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Old 06-01-2012, 07:06 AM   #1
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Basic WordPress Development Package $4999.00

I make the same money with less headaches. I think I should raise the price to $6999.00

Installing WordPress
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Installation of WordPress theme
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Initial setup of all menus and pages
4 hour training session upon completion of your project
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Anybody ever experience this in mainstream web development and design?

Raising your prices to deal with less people and attracting a higher end client.
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Old 06-01-2012, 07:08 AM   #2
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$6999.00 to install wordpress im doing something wrong
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Yes. But we actually just ended up creating a way to cater to both markets, because it was crazy to leave money on the table.
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I think you should raise it to $9999,99 that is more realistic for wordpress
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Never gotten $5k for a Wordpress site, but have done a few Joomla and Drupal sites in that range.
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i did a really basic Joomla site for $1200 and $300 per year for hosting and domain
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5k for something almost any idiot can do himself?? Ok so he wont get a custom theme that may at tops be worth 1500.. Plug ins are everywhere for free and sooooo damn easy to set up.

Package is not worth more than 2200 at max..
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i did a really basic Joomla site for $1200 and $300 per year for hosting and domain
I was charging 1499.00 for WordPress design and development.

Web hosting and WordPress maintenance for 24.99 a month.

I am really deep into WordPress and I only want to deal with high-end clients/companies.
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5k for something almost any idiot can do himself?? Ok so he wont get a custom theme that may at tops be worth 1500.. Plug ins are everywhere for free and sooooo damn easy to set up.

Package is not worth more than 2200 at max..
Stop haten'

Look, a gold course owner doesn't know anything about the Internet. He knows he needs the best to impress his clients. 5000k for him is nothing and is just a part of his marketing budget.

There are many business owners just like him. The trick is finding them and being well networked to do business with him.
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$1500 is about what I get for a similar package. It's a pretty easy sell in most cases.

I'm sure I've had a few clients I could have gotten more out of.
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I understand what do you mean...
BUT imagine that someone after a few months says to your costumer that anyone can buy a nice wp theme fo $80... and the change of anyone hits twice times the same theme in the entire internet is 5%....

dunno... i had similar issues like that...
asked for a nice cash... some scriptkid friend of my 'client' said to him that WP is free... and there are 100s of nice themes for 100 bucks...

i'm gonna deploy, with a friend, one WP for a medical clinic for 1200 bucks...

we are not haters.

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I understand what do you mean...
BUT imagine that someone after a few months says to your costumer that anyone can buy a nice wp theme fo $80... and the change of anyone hits twice times the same theme in the entire internet is 5%....

dunno... i had similar issues like that...
asked for a nice cash... some scriptkid friend of my 'client' said to him that WP is free... and there are 100s of nice themes for 100 bucks...

i'm gonna deploy one WP for a medica clinic for 1200 bucks...

we are not haters.
I would like to see a normal person who already is running a business set-up a premium theme.

Would they know how to chmod 777 files and folders? How to harden up their theme?
How to use shortcodes? How to use the plugins properly?
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Stop haten'

Look, a gold course owner doesn't know anything about the Internet. He knows he needs the best to impress his clients. 5000k for him is nothing and is just a part of his marketing budget.

There are many business owners just like him. The trick is finding them and being well networked to do business with him.
I agree, if you can get people to pay those rates... go for it
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Stop haten'

Look, a gold course owner doesn't know anything about the Internet. He knows he needs the best to impress his clients. 5000k for him is nothing and is just a part of his marketing budget.

There are many business owners just like him. The trick is finding them and being well networked to do business with him.
Not haten at all. Just think is silly how many people will pay those prices.
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Stop haten'

Look, a gold course owner doesn't know anything about the Internet. He knows he needs the best to impress his clients. 5000k for him is nothing and is just a part of his marketing budget.

There are many business owners just like him. The trick is finding them and being well networked to do business with him.
totally agree fairly big business dint care about the cost
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Well latest eCommerce integration the mainstream company I own 1/3 of did is around 100K USD. We don't do PHP so no WP, but we made a module that generate landing pages with YouTube/FB integration and a simple form for about 15K USD.

But that's not the US market of course. Last place I worked I sold corporate websites in the price range of 100K-1M USD
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Yes, getting to know a client takes dinner, drinks, drinks, dirty jokes and hanging out at business social events.
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I understand what do you mean...
BUT imagine that someone after a few months says to your costumer that anyone can buy a nice wp theme fo $80... and the change of anyone hits twice times the same theme in the entire internet is 5%....
I've had people decide to choose free themes on the wordpress site itself still perfectly happy to pay for the overall finished site. There are a lot more people in the world that know zero about anything computer/internet related than do and they accept that the time they would spend struggling with something is better utilised earning money.
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I was charging 1499.00 for WordPress design and development.

