my guess as to what Romney is hiding

[Joshua G]

i bet his tax returns show that he was a resident of utah while running for governor of massachussetts, & therefore should not have been eligible to be a candidate in their governors race.

either that, or he has been hiding money outside the USA to avoid taxation.

whatever it is, it's bad, & will kill his campaign if disclosed.

[Helix]

Or maybe he isn't really a US citizen, or maybe a radical Muslim, or maybe he is affiliated with US terrorist groups, or maybe he is a globalist on a mission to drag the US down to the level of a third world country, or maybe he wants to incarcerate all MMJ users, or maybe he will promise everything and deliver nothing until the elections get close and then he will throw niche groups a bone to get their vote. Maybe.

[Kevin Marx]

Originally Posted by Helix

Or maybe he isn't really a US citizen, or maybe a radical Muslim, or maybe he is affiliated with US terrorist groups, or maybe he is a globalist on a mission to drag the US down to the level of a third world country, or maybe he wants to incarcerate all MMJ users, or maybe he will promise everything and deliver nothing until the elections get close and then he will throw niche groups a bone to get their vote. Maybe.

That's just funny.... nicely done

[directfiesta]

When John McCain vetted him for VP , he supplied 23 years of tax returns ... McCain selected Sarah Palin ... Make you go ... hummmmmmmmmm !!!!

[Freaky_Akula]

Barry got away with hiding his birth certificate.

[epitome]

Did you know that Romney's father is why politicians voluntarily release tax returns today? You'd think he'd follow in his dad's tradition... Unless he has something to hide.

[Dvae]

Originally Posted by joshgirls

i bet his tax returns show that he was a resident of utah while running for governor of massachussetts, & therefore should not have been eligible to be a candidate in their governors race.

either that, or he has been hiding money outside the USA to avoid taxation.

whatever it is, it's bad, & will kill his campaign if disclosed.

If Obama is any example of what hiding shit about your past does for you, not only should he hide whatever it is but kill anybody who gets in his way or knows too much.

Its strange that it bothers you about anybody else but as long as its Obama its all good.

[Zoxxa]

Soooooooo tired of American politics, its no surprise all your daytime soap operas have been cancelled, you have this horse shit to keep all of you entertained. Democrat / Republican, who gives a fuck, find ANYONE in your country that has an ounce of class that can bring back some respect to your country.

[blackmonsters]

People in this thread who still think Obama didn't provide a birth certificate are looney.

He provided it before he ever ran; then wack jobs said that's not it provide a long form and
he did that too.

Fucking retards are still stuck on stupid about the birth certificate.

[slapass]

Originally Posted by Zoxxa

Soooooooo tired of American politics, its no surprise all your daytime soap operas have been cancelled, you have this horse shit to keep all of you entertained. Democrat / Republican, who gives a fuck, find ANYONE in your country that has an ounce of class that can bring back some respect to your country.

QFT

[Zoxxa]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

People in this thread who still think Obama didn't provide a birth certificate are looney.

He provided it before he ever ran; then wack jobs said that's not it provide a long form and
he did that too.

Fucking retards are still stuck on stupid about the birth certificate.

I agree, but to take this one step further, is this really what all of you should be worried about? You or your neighbor are losing their house, your kids are hungry, you can't find work, you get sick and have to pay for it but can't afford it, you are in wars you don't even know about, your life savings are being thrown down the drain by 22 yr old MIT students on wall street who don't give a fuck about you.

Nope, who gives a flying fuck about all that, we should discuss the president's birth certificate.

[kane]

Originally Posted by joshgirls

i bet his tax returns show that he was a resident of utah while running for governor of massachussetts, & therefore should not have been eligible to be a candidate in their governors race.

either that, or he has been hiding money outside the USA to avoid taxation.

whatever it is, it's bad, & will kill his campaign if disclosed.

I don't think it is a state citizenship issue, that might be easy to cover up or convince people otherwise. I think it is all about his money and where he is hiding it and/or what he is doing with it to avoid paying taxes. It would look really bad for him if it came out that he ended up paying an effective tax rate of like 5% or something crazy like that, or if it showed him dumping money offshore.

