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Jakez · 04-10-2012, 01:07 AM

People can't even watch a music video or listen to a song now without screaming "Illuminati!" just because there's a devil or a pyramid or an 'all seeing eye' in it. But why is it there in the first place? What is the deal with all this religious symbolism and demonic shit they use? What really is the reason they are putting this stuff in the videos? I think the artists/directors are just doing it now because people make a big fucking fuss about it and it causes attention to their music.

Examples:

I know they didn't sell their soul or sacrifice a family member to become famous or any stupid shit like that, so what is the reasoning for using all this kind of imagery?

Nautilus · 04-10-2012, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakez

I know they didn't sell their soul or sacrifice a family member to become famous or any stupid shit like that, so what is the reasoning for using all this kind of imagery?

You just stated the reason. Yes they do sell their souls and sometimes they also sacrifice family members or close friends - that kind of glory comes with a pricetag attached.

Some random on topic article:
http://vigilantcitizen.com/musicbusi...-mind-control/

Jakez · 04-10-2012, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Nautilus

You just stated the reason. Yes they do sell their souls and sometimes they also sacrifice family members or close friends - that kind of glory comes with a pricetag attached.

Some random on topic article:
http://vigilantcitizen.com/musicbusi...-mind-control/

Give me a break. There has to be a much more sane reasoning for all of this.

Notice how all the Illuminati shit spread online 5-6+ years ago and they are just now the last few years using this mess in videos and whatnot. They've noticed that it's a fad, and they're simply using it to gain exposure and buzz with all the controversial imagery.

ottopottomouse · 04-10-2012, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakez

They've noticed that it's a fad, and they're simply using it to gain exposure and buzz with all the controversial imagery.

yep .

Nautilus · 04-10-2012, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakez

Give me a break. There has to be a much more sane reasoning for all of this.

Notice how all the Illuminati shit spread online 5-6+ years ago and they are just now the last few years using this mess in videos and whatnot. They've noticed that it's a fad, and they're simply using it to gain exposure and buzz with all the controversial imagery.

No it's been dragging on for decades if not centuries, ppl just started to notice recently but this shit has been present in various mainstream media for quite some time now.

Examples: 1999 Oscar, Whitney Houston & Mariah Carey

http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnew...on-1999-video/

And the most recent Grammy with yet another occult ceremony, dedicated to Whitney Houston's death

http://vigilantcitizen.com/musicbusi...s-mega-ritual/

Looks like she's been deep into it for quite some time, most likely during most of her lifetime.

Same symbolism can be found in most of the rock-n-roll era imagery, including Beatles and Led Zeppelin who were both deeply occult.

And here the article about 1927 movie Metropolis just to give you the idea it's not the recent phenomenon as you seem to think:

http://vigilantcitizen.com/musicbusi...n-pop-culture/

PR_Glen · 04-10-2012, 06:10 AM

the kook is strong in this one...

pornmasta · 04-10-2012, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakez

People can't even watch a music video or listen to a song now without screaming "Illuminati!" just because there's a devil or a pyramid or an 'all seeing eye' in it. But why is it there in the first place? What is the deal with all this religious symbolism and demonic shit they use? What really is the reason they are putting this stuff in the videos? I think the artists/directors are just doing it now because people make a big fucking fuss about it and it causes attention to their music.

the truth is here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Illuminatus!_Trilogy

read the full article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Prophecy_Fails

barcodes · 04-10-2012, 06:40 AM

Reported to the proper authorities...

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Jakez · 04-10-2012, 01:08 PM

Best-In-BC · 04-10-2012, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta

the truth is here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Illuminatus!_Trilogy

read the full article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Prophecy_Fails

Why post this? You think the idea of the illuminati is only 37 years old ?

pimpmaster9000 · 04-10-2012, 01:15 PM

Illuminati is just a mysterious and flash word for politicians.

CDSmith · 04-10-2012, 01:15 PM

The Canadian Illuminati is everywhere

and we're watching you.

ninavain · 04-10-2012, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakez

People can't even watch a music video or listen to a song now without screaming "Illuminati!" just because there's a devil or a pyramid or an 'all seeing eye' in it. But why is it there in the first place? What is the deal with all this religious symbolism and demonic shit they use? What really is the reason they are putting this stuff in the videos? I think the artists/directors are just doing it now because people make a big fucking fuss about it and it causes attention to their music.

