Who is Derek Smout?

[smutnut]

He's the guy Teen Revenue brought in before stopping paying their affiliates. When you see his name at his next Gig, you should know that company is going to stop paying you soon and have his lying ass try to lead you on.

[JFK]

drama Du Jour ?

[smutnut]

For sure. Have you been paid by them or am I the only guy that was left promoting them and that's why they were converting LOL? Just curious

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Qui voulez-vous dire?



Never heard of him...

ADG

[Dirty F]

Just another dumbass salesrep with no clue about anything.

[candyflip]

People gotta pay their bills, and selling out your peers is a great option.

[Jman]

Originally Posted by JFK

drama Du Jour ?

Oh OUI OUI!!!!

[smutnut]

I always wonder what kind of pay you get to rep a company you know is fucking everyone

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Qui voulez-vous dire?



Never heard of him...

ADG

Damn, he looks like a fucking rodent

[Rothstein]

I LOL'd @ Derek Smouth

[astronaut x]

Originally Posted by smutnut

Damn, he looks like a fucking rodent

There are so many rodents here that everyone else is walking around with the bubonic plague.

[anexsia]

Originally Posted by Rothstein

This industry is just one big clusterfuck of shit companies owned by more shit companies who are ran by shit people.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Qui voulez-vous dire?



Never heard of him...

ADG

It's been a while since someone has done that

[Dwreck]

Hello Charles,

I do apologize for the delay in payment. We recently added new staff members to eliminate any payment issues. You will be paid out in full as promised.

I understand your frustration and you can be assured you will receive payment.

The racial slurs, threats of violence, promises to hack, name calling, cursing, getting banned on other forums, re direct scripts, starting multiple threads does not speed up this process. You have done everything to bait me into argument that simply doesn't not exist.

I do have ample evidence to ban you with out pay for the antics you have pulled the last week. Your questionable behavior has been extreme and unnecessary and what you call *FUN*. You enjoy this.

We have gone so far as to confirm your paxum id and offered you other sponsers that fit within your niche.

I have been fair, responsive ,straight forward and apologetic the whole time.

[Sharky]

It's never good to shoot the messenger in situations like these.

I'm not a part of the situation and have no tie to anything here, but it does appear Dwreck is responding and acknowledging there is a payment due and trying to make arrangements to get it taken care of.

At least you have that. There are a lot of sponsors who just close up shop and ignore your requests for payments.

[ajrocks]

Originally Posted by smutnut

He's the guy Teen Revenue brought in before stopping paying their affiliates. When you see his name at his next Gig, you should know that company is going to stop paying you soon and have his lying ass try to lead you on.

You are making statements about someones reputation without any proof. You should be banned right now and I will be pointing this out to Eric. Messing with an innocent persons reputation is just as low as you can go.

You should spend more time thinking about why you have a propensity for being a negative person.

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by Dwreck

Hello Charles,

I do apologize for the delay in payment. We recently added new staff members to eliminate any payment issues. You will be paid out in full as promised.

I understand your frustration and you can be assured you will receive payment.

The racial slurs, threats of violence, promises to hack, name calling, cursing, getting banned on other forums, re direct scripts, starting multiple threads does not speed up this process. You have done everything to bait me into argument that simply doesn't not exist.

I do have ample evidence to ban you with out pay for the antics you have pulled the last week. Your questionable behavior has been extreme and unnecessary and what you call *FUN*. You enjoy this.

We have gone so far as to confirm your paxum id and offered you other sponsers that fit within your niche.

I have been fair, responsive ,straight forward and apologetic the whole time.

You are the biggest fucking liar on this planet. You have a different story every time we talk. Go fuck yourself. I already have things working to get the compensation I deserve from you guys and probably far far better

[Nurgle]

calling a guy a rodent when you want money isnt normally a winning move lol

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by ajrocks

You are making statements about someones reputation without any proof. You should be banned right now and I will be pointing this out to Eric. Messing with an innocent persons reputation is just as low as you can go.

You should spend more time thinking about why you have a propensity for being a negative person.

What do you mean without proof? YOu want to see ICQ? This guy has told me I will be getting checks, told me to give him my Paxum info and it would be in my account immediately and he's still going on and on now about an entirely different story.

It all started with some girl who had a family emergency out of the country.

What kind of proof would you like? He himself just admitted I'm owed money only now the story has completely fucking changed

[CaptainHowdy]

Adult business as usual ...

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by Nurgle

calling a guy a rodent when you want money isnt normally a winning move lol

I don't plan on being paid. No one has this month and no one really expects to anyway. You're an idiot if you think they are really going to pay you

[astronaut x]

Originally Posted by Nurgle

calling a guy a rodent when you want money isnt normally a winning move lol

"Normally" it is not.

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by astronaut x

"Normally" it is not.

