At least 30,000 drones spying on US citizens within 10 years

[SuckOnThis]

Is this a mosquito?NO. This is an "INSECT SPY DRONE" already in production. It can be controlled from a great distance and is equipped with a camera, microphone and can land on you, and use it's needle to take a DNA sample with the pain of a mosquito bite.


Most Americans have gotten used to regular news reports about military and CIA drones attacking terrorist suspects ? including US citizens ? in Pakistan, Yemen, and elsewhere abroad.

But picture thousands of drone aircraft buzzing around the United States ? peering from the sky at breaches in border security, wildfires about to become major conflagrations, patches of marijuana grown illegally deep within national forests, or environmental scofflaws polluting the land, air, and water.

By some government estimates, as many as 30,000 drones could be part of intelligence gathering and law enforcement here in the United States within the next ten years. Operated by agencies down to the local level, this would be in addition to the 110 current and planned drone activity sites run by the military services in 39 states, reported this week by the Federation of American Scientists (FAS), a non-government research project.

The presence of drones in the US was brought home Wednesday night when some people thought they saw a UFO along the Capitol Beltway in Washington. In fact, it was a disc-shaped X-47B UCAV (Unmanned Combat Air System) being hauled from Edwards Air Force Base in California to Naval Air Station Patuxent River in Maryland for testing.

Civil libertarians warn that ?unmanned aircraft carrying cameras raise the prospect of a significant new avenue for the surhaveillance of American life,? as the American Civil Liberties Union put it in a report last December.

?The technology is quickly becoming cheaper and more powerful, interest in deploying drones among police departments is increasing, and our privacy laws are not strong enough to ensure that the new technology will be used responsibly and consistently with democratic values,? reported the ACLU. ?In short, all the pieces appear to be lining up for the eventual introduction of routine aerial surhaveillance in American life ? a development that would profoundly change the character of public life in the United States.?

Steven Aftergood, who directs the Project on Government Secrecy at the Federation of American Scientists, highlights one potentially controversial part of US Air Force policy regarding military drones flown over the United States.

?Air Force Unmanned Aircraft System (UAS) operations, exercise and training missions will not conduct nonconsensual surveillance on specifically identified US persons, unless expressly approved by the Secretary of Defense, consistent with US law and regulations,? according to an instruction on oversight of Air Force intelligence.

At the same time, the instruction states, ?Collected imagery may incidentally include US persons or private property without consent.?

Americans have mixed feelings about pilotless drones flown over the United States, according to a new Monmouth University Poll.

A large majority (80 percent) supports the idea of using drones to help with search and rescue missions; a substantial majority also supports using drones to track down runaway criminals (67 percent) and control illegal immigration along US borders (64 percent).

But despite widespread support for certain domestic applications of drone technology, privacy issues are an obvious concern, the poll finds. For example, just 23 percent support using drones for such routine police activity as issuing speeding tickets while two-thirds oppose the idea.

?Specifically, 42 percent of Americans would be very concerned and 22 percent would be somewhat concerned about their own privacy if US law enforcement started using unmanned drones with high tech surveillance cameras," the poll report states.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47846841.../#.T933XEd2ylA

[sandman!]

[Colmike9]

I've known about those things for a long time now and they use them all the time in a dragonfly model..

[L-Pink]

That's fucked up.

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[Paul Markham]

I'm selling tin foil hats on special this week. LOL

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I'm selling tin foil hats on special this week. LOL

Yea, this is all a figment of someones imagination.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

?Specifically, 42 percent of Americans would be very concerned and 22 percent would be somewhat concerned about their own privacy if US law enforcement started using unmanned drones with high tech surveillance cameras," the poll report states.

i wonder what kind of idiots the other 36% are

[Harmon]

It won't be a comet. it won't be an asteroid. It won't be a plague. Or some rogue influenza.

It will be the human race.

We will all huff the fuck out of OFF until it is pouring out of our pores because we are too stupid staring at the dollar Burger King menu to realize these are tiny robots and not robots.

Also, we will get the info to do so from the internet.

[Frank21]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I'm selling tin foil hats on special this week. LOL

lol yes this is obviously a creature which has evolved from a biological fly into a technological fly by natural trial and error .