Examples:

I know they didn't sell their soul or sacrifice a family member to become famous or any stupid shit like that, so what is the reasoning for using all this kind of imagery?

how stupid is it? Your money screams of it.. get educated or get out of the way

wehateporn · 04-10-2012, 01:26 PM

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StickyGreen · 04-10-2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakez

People can't even watch a music video or listen to a song now without screaming "Illuminati!" just because there's a devil or a pyramid or an 'all seeing eye' in it. But why is it there in the first place? What is the deal with all this religious symbolism and demonic shit they use? What really is the reason they are putting this stuff in the videos? I think the artists/directors are just doing it now because people make a big fucking fuss about it and it causes attention to their music.

Examples:

I know they didn't sell their soul or sacrifice a family member to become famous or any stupid shit like that, so what is the reasoning for using all this kind of imagery?

This guy (son-in-law of Anton LaVey) explains it pretty much in a nutshell:

raymor · 04-10-2012, 01:47 PM

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porno jew · 04-10-2012, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen

This guy (son-in-law of Anton LaVey) explains it pretty much in a nutshell:

lol like Nikolas Schreck has had any influence on pop culture. the guy's cultural life is an insignificant failure. he is buddhist now anyway.

nikolas and boyd rice were trying to influence culture through noise and industrial music as well, not hip hop. but don't let facts get in the way of your delusions.

JFK · 04-10-2012, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

The Canadian Illuminati is everywhere

and we're watching you.

I'm glad we're on the job

StickyGreen · 04-10-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

lol like Nikolas Schreck has had any influence on pop culture. the guy's cultural life is an insignificant failure. he is buddhist now anyway.

nikolas and boyd rice were trying to influence culture through noise and industrial music as well, not hip hop. but don't let facts get in the way of your delusions.

You're focusing on that one man, as if the agenda he's describing is not still going on full force.

And I'm sure you will say it's not, because it's all a big "delusion."

Why do you even come into threads like this? Your skepticism is lame and predictable.

wehateporn · 04-10-2012, 02:28 PM

XSAXS · 04-10-2012, 02:30 PM

I am convinced there is something to it, but I don't buy the "Illuminati" name tag. There is no doubt that the music industry has a huge fetish over the occult-ish symbolism -- One Eye, Lightning Bolts, Pyramids, Triangles, Pentagrams, Bondage, etc, etc... But I think "Illuminati" is just a scary catch-all phrase that screams "conspiracy theory."

Vigilant Citizen is a pretty good primer on what's going on out there. And the strangest thing for me is this -- MOST of what you see is related to the Music or Fashion industries. You don't see it as prevalently in movies or porn. You very rarely see porn stars covering one eye or making pyramid symbols like they do in the music biz.

Even so-called "Christian" music acts use these types of symbols...

... Notice the "666"

StickyGreen · 04-10-2012, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by XSAXS

You don't see it as prevalently in movies or porn. You very rarely see porn stars covering one eye or making pyramid symbols like they do in the music biz.

What are you talking about? It's just as prevalent in movies as it is in the music industry.

And these same occultists are involved in the porn industry, they just obviously wouldn't out themselves here.

There's even a pornstar whore with the all-seeing-eye pyramid tattooed on her back. Forget which one, I think it's Julia Bond.

StickyGreen · 04-10-2012, 02:36 PM

It's on her stomach, not back:

Dumb whore, I feel sorry for her... she probably doesn't even know what that represents...

(just noticed she has an upside-down cross also, another one of their symbols... maybe she does know what she's doing)

ninavain · 04-10-2012, 03:09 PM

you can bet your ass the ILLUMINATI IS REAL..
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XSAXS · 04-10-2012, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen

What are you talking about? It's just as prevalent in movies as it is in the music industry.

And these same occultists are involved in the porn industry, they just obviously wouldn't out themselves here.

There's even a pornstar whore with the all-seeing-eye pyramid tattooed on her back. Forget which one, I think it's Julia Bond.

I'm not saying it isn't out there. I'm simply saying it's not AS prevalent. Of ALLLLLLLL the porn sites out there, it's pretty rare to see something like this over and over and over again. A scene here or there, maybe... but it's not like the whole industry is pulsing with this crap.

porno jew · 04-10-2012, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen

You're focusing on that one man, as if the agenda he's describing is not still going on full force.

And I'm sure you will say it's not, because it's all a big "delusion."