I can only call it the way I see it

Fucking guy hasn't told one truth yet and now he's here with a completely fucking different story. There's been at least four of them so far. Ask him why my money wasn't put in Paxum after he got my info like he told the other guy would happen. Ask him about the chick with the family emergency. Now they hired new people LOL.

It just doesn't end. It's like a bad television show with the plot all over the place

[smutnut]

Anyway, as long as a few people are saved from his bullshit. It's cool with me

[HAPPYPEEKERS]

Dwreck is really a great guy that has been in the adult business for years and years.

He does not own the company does he?

Why are you calling him out instead of the owners???

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Dwreck

Hello Charles,

I do apologize for the delay in payment. We recently added new staff members to eliminate any payment issues. You will be paid out in full as promised.

I understand your frustration and you can be assured you will receive payment.

The racial slurs, threats of violence, promises to hack, name calling, cursing, getting banned on other forums, re direct scripts, starting multiple threads does not speed up this process. You have done everything to bait me into argument that simply doesn't not exist.

I do have ample evidence to ban you with out pay for the antics you have pulled the last week. Your questionable behavior has been extreme and unnecessary and what you call *FUN*. You enjoy this.

We have gone so far as to confirm your paxum id and offered you other sponsers that fit within your niche.

I have been fair, responsive ,straight forward and apologetic the whole time.

Oh wow.

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by Happypeekers

Dwreck is really a great guy that has been in the adult business for years and years.

He does not own the company does he?

Why are you calling him out instead of the owners???

Because he's a buffer for the owners and he has lied and lied and lied with different stories over and over and over. I cannot even get a reply from the owners or accounts on ICQ or email. He is there for that purpose and he's a lying sack of shit that can't even keep his story straight.

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Oh wow.

And it's so funny that my attitude is the reason I'm not getting paid now (story #5 I guess) since there wouldn't even be any attitude if I had just gotten paid on time. And then to make things worse he keeps coming up with new plot twists for why people aren't getting paid LOL

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by Happypeekers

Dwreck is really a great guy that has been in the adult business for years and years.

He does not own the company does he?

Why are you calling him out instead of the owners???

I'll make a deal with you though cause you seem like a nice person. You get me their info and I will certainly start on them

[Babaganoosh]

Originally Posted by Happypeekers

Dwreck is really a great guy that has been in the adult business for years and years.

He does not own the company does he?

Why are you calling him out instead of the owners???

You are who you work for. If you willingly associate yourself with scum, you are scum.

[v4 media]

Originally Posted by Happypeekers

Why are you calling him out instead of the owners???

Who are the owners of Media Revenue?

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

You are who you work for. If you willingly associate yourself with scum, you are scum.

Okay. It's hard to argue with that

would you rather this scum just let the other scum operate with impunity?

[HAPPYPEEKERS]

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

You are who you work for. If you willingly associate yourself with scum, you are scum.

So many webmasters have taken jobs with companies that just go out of business.

It is not the affiliate managers fault but they do have to put up with all of the problems.

Not trying to be mean to ugly to anyone

Has the company always been scum?

[HAPPYPEEKERS]

Originally Posted by v4 media

Who are the owners of Media Revenue?

http://trademark.markify.com/tradema...e.com/85513961
http://who.godaddy.com/whois.aspx?do...rog_id=GoDaddy

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1039884
Is this who you are talking about?

[ajrocks]

I know your type, I've had guys like you freak out and threaten to hack, attack, kill, wish brain cancer..... I think you need to work on your life skills.

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by Happypeekers

So many webmasters have taken jobs with companies that just go out of business.

It is not the affiliate managers fault but they do have to put up with all of the problems.

Not trying to be mean to ugly to anyone

Has the company always been scum?

No the company was actually pretty decent way back, and then I sat through their new bull crap. There was this guy Tampa who repped them in between, but you could respect him cause he kind of let you know the score. Not that he was perfect or anything.

I can't believe anyone has any respect for Derek. I'm sorry. I see nothing but a lying weasel. You have no idea the stories this asshole has come up with to cover for his bosses. I just hope this follows him. I have a unique way of dealing with the company over all that I may share with others who have been screwed, but derek needs to burn a little too

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by Happypeekers

So many webmasters have taken jobs with companies that just go out of business.

It is not the affiliate managers fault but they do have to put up with all of the problems.

Not trying to be mean to ugly to anyone

Has the company always been scum?

No one here is going to give you a refresher, if you haven't been paying attention for the past 2+ years. There's just way too much to get into.

[Failed]

It's amazing to me that affiliates are attacked when they bring issues that affect other affiliates to the light of day. I went through it, and I see others go through it all the time on this board. What a shame that we can't even help one another out anymore without being attacked by the bro club.

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by ajrocks

I know your type, I've had guys like you freak out and threaten to hack, attack, kill, wish brain cancer..... I think you need to work on your life skills.

Do you even know what's going on? Just curious.

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by Failed

It's amazing to me that affiliates are attacked when they bring issues that affect other affiliates to the light of day. I went through it, and I see others go through it all the time on this board. What a shame that we can't even help one another out anymore without being attacked by the bro club.