[DWB]

And let me guess, if you smash a mosquito drone, which is property of the US Government, it will land you in prison for quite some time for destruction of Federal property.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by DWB

And let me guess, if you smash a mosquito drone, which is property of the US Government, it will land you in prison for quite some time for destruction of Federal property.

Assault on a police officer.

[janosik]

Fuck spy drones!

[shimmy2]

america, wtf happened. glad to live where the mosquitos are real

[MediaGuy]

[SomeCreep]

Its only a matter of time until insect camera drones are common place.

[V_RocKs]

1984....

[Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE]

My cats will take that fucking thing out.

[Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I'm selling tin foil hats on special this week. LOL

Been home lately George?

[johnnyloadproductions]

Just use and EMP and have several of them laying in certain area. Let them go off every now and then and it'll bring these suckers down.

[biskoppen]

I don't care, I've nothing to hide.

[Rochard]

Okay, so if there is thirty thousand of these fuckers... How many people are going to fly them around? And watch them? And monitor what they pick up? Not to mention the support staff. A little far fetched if you ask me.

Whatever. They can spy on me all day long. I would imagine my life is pretty fucking dull.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by biskoppen

I don't care, I've nothing to hide.

Then volunteer to allow the govt to place cameras strategically in your house, you've got nothing to hide.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Okay, so if there is thirty thousand of these fuckers... How many people are going to fly them around? And watch them? And monitor what they pick up? Not to mention the support staff. A little far fetched if you ask me.

Whatever. They can spy on me all day long. I would imagine my life is pretty fucking dull.

http://www.examiner.com/article/pent...e-12-violation

'In addition to needing people to watch countless hours of videos of targeted individuals' private lives taken by spy drones, the Pentagon is conducting a recruitment campaign for 1400 more people to operate its growing fleet of flying surveillance robots, a violation of Article 12 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.'

[sandman!]

[Frank21]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Okay, so if there is thirty thousand of these fuckers... How many people are going to fly them around? And watch them? And monitor what they pick up? Not to mention the support staff. A little far fetched if you ask me.

Whatever. They can spy on me all day long. I would imagine my life is pretty fucking dull.

Ever heard of software?
You can program anything you like in software.

Just like the tens of millions of security cams....... are there tens of millions of people monitoring all this cams 24/7?
Nope just different kind of software runs it all from regular PC's from which simple motion detection software the most common is.

But you can of course make a simple program in the bugs which makes it follow a certain person on lets say 20 feet distance.

Or make a simple program to keep on flying in the dessert until it finds a certain shape in the dessert like a human being, a car or an American flag and if it detects something like that send an alert so that a supervisor can check it out.

Hell you can even program a small software program that detects only white people and follow them around on lets say 10 feet distance and keep zooming loud as a real insect and anoy the fuck out of white people only.

[livexxx]

You only need to wait for a crime and then rewind the video from that point. Just keep playing backwards until you find out where they live. The more footage you have, the further you can rewind. Job done, end of crime. Couple of big sats with hi-def video and a a shit load of floppy discs. The 8" ones, because the 5" dont store enough. I bet homeland have 12" by now in any case.

[Overload]

Originally Posted by MediaGuy

hah! just watched it on TV two days ago or so ... classic ...

OBEY! CONSUME! SLEEP!

yeah, a shame ... land of the free ... becomes more and more a big prison or some sick clone of east germany

[Dvae]

This is Obamas America!

Just shut up and take it!

[HerPimp]

Originally Posted by Dvae

This is Obamas America!

Just shut up and take it!

[TheSquealer]

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

http://www.examiner.com/article/pent...e-12-violation

'In addition to needing people to watch countless hours of videos of targeted individuals' private lives taken by spy drones, the Pentagon is conducting a recruitment campaign for 1400 more people to operate its growing fleet of flying surveillance robots, a violation of Article 12 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.'

Article 12:

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.

That's a bit vague, isn't it?

Where does a wiretap or reading someone's email come into play under that article?

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Frank21

Ever heard of software?
You can program anything you like in software.

