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sperbonzo · 06-05-2012, 10:40 AM

This will become more and more common. These agencies are out of control.

http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclu...e.html?id=9117

"EPA Agents, Police Officer Interrogate Asheville Emailer
Computer consultant tried to contact controversial official after 'crucify' remarks
By Karen McMahan
May. 30th, 2012

RALEIGH ? An Asheville businessman is left with more questions than answers after a May 2 visit to his home by two armed special agents from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, accompanied by an Asheville police officer, apparently to question him about what the EPA interpreted as a ?cryptic and concerning? email.

The incident is under investigation by the office of Sen. Richard Burr, R-N.C.

Larry Keller, who runs a computer consulting business from his Asheville home, sent an email April 27 to the EPA in an attempt to reach Al Armendariz, EPA regional administrator for Region 6. Two days earlier, a video from 2010 was posted on YouTube in which Armendariz said his enforcement philosophy was to ?crucify? officials from big oil and gas companies.

The video became a sensation on blogs and on Twitter, and on many conservative news websites. After seeing it, Keller told Carolina Journal, he was troubled by the comments and just wanted to express his concerns to Armendariz, a public official whose salary is paid by taxpayers. ?I wanted to know why someone in his position would say what he did. I wanted to question his reasoning and principles. It?s all about freedom of speech,? Keller said.

An Internet search for Armendariz?s contact information directed him to email David Gray, director of external affairs for EPA Region 6. Keller sent the following email: ?Hello Mr. Gray-Do you have Mr. Armendariz?s contact information so we can say hello? -Regards-Larry Keller.?

Armendariz resigned April 30, after the ensuing national uproar over his comments. The EPA agents arrived at Keller?s home May 2.

Keller told CJ that Special Agent Michael Woods asked if he had sent an email to an EPA employee. At first, Keller said no, but then remembered the email to Gray. At that point, Woods produced a copy of the email and asked if it was the email he sent.

The second agent said Keller?s choice of words could be interpreted in many different ways and asked if Keller thought the content was suspicious in any way. Keller said he didn?t have anything to hide and the email postscript had his company logo and website address.

Investigation not concluded

The discourse quickly became adversarial, Keller said. When Keller asked for a copy of the email, Woods said it was impossible because the investigation was not yet concluded.

At that point, Keller heard his wife arriving home and asked the agents to stay so his wife could meet them and ?see what all the fuss was about.? Woods said they had to get going and the trio started toward the back staircase, Keller said.

Keller had asked for the agents? business cards, but after initially saying they had them, they later told Keller they were ?out of cards.? He insisted they give him the name of their supervisor, and Woods wrote the name and number on a piece of paper, Keller said.

Keller said he followed them outside and noticed a police cruiser parked in the neighbor?s driveway. The agents left without acknowledging his wife, Keller said. He also learned after contacting the Asheville Police Department that another officer had remained in the cruiser throughout the interview....."

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BIGTYMER · 06-05-2012, 10:44 AM

The EPA carries guns now too? wtf..

Rochard · 06-05-2012, 10:46 AM

The EPA has "agents"? Do they carry guns? Can they arrest people?

Who knew.

Harmon · 06-05-2012, 10:46 AM

xxxjay incoming

Socks · 06-05-2012, 10:53 AM

They're protecting the environment from conservatives.

What's wrong with that?

BIGTYMER · 06-05-2012, 10:55 AM

You'd think the EPA would have the FBI do their law enforcement.

More government waste.

Sly · 06-05-2012, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

You'd think the EPA would have the FBI do their law enforcement.

More government waste.

Now that I think of it, it is sort of strange that all of the large federal agencies carry out their own enforcement. I am picturing a Department of Education agent running around with a gun, LOL.

RebelR · 06-05-2012, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

Now that I think of it, it is sort of strange that all of the large federal agencies carry out their own enforcement. I am picturing a Department of Education agent running around with a gun, LOL.

more like a giant ruler to rap you across the knuckles with, if you get out of line.

Spudstr · 06-05-2012, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

The EPA has "agents"? Do they carry guns? Can they arrest people?

Who knew.

Every "agency" has their own law enforcement group....

fuzebox · 06-05-2012, 11:10 AM

The EPA once shut down my high voltage laser containment system.

Phoenix · 06-05-2012, 11:15 AM

where is the like button...wtf

pornguy · 06-05-2012, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

You'd think the EPA would have the FBI do their law enforcement.

More government waste.

Cheaper to pay their own people.

Hence the agents.

sperbonzo · 06-05-2012, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy

Cheaper to pay their own people.

Hence the agents.

Nope. Nothing to do with cost. Everything to do with the ego's of the agency heads.

They want to have gun toting officers like other agencies do. It's just a classic government bureaucracy pissing contest.

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Harmon · 06-05-2012, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox

The EPA once shut down my high voltage laser containment system.

Holy fuck I forgot that classic even existed.

Tom_PM · 06-05-2012, 12:30 PM

Quote:

“Hello Mr. Gray-Do you have Mr. Armendariz’s contact information so we can say hello? -Regards-Larry Keller.”

They thought THAT could be interpreted in many ways???? Seriously?

"Michael Corleone says hello!"

Did the agent mean something like that? WTF?!
Which way to planet Earth from here?

newB · 06-05-2012, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox

The EPA once shut down my high voltage laser containment system.

I recognized the scene, but it took me a second to place it.

MaDalton · 06-05-2012, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox

The EPA once shut down my high voltage laser containment system.

and you know what then happens

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