thread.

Im so sick and fucking tired of fucking assholes who think everyone owes them something.

If you feel like your just trying to help, well I appreciate it, but stop being a fucking asshole and thinking there is more to the story. I actually fucking like a few people Ive met from CCBill, so Im not trying to fucking troll and hurt their business. If you read the fucking thread you would see that.

As far as my password file, it shows the mark of the beast.

And to answer your other question..... because Im not a fucking cunt... yes, I did sign up to one of my own sites and the transaction went through. So in your fucking book, that must mean my sites are shit. In your book, it must mean "problem solved"

You should really get another book.

Bottom line, Im frustrated like a motherfucker. Im pulling my fucking hair out. I pay money for hosting, I pay money for visa. I put a lot of hard work and effort into my sites and to see sales come to a sudden stop is not something you take lightly.

This is supposed to be a webmaster community. But is it really? Do you really have to second guess EVERY motherfucking post someone makes?

Maybe this thread is beneficial for someone else that is having the same problem? How in the fuck do you or I know unless someone makes a fucking thread like this?

Captain Kawaii

Thanks for the clarification... I get many stories from many people over there. its frustrating.

Can you send me a mail beaner, please about the cgi bin thing you talked about 644 to 666? I need to check our servers...webgeisha at goldengeisha dot com
thanks a lot.

Captain Kawaii

i think you are correct...theres a great thread about it over at helmy's board.

astronaut x

by the way, what are your sites? I notice you don't have them in your sig either.

Not that I really care, Im just trying to make a point.

bean-aid

Thank you. The reason I thought you were ignoring my questions is because you were ignoring my questions and responding to other posts eluding to much *deeper* meanings.

So you have no problems with signups, *on your end*, yet signups came to a halt.

This is what I suggest... 100% of **1million = $0. 50% of $$actual dollars = $$$$

Do you see what I'm suggesting? Sometimes it takes another source to make things happen.

SwirlsGirl

Hey Astronut, one can read your post and definitely absorb the frustration you are feeling.

When you put the work into your craft, you expect equal results and it can be beyond frustrating when you have done all of your own hard work and still come up short.

I can assure you that this place is still a webmaster community even if it has been over run by asshats, fraudsters,trolls,cheats still don't be discouraged there are goods resourceful people here who can help and will help.

Beaner is definitely one who is worthy of my respect as are several others. I can also suggest that you take some time and check out sliiing http://sliiing.com

With the frustrations you are having I can almost guarantee the gentlemen at sliiing can help ease some of your frustrations regarding what you are experiencing

Good luck and keep us posted

astronaut x

Wow, you see... You got it all figured it out.

Vjo

As an affil I gave up on CCbill about a year ago. No offense but if all I had to promote was CCBill I would be long out of biz.

So those who say they only trust CCBill.. I dont agree.

These were my BEST progs since promoting CCBill since what 1999.. (progs that payed as well as ND, Top Bucks, Scorecash ect in their prime.

in order, best ever on top:

- Porn Mega Bucks (early days, sites are way outdated now)
- Online Booty Call (recurred forever and converted like nuts, gone to Pepperjam and pay only $25 pps which killed them for an affil)
- See My Bucks (prob the best prog lately)
- Blue Pixels Profits (nice prog for a while)
- FTV Cash (still pretty good prog I hear)

So there were some REAL good CCBill progs as shown above but a LOT of non converters too.

And in fairness a ton I never tried. Just like many of you never tried Online Booty Call, there are always diamonds in the rough.

bean-aid

send me an email any time. mjmj 00 at the aol

What I found was permission settings got changed on that file, 3 times I found it. I have no idea why... could be just the anomoly of having a server, could be sentry, could be a server transfer (unlikely since I found it 3 times)....

But just contact ccbill if you don't know where your htpasswd file is located and make sure your permissions are set correctly. I first found this issue back in 2008 so it is not new.

astronaut x

Even someone being an asshole about some particular reason can be a resource. I am very respectful to those who "offer help". Beaner tried to call me out for having a hidden agenda.

My agenda is to see if other people are experiencing the same results I am getting right now.

Vjo

Anyhow best luck to the OP. Shit crashing and burning (sales stopping) is everyone's nightmare so hope they pick up.

The one good thing about CCBill is they give long term honest recurs which over time usually do well so I havnt really given up on them just havnt found any super good sites to promote.

Off porn stuff does well like Online BC and also Utherverse did GREAT when they were with CCBill then tanked when they went on their own (altho some still did ok after).

So I think as Frank said maybe it is more.. someone has got a better product and taking your sale rather than CCBill being at fault. Maybe.

bean-aid

My agenda is to help you out and get you back on your feet. There is a million and 1 reasons why you may be experiencing no sales. I started with the most basic.

If you want to hop on board... let me know. I can help you out.

tonyparra

astronaut has some of the best sites in his niche hard to believe no sales

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astronaut x

Maybe so.

However, I have been at this a long time. I started out as an affiliate back in 96. When you are making sales on a consistent basis and still maintain decent traffic sources, and then all of the sudden, come to a 100% stop for an extended period of time, you might tend to ask others if they are getting the same results as well.

That's what this thread is all about. I just want to know, if anyone else has experienced a complete shutdown in sales.

I see some negative feedback from people that promoted ccbill programs, but I want to hear from people who run ccbill affiliate programs.

bean-aid

here it is...

you have been given every opportunity to divulge your sites.

This is what I have noticed with ccbill.. https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1062100

Sara who responded earlier is a person I helped out/ (am helping out) right now. From starting from scratch to making a living.