Just like the tens of millions of security cams....... are there tens of millions of people monitoring all this cams 24/7?
Nope just different kind of software runs it all from regular PC's from which simple motion detection software the most common is.

But you can of course make a simple program in the bugs which makes it follow a certain person on lets say 20 feet distance.

Or make a simple program to keep on flying in the dessert until it finds a certain shape in the dessert like a human being, a car or an American flag and if it detects something like that send an alert so that a supervisor can check it out.

Hell you can even program a small software program that detects only white people and follow them around on lets say 10 feet distance and keep zooming loud as a real insect and anoy the fuck out of white people only.

I'm sure there are in fact tens of millions of security cameras, but there aren't tens of million of people monitoring them constantly. In fact, no one monitors them at all. They just record footage in case there is ever a need for it, say in the event of a robbery.

There's a huge difference between a security camera and one of these little drones. Security cameras are watching a location "in case something happens", where as a drone would have to be physically assigned to watch someone - there would have to be a reason for the government to assign a drone to someone, and someone would have to watch all of that footage live or otherwise to see if they found what they were looking for.

I'm sure they could program them so that they could follow someone. But they would still have to have someone watch the footage to see if a crime was committed.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

This is something I don't understand about Politics in the US. I mean, clearly Obama came to office and decided to have these drones made because he's concerned about watching over Americans. Clearly we invented this technology in the past three years, so Obama must be the one behind it. LOL.

Don't people understand that such programs started ten or fifteen years ago - or longer - and was under the supervision of both parties?

Here, in fact, it seems that Bush was the one who signed off on giving civilian law enforcement the ability and means to use such technology?

Congress first authorized Customs and Border Protection to buy unarmed Predators in 2005. Officials in charge of the fleet cite broad authority to work with police from budget requests to Congress that cite ?interior law enforcement support? as part of their mission.

http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2011/...ic-operations/

So maybe we should bashing the Bush White House and not the current administration, because this shit started long before Obama. In fact, I'm guessing it started before Bush Jr took office too.

[Mr Pheer]

If you live in Las Vegas, there have been drones spotted over the Desert Shores community. Normaly between 5am - 7am when the wind is calm.

I'm laying low for the next few days though because yesterday my neighbors spotted it landing into my backyard.

[John-ACWM]

Science fiction is right at our door steps.

[Freaky_Akula]

Land of the free

[bronco67]

That's CGI you dumbasses.

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by bronco67

That's CGI you dumbasses.

Actually, its just CG.

CGI is a script running on your server.

[Freaky_Akula]

Bronco, you are missing the point you dumbass.

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by Freaky_Akula

Bronco, you are missing the point you dumbass.

yes the point is people are under the false impression that their private lives and what they do at home is so significant and important that it warrants a governing body to constantly monitor us and that this fear should have us all hide under our beds and pray for superman to save us from this monster.

if they ever did? wouldn't even matter because the people monitoring wouldn't last a week before they all killed themselves because of the monotony of the average persons life..

[mavruda]

I guess these things are not spying the ordinary people... or do they....
What would they need to spy for anyway ? How do we eat, sleep have sex, going to work- making money ? What ?

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by mavruda

I guess these things are not spying the ordinary people... or do they....
What would they need to spy for anyway ? How do we eat, sleep have sex, going to work- making money ? What ?

They can follow me all they want. They can watch me all they want. They'll see I went to the body shop at 8am, then Mcdonald's. I'll be leaving shortly for Staples for some office supplies, and then tonight after hours I'll head off to the bank. Pretty fucking boring stuff.

[Yanks_Todd]

[QUOTE=SuckOnThis;19009821]

This is an old version, the newest model is made completely of flesh and sucks blood vs. just DNA, the worst thing is the itchy welt they leave after the bit and get this.....there aren't 30k V2s out there folks there are billions....

[SiMpLe]

This is going to be the real life Terminator movies!!

[PR_Glen]

[QUOTE=Yanks_Todd;19011932]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

This is an old version, the newest model is made completely of flesh and sucks blood vs. just DNA, the worst thing is the itchy welt they leave after the bit and get this.....there aren't 30k V2s out there folks there are billions....

now that's fuckin hilarious...