Why do you even come into threads like this? Your skepticism is lame and predictable.

your credulity and lack of reality is interesting.

so some guy with zero influence on popular culture is somehow proof that the media is controlled by satanists. ok then.

ninavain · 04-10-2012, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

your credulity and lack of reality is interesting.

so some guy with zero influence on popular culture is somehow proof that the media is controlled by satanists. ok then.

that is just 1 person...as I am 1 person as sticky green is 1... now you have 3 and I can bet there are at least 3 million more that say the same thing...Satanist DO run shit. most of our presidents are Free Masons, SKULL and BONES..aka part of the Illuminati.
Last president to speak out against secret societies and to stop the FED...got his wig pushed back..JFK

Now every president after has had at least 1 speech in their term to mention the phrase " NEW WORLD ORDER" look the shit up..the history is there to be viewed..no need to be a douche because you haven't heard much about it

asdasd · 04-10-2012, 04:12 PM

Fads

StickyGreen · 04-10-2012, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

your credulity and lack of reality is interesting.

so some guy with zero influence on popular culture is somehow proof that the media is controlled by satanists. ok then.

That clip isn't really "proof" of anything, it's more like an example.

It's just a person explaining the agenda.

Jakez · 04-10-2012, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by asdasd

Fads

We all know there are free masons. But all the symbolism used in music videos even by broke artists that no one knows about yet is confusing. Maybe some are just using them ignorantly as a fad and others have an actual connection? But really, how would all these mainstream artists be part of some secret society and be able to keep the "secret(s)" from ever leaking? They can't even hang onto a recording so how could they prevent friends and family members from knowing about the connection they supposedly have.

StickyGreen · 04-10-2012, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakez

We all know there are free masons. But all the symbolism used in music videos even by broke artists that no one knows about yet is confusing. Maybe some are just using them ignorantly as a fad and others have an actual connection? But really, how would all these mainstream artists be part of some secret society and be able to keep the "secret(s)" from ever leaking? They can't even hang onto a recording.

Most of the artists are puppets with contracts, they do what they're told.

If the video director tells them certain symbolism needs to be in the video, or if the person at the photoshoot tells them to cover one eye, etc, they do it.

But that's not to say that some of the artists aren't directly involved themselves, probably just very few.

StickyGreen · 04-10-2012, 04:46 PM

Here is a former member of R&B group "Dru Hill" talking about the industry:

It's a bit hard to understand him, but he talks about how with a group only one of the members needs to be into the occult stuff and they are the ones who deal with the record exec people directly. He also talks about how the label calls all the shots from changing their name to making the dragon their logo.

StickyGreen · 04-10-2012, 04:48 PM

Article about popular new rap group Odd Future:

Odd Future: The Rise Of Satanic Blatancy

Jakez · 04-10-2012, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen

Article about popular new rap group Odd Future:

Odd Future: The Rise Of Satanic Blatancy

They were doing all of that long before they signed a deal with any label. They are all about shock rap and controversial shit that will piss people off.. doubt it has anything to do with secrecy and it's definitely not someone telling them what to do.

KingNigel · 04-10-2012, 04:54 PM

pornmasta · 04-10-2012, 05:47 PM

fail:

asdasd · 04-10-2012, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakez

We all know there are free masons. But all the symbolism used in music videos even by broke artists that no one knows about yet is confusing. Maybe some are just using them ignorantly as a fad and others have an actual connection? But really, how would all these mainstream artists be part of some secret society and be able to keep the "secret(s)" from ever leaking? They can't even hang onto a recording so how could they prevent friends and family members from knowing about the connection they supposedly have.

It's the brain vs the brawn.

MattPIVO · 04-10-2012, 07:32 PM

I think with someone like Jay-Z it works as an excellent way to sell records. There comes a time (after the first $100m) that you can no long rap about the ghetto, selling drugs, and your rough/tough life. Not to mention it's a great conversation starter among fans "see that crazy new Jay-Z video, with the illuminati bullshit?" Don't get me wrong, his music does well without it, but it certainly adds additional views, etc.

Just think, it's such a powerful marketing tool that it started a thread here :-)

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You can add Julia Bond to your Illuminati bloodline list.

oppoten · 04-11-2012, 12:37 AM

Jewish misdirection.

If they're saying Illuminati, they're not saying Jews.

sandman! · 04-11-2012, 12:37 AM

DaLord · 04-11-2012, 12:43 AM

The day any of those get into Illuminati the organisation have been dead and gone for ages.

xholly · 04-11-2012, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen

Why do you even come into threads like this? Your skepticism is lame and predictable.

I for one appreciate how PJ exposes peoples ignorance and their spreading of misinformation with just a few lines.

Jakez · 04-11-2012, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen

Article about popular new rap group Odd Future:

Odd Future: The Rise Of Satanic Blatancy

Holy shit I just finally read all of that and some of the comments. Thanks for the laugh.

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