I agree lol, like ajrocks LOL, but he probably operates a program and can't understand why someone who doesn't get paid is pissed.

Anyways, I'm pissed and this is a fun way to vent, but I'm actually doing this to inform you guys and make sure they lose a bit of traffic. Of course some people are going to get screwed

[Makaveli]

Just pay this fucking idiot his 60 bucks already..

[HAPPYPEEKERS]

Originally Posted by candyflip

No one here is going to give you a refresher, if you haven't been paying attention for the past 2+ years. There's just way too much to get into.

To be honest I have not been around much in the past 2 years.. no reason to be rude about it.
I have used 3 or 4 sponsors for the past 10 - 12 years and do not usually try out new ones.

[smutnut]

This asshole Derek Smout keeps popping in with different stories each and every time. Watch he'll come up with few more plot twists before this saga ends, I'm certain.

[Dwreck]

Charles,

I refuse to address your false accusations, lies and will not be baited into an flame war on gfy.

I have put you in direct contact with accounting, suggest alternative teen programs for your traffic , offered you secondary payment options which you refused for days. I ignored your threats, racial slurs, hacking attempts, name calling, attempts to take down the program, insinuation of violence in an attempt to get banned so you can post about it.

You will be paid in full as promised via email and icq.


End my comments.

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by Makaveli

Just pay this fucking idiot his 60 bucks already..

It's more like 500 but pretty much the same. If they can't afford that we can pretty much be assured they are done

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by Dwreck

Charles,

I refuse to address your false accusations, lies and will not be baited into an flame war on gfy.

I have put you in direct contact with accounting, suggest alternative teen programs for your traffic , offered you secondary payment options which you refused for days. I ignored your threats, racial slurs, hacking attempts, name calling, attempts to take down the program, insinuation of violence in an attempt to get banned so you can post about it.

You will be paid in full as promised via email and icq.


End my comments.

Are you saying you didn't tell me about some accountant having a family emergency and you didn't say that I would be receiving two checks when next payment was due and that you didn't just tell me yesterday that when I gave you my Paxum info the money would be in my account instantly? Now you add that you just hired new people so that is the real problem.

What's the next story, can I get a sneak preview please?

P.S. before you answer and dig yourself in deeper, I can copy and past ICQ conversations if it will help refresh your memory at all

[candyflip]

A copy paste from ICQ is all this thread is missing.

[Babaganoosh]

Originally Posted by Happypeekers

So many webmasters have taken jobs with companies that just go out of business.

It is not the affiliate managers fault but they do have to put up with all of the problems.

Not trying to be mean to ugly to anyone

Has the company always been scum?

If I worked as an affiliate manager and my employer intentionally stopped paying affiliates, I would quit. I can't imagine why anyone --especially an affiliate rep whose reputation is so closely linked with their livelihood-- would ruin their rep over a stupid job that will eventually end anyway.

For instance, Sarah (formerly Sarah_Maxcash) who went to work for Fleshlight. When Fleshlight fucked a bunch of their affiliates, Sarah defended them. Guess who is forever branded as a willing participant in a scam? She could have been a rock star if she just quit. Hell, I would have sent traffic to any company that hired her after she quit just because she was there. Now it's the other way around.

I've dumped clients and bailed on contracts because they asked me to do something that was illegal or just downright dirty. There were times that I needed the money but it still wasn't worth it to me. I'd question the quality of a person's character who would willingly associate with a company who screws people over.

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by Dwreck

Charles,

I refuse to address your false accusations, lies and will not be baited into an flame war on gfy.

I have put you in direct contact with accounting, suggest alternative teen programs for your traffic , offered you secondary payment options which you refused for days. I ignored your threats, racial slurs, hacking attempts, name calling, attempts to take down the program, insinuation of violence in an attempt to get banned so you can post about it.

You will be paid in full as promised via email and icq.


End my comments.

Yup just checked. ICQ history goes back to 3/1 with my new account. Just in case you need some refreshing. I doubt anyone wants to see it all so should I just post the parts you're calling me a liar about?

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

If I worked as an affiliate manager and my employer intentionally stopped paying affiliates, I would quit. I can't imagine why anyone --especially an affiliate rep whose reputation is so closely linked with their livelihood-- would ruin their rep over a stupid job that will eventually end anyway.

For instance, Sarah (formerly Sarah_Maxcash) who went to work for Fleshlight. When Fleshlight fucked a bunch of their affiliates, Sarah defended them. Guess who is forever branded as a willing participant in a scam? She could have been a rock star if she just quit. Hell, I would have sent traffic to any company that hired her after she quit just because she was there. Now it's the other way around.

I've dumped clients and bailed on contracts because they asked me to do something that was illegal or just downright dirty. There were times that I needed the money but it still wasn't worth it to me. I'd question the quality of a person's character who would willingly associate with a company who screws people over.

That's how I feel