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Old 03-27-2012, 06:04 PM   #1
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Do you think the USA has become LESS or MORE racist since Obama became president?

Or has it stayed the same?
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Old 03-27-2012, 06:19 PM   #2
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I think it has actually increased some.
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Old 03-27-2012, 06:22 PM   #3
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way more ... I witnessed it in the past 5 weeks here in Florida
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Old 03-27-2012, 06:34 PM   #4
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After having been to many places around the world I can say that while the US has its problems, it's one of the least racist countries on Earth as a whole.
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Old 03-27-2012, 06:35 PM   #5
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It's always existed, and will continue to exist.

The only difference is that more people are obvious and vocal about it.

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Old 03-27-2012, 06:41 PM   #6
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whatever option makes obama look the worst.
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Old 03-27-2012, 06:56 PM   #7
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after having been to many places around the world i can say that while the us has its problems, it's one of the least racist countries on earth as a whole.
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Old 03-27-2012, 06:57 PM   #8
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After having been to many places around the world I can say that while the US has its problems, it's one of the least racist countries on Earth as a whole.
Wow! Go in the deep south boy!

I used to have a Tennessee GF, and her whole family were mega racists, and I witnessed many times her making fun of black people or tell them she would kick their asses.....while wearing a Glock on her belt....

Blacks in Tennessee and Louisiana were very friendly towards me when they would hear my accent.......knowing I was not a redneck.......

Sad but true!
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Old 03-27-2012, 07:09 PM   #9
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Wow! Go in the deep south boy!

I used to have a Tennessee GF, and her whole family were mega racists, and I witnessed many times her making fun of black people or tell them she would kick their asses.....while wearing a Glock on her belt....

Blacks in Tennessee and Louisiana were very friendly towards me when they would hear my accent.......knowing I was not a redneck.......

Sad but true!
Try renting an apartment anywhere in Japan if you're not Japanese.
I wasn't trying to say there isn't racism in the US but it's certainly not any worse than most other places.

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Old 03-27-2012, 07:59 PM   #10
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Any Nation that elects a black man to the highest office in the land, and has a black man as Attorney General is NOT inherently racist.

IT'S ALL COMPLETE MEDIA MANIPULATION.

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Old 03-27-2012, 08:06 PM   #11
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Racism is mostly made up by the media and those in power to divide and conquer
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Old 03-27-2012, 08:30 PM   #12
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Old 03-27-2012, 08:36 PM   #13
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IT'S ALL COMPLETE MEDIA MANIPULATION.
The media should be held responsible for innocent deaths as a result.
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Old 03-27-2012, 08:36 PM   #14
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its about the same, but the right wingers bitch and whine about it a lot more.

"It's all reverse racism" - "Ima gonna shoot that hahahahahaha when he comes for my gun" blah blah blah - endless whining and crying. bunch of fucking pussies, all talk and no action.
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Old 03-27-2012, 08:46 PM   #15
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I'm not sure about racism, but I've definitely been peeing a lot more since Obama has become president.

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Old 03-27-2012, 08:59 PM   #16
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I can only speak about my part of the country and what I see on the web and in the media. From my perspective, until 2008 we always elected a candidate for president. In 2008, we elected a black man for president. Nobody called him the tall guy, or the good looking guy, or the passionate candidate. He was the black guy, especially to people in the "black culture". (As opposed to people like my wife who consider themselves simply Americans, whose great-great-great-grandparents happened to have come from Africa.)

There was a lot of talk about race. Heck, you've seen the polls - something like 40% of America said they wanted to vote for a black guy. That definitely brought race to the forefront.

Things might be different in South Carolina, but where I live in Texas, 90% of all comments about race are spoken by black people. Personally, I think it's silly. My wife and I prefer to simply be two people. My great-great-great-grandparents came from one place. Her great-great-great-grandparents came from some place. Who gives a shit where they came from, they died a hundred years ago.

I read everything Shap writes because he knows his stuff. I've worked with him enough to admire him as well as seeing his success from the outside. We haven't met in person, so I have no idea what he looks like. I can't see any reason I would care. Am I going to put more or less stock in what he says depending on where his relatives were born? The whole idea is goofy. Goofy if I cared, and goofy if anyone thinks they aren't successful because of their race because on the web noone knows or cares about that.

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I think more racism has been reported on than pre-Obama, but I doubt the amount of racism has really gone up. I also think that the line of what's racist and what isn't has really moved - a comment that would have been harmless just a decade ago is now racist from poor attempts at reading between the lines because the media is so fervently looking for any "X made a racist comment" stories to put out. I think maybe because we have a black president, media figures the racial tension is higher (which who knows, maybe it is) and plays on it with their hyperfocus on racism.

Hell, look at this Zimmerman situation - if it was a white guy who followed another white guy and ended up killing him, it would be a local news story at best. But because Zimmerman used a slur on his 911 call and the black guy he was following ended up getting killed, this story is everywhere and just won't die down. I wonder how many murders there have been since this story first broke that barely even got local coverage. It's a total pooch screw situation either way. Either Zimmerman did it in cold blood and race becomes an even bigger issue, or Martin instigated the violence and it was self-defense, which let's face it many people will simply refuse to believe regardless of facts and Zimmerman's life will be over anyways. Then everyone will be calling Martin a thug who deserved it and race will still become a bigger issue.
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I can only speak about my part of the country and what I see on the web and in the media. From my perspective, until 2008 we always elected a candidate for president. In 2008, we elected a black man for president. Nobody called him the tall guy, or the good looking guy, or the passionate candidate. He was the black guy, especially to people in the "black culture". (As opposed to people like my wife who consider themselves simply Americans, whose great-great-great-grandparents happened to have come from Africa.)

There was a lot of talk about race. Heck, you've seen the polls - something like 40% of America said they wanted to vote for a black guy. That definitely brought race to the forefront.
The hilarious thing about that is that if you recall the primary, it was black guy vs. woman. All the republicans would need to do to practically have a shoo-in given Obama's low approval rating is put up a viable female candidate so that people would enthusiastically vote in the first woman president. The only potentials that really came forward were Palin and Bachmann aka Dumb and Dumber/totally insane, and their male candidates have no one really modern-presidential. Mitt and Newt are maybe old-school presidential, good-ol boy club types but that's precisely what the country has come to hate since the 2008 crash, and of course Santorum is a fucking nut. It's amazing how the republicans could have fucked this up.
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The hilarious thing about that is that if you recall the primary, it was black guy vs. woman. All the republicans would need to do to practically have a shoo-in given Obama's low approval rating is put up a viable female candidate so that people would enthusiastically vote in the first woman president. The only potentials that really came forward were Palin and Bachmann aka Dumb and Dumber/totally insane, and their male candidates have no one really modern-presidential. Mitt and Newt are maybe old-school presidential, good-ol boy club types but that's precisely what the country has come to hate since the 2008 crash, and of course Santorum is a fucking nut. It's amazing how the republicans could have fucked this up.

Agreed. I asked Colin Powell to run at an event I attended. He could wipe the floor with Obama on experience and knowledge, though Obama is an excellent motivational speaker.

The republican field this year is less than stellar. I don't think Santorum is as bad as he's made out to be, kind of getting a bad rap. Certainly not the best republican candidate ever, though. It does look like the really top notch republicans aren't wanting to run for the job of taking on a federal debt that just doubled, a Medicare program that has been gutted, etc. Whether it's Obama, Romney, or Santorum, the next president is fucked. We're so beyond bankrupt. I wouldn't be campaigning for that job if I could instead run a successful company or something.

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