Web hosting and WordPress maintenance for 24.99 a month.

I am really deep into WordPress and I only want to deal with high-end clients/companies.
Good switch man, I think it's a great idea.
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Stop haten'

Look, a gold course owner doesn't know anything about the Internet. He knows he needs the best to impress his clients. 5000k for him is nothing and is just a part of his marketing budget.

There are many business owners just like him. The trick is finding them and being well networked to do business with him.
True story. A designer and I work like this all the time. Easy money.
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People will pay for it because they think for $5k it's something special. Id add some "SEO" thing in there too like a plugin, which will give them a bigger hard on.

For example $4,999 one time with SEO support. Save $2,000/mo on hiring an SEO company!

Also helps to make it "exclusive" too if you can figure out a way, such as "interviewing for potential clients" or something

Again, people are stupid

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I did work for a client that paid $9,000 for a WordPress custom design. I guess if you can get them to pay why the hell not.

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I was charging 1499.00 for WordPress design and development.

Web hosting and WordPress maintenance for 24.99 a month.

I am really deep into WordPress and I only want to deal with high-end clients/companies.
what do you do other than setup a theme, and plugins, do you do any major development stuff? like custom plugins, or is it bascially just getting them setup and going.

if so what type of plugins have you developed.
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$49.00 sounds more fair..

but if it's really cool then maybe $69.00

(but if someone's willing to pay that, then who are you to argue?.. lol)
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Shit, we have been doing this for $50 and you buy the "design" separate.

Design = header, banner, logo, background and a few icons that's really all you need on most WP sites.
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I normally charge $45 for install/config/premade theme install/plugins

Best of all, I like my clients.
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5k for something almost any idiot can do himself?? Ok so he wont get a custom theme that may at tops be worth 1500.. Plug ins are everywhere for free and sooooo damn easy to set up.

Package is not worth more than 2200 at max..
You do not understand the market.
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what do you do other than setup a theme, and plugins, do you do any major development stuff? like custom plugins, or is it bascially just getting them setup and going.

if so what type of plugins have you developed.

I haven't had the time to develop a plugin yet.

I am getting into customization of BuddyPress.

I do a lot of "massaging" of the code to get it where I want.
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You do not understand the market.
Agreed.

Some companies are going to be willing to pay more for a certain level of service. As an example, there is a guy here on GFY who I have worked with for many years. I am not going to name him, but he does good work and for a long time was fairly cheap compared to many others.

That was fine and dandy, it brought him a ton of work. Eventually he became overwhelmed, and because of those cheap prices, he could not afford to hire additional help or working bees. Eventually he started disappointing a lot of his long term business, and clients. Regardless of your relationship, people have a business to run. They are only going to 'wait' for so long.

Myself, among others, told him to raise his prices and take on less clients. Once he did that, he managed to get back on track with commitment times, and a level of service. I could start throwing him consistent work again.

What I am getting at here is, people will be willing to pay more if you do good work. You will find that you can take on less clients, make more money, and even afford to hire help and expand if you need too.

Mainstream/corporations are going to be willing to pay for a better level of service. Not everyone is looking for bottom of the barrel workers or prices. In the end, it is just a tax write off for most businesses It is not like the money is coming out of their personal bank account for rent.

Holding up a project for a few pennies doesn't make any business sense. Same as hiring some clown shoe for $50.00 and then being on their time table (behind Xbox, naps, WOW, smoking bud, whatever), versus paying $500.00 and they have your work as a priority and delivered within a week. Ultimately allowing you to launch sooner, and get the ROI rolling.

In short, time is money.

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I am getting into customization of BuddyPress.

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build a plugin, you will learn a lot ;)
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nice i think i get rich quickly if i charge this rate

but in gfy client nah :-)
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nice i think i get rich quickly if i charge this rate

but in gfy client nah :-)
GFY 4999.00 = 4.99 because they all "thinK' they know how to set up a site.


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5k for something almost any idiot can do himself?? Ok so he wont get a custom theme that may at tops be worth 1500.. Plug ins are everywhere for free and sooooo damn easy to set up.

Package is not worth more than 2200 at max..
I disagree.

You would be amazed at how many small businesses still do not have websites. And the ones that do have websites, are mostly garbage. Poor navigation, poor information, and poor SEO. A good website for a dentist, Dr., contractor, even a service provider of some sort is easily worth that kind of money. They will make it back plus much more.

Older generations may still use Yellow Book, but my generation does not. We use Google. A $5000 website that receives a good organic listing is much cheaper, and effective, than Yellow Book.
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