Do you want my help or is your techniques better?

BFT3K

Can't we all just play the accordion, eat a sandwich, and get along?

signupdamnit

The beginning and middle of this month have been good actually. But all this means is that I might as well sell off all my traffic for the rest of the month because I am going to be converting at 1:20,000 until then. That's the way it always is with CCBill.

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tonyparra

beaner knows his shit astronaut i would let him have a look, you have too much traffic to get zero sales

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astronaut x

I mentioned this in another thread, but it seems fitting it should also be mentioned here.... Feb 13th was the day they implemented the phone verification process. Ironically, that is the day my sales died.

pornmasta

this week is really bad (ratio 1/7000)
The last week was good (ratio 1/1350, with 15 sales)

Yeah, everything is fine... money is in motion... i know i know
I know CCBill, everything works like it should.... bla bla bla

Captain Kawaii

Hey... Just saw this. Thank you very much. I will send you an email. I believe we can check the file... funny, today got a "barrage" of signups and denials...

MrDeiz

got 2 rebills for today only ((
referral earnings are still ok

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MrDeiz

still no good: 2 sales, 2 rebills, 3 refunds -$9 in total
fuck CCbill



$9.00
1

$9.48
1

$0.00
0

$15.34
2

-$42.65
3

$0.00
0

$0.00
0

-$8.83
7

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1:136.5

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1:56.5

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Dirty F

Wait, don't tell me this is all you're making from your shit you spam here on gfy every fucking day?

anexsia

Finally getting CCBill sales this month, got 3 today which is good for me

MrDeiz

you've never been bright. always open your fucking mouth before you think

i do have some other sites than signbucks and my sales are bigger than referral earnings.

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2MuchMark

It's not CCBill's sales that are drying up, it is YOUR sales that are drying up.

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Probono

We use only ccbill and have for almost six years, before that we had our own gateway and account. Sales have slowly eroded since 2001, regardless of processor. It is a different market than we saw in 1996 when we started in this business. Do not blame the processor for decreased sales. Ccbill has been good for us we eliminated a lot of overhead when we moved to them and I do not regret the decision.

pornmasta

yes, but no...
This is a global evolution, but this evolution is not steady...
If in a week my ratio is 1/1350 and a week later it is 1/7000, there is a problem for me.
But this ratio was perhaps 1/350 in 2001...
That's something else.

jimmycooper

My gods there are some really stupid people on here. Nobody is comparing 2012 to 1996. They are comparing March 2012 CCBILL to March 2012 Epoch, et al.

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Supz

looked like you were just putting people down, not knowing any ones background and that you were stating fact. Not looking for a discussion, and what you said is pretty foolish. Its pretty common knowledge that if you have 3-4 processors cascading, you have a better chance for a signup then you do through CCbills scrubbing. And when people who own programs that process through CCBill and say that there Epoch cascade is going above and beyond then what there ccbill is doing. That would lead people to believe there is some kind of issue, why is Epoch accepting the charge, but not CCBill?

Or see this thead
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1054587

astronaut x

wow mark, you think?

Is there anything else that Captain Obvious would like to mention? I certainly wish you many more prosperous years to come.

Btw, I got more denials in the mail today. yay!!!

Hmmm..... why do some of my expiration notices say the customers purchased $49.95 memberships, when i don't even offer that?

Dirty F

While you are known around here as a real Einstein.

SwirlsGirl

As MC hammer once said," sometimes you need to pray.... to get an approval today"

pornmasta

SwirlsGirl

ouch....LOL

BNMedia

Had a quiet few days with CCBill sales here but I think it's just the way the current climate is. I'm running an experiment and have set Verotel as my primary processor for type in traffic. Found that I can cascade with Nats to have all CCBill affiliate traffic go to the CCBill join page and all type in traffic to go to any biller of my choosing and cascade appropriately.
Had a slow trickle of sales with Verotel today and a few CCBill rebills so all isn't too bad.

digitaldivas

kinda the same here too. I just did a pretty large ad campaign for one of my sites and no ccbill sales to that one since last wed.

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topwebmodels_chris

Well, if everything is doing well (as far as sales) and all of a sudden, theres a huge drop, (and you have not changed a thing) than I would assume the billing company may have changed something or maybe their join page was not working at some point.?? However, I have had great sales (in the past) and then one month it just flopped too. And I checked with both billing companies and all was up to par on their end... Some times there may not be a reason for sales declining and join ratios rising...

12clicks

bean-aid

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/nastypinkteens.com#
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/12xgay.com#
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/12xtranny.com#

etc.

signupdamnit

You would think after all these complaints CCbill would take a second look at some of their scrub factors and see if something is a bit off. All it takes is something stupid such as requiring the zip code to *exactly* match a GeoIP database versus allowing a bit leeway. Everyone makes mistakes. CCBill is such a professional company I am surprised the upper level management does not take these complaints more seriously. People bitch about the admin system but it mostly works fine. This on the other hand directly effects sales.

Even as an affiliate the ups and downs (which almost always come in the same pattern) are very frustrating. I've been a huge fan of CCBill in the past but I can't help but think of all the money I am losing and in these times you can't afford to throw money away like this.

signupdamnit

I always see these crazy patterns. Divide the month into days 1-10 (beginning), 11 - 20 (middle), 21-31 (last). If I have a good beginning it's a good bet that the last part of the month is going to be really bad. If I have a bad beginning then either the middle or the last part will be good. It's normal to see these ups and downs to some degree but not in such a consistent pattern. Somehow it almost always seems to even out on a monthly basis.