Either way this is terrible for him. Imagine if they get to the debates and Obama asks him live on stage why he isn't releasing them. There is no good answer.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Zoxxa

I agree, but to take this one step further, is this really what all of you should be worried about? You or your neighbor are losing their house, your kids are hungry, you can't find work, you get sick and have to pay for it but can't afford it, you are in wars you don't even know about, your life savings are being thrown down the drain by 22 yr old MIT students on wall street who don't give a fuck about you.

Nope, who gives a flying fuck about all that, we should discuss the president's birth certificate.

These dumb MoFos talk about what they can understand :

"did somebody hand over a piece of paper that they can't even read".

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by joshgirls

or he has been hiding money outside the USA to avoid taxation.

whatever it is, it's bad, & will kill his campaign if disclosed.

Weird...when I was younger, NOBODY wanted to pay taxes.
The Federal govt. was something that none of us trusted.
The media questioned "big brother" govt. at every turn.

Now...if a guy is rich and wants to keep more of HIS OWN money, it's a bad thing? And the media are all 1000% pro-federal govt.?

I guess I'm just getting old. But it sure seems strange to me. I'm of the "old school" opinion of FUCK THE GOVT. and their wasteful bullshit. But that's just my opinion.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by kane

Imagine if they get to the debates and Obama asks him live on stage why he isn't releasing them. There is no good answer.

Wouldn't it be cool if just ONCE a politician would just answer: "It's none of your goddamn business? Now can we please talk about the issues and why I think I can do a good job running the country?"

But that will never happen in our political arena.

Republicans and Democrats will just keep playing the misdirection game while the country is going FOUR BILLION DOLLARS FURTHER IN DEBT EVERY DAY.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Actually, he has not yet shown it

You're an idiot.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by Dvae

Its strange that it bothers you about anybody else but as long as its Obama its all good.

comments like this is why political discussion is toxic. What in my comment makes you think you know my position on obama's disclosures? do i need to put an asterick in my sig, stating that i support disclosure from both sides of the isle? where do you come off putting words in my mouth, or assuming you know my positions on obama when i didnt mention him at all. did you know im a moderate republican, exactly like the old romney?

nice avatar, but your a fucking twit.

[jigg]

Romney made his money shipping jobs to China

[Brujah]

What is Romney hiding in his offshore bank accounts? Money, of course.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

People in this thread who still think Obama didn't provide a birth certificate are looney.

He provided it before he ever ran; then wack jobs said that's not it provide a long form and
he did that too.

Fucking retards are still stuck on stupid about the birth certificate.

yep. i have no idea why obama is even coming up in this thread. this is a simple discussion speculating what romney might be hiding. the birthers are known freaks, unemployed neocons, dead enders as cheney would say.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by kane

I don't think it is a state citizenship issue, that might be easy to cover up or convince people otherwise. I think it is all about his money and where he is hiding it and/or what he is doing with it to avoid paying taxes. It would look really bad for him if it came out that he ended up paying an effective tax rate of like 5% or something crazy like that, or if it showed him dumping money offshore.

Either way this is terrible for him. Imagine if they get to the debates and Obama asks him live on stage why he isn't releasing them. There is no good answer.

after i wrote the thread, it occurred to me that the money & taxes angle is much more plausible.

But apparently his residency was a topic in the MA governors race, he had to prove to MA he was living in MA by showing he still ran bain after 99.

[epitome]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Weird...when I was younger, NOBODY wanted to pay taxes.
The Federal govt. was something that none of us trusted.
The media questioned "big brother" govt. at every turn.

Now...if a guy is rich and wants to keep more of HIS OWN money, it's a bad thing? And the media are all 1000% pro-federal govt.?

I guess I'm just getting old. But it sure seems strange to me. I'm of the "old school" opinion of FUCK THE GOVT. and their wasteful bullshit. But that's just my opinion.

This is what Stephen King has to say on Romney and his taxes:

Mitt Romney has said, in effect, ?I?m rich and I don?t apologize for it.? Nobody wants you to, Mitt. What some of us want?those who aren?t blinded by a lot of bullshit persiflage thrown up to mask the idea that rich folks want to keep their damn money?is for you to acknowledge that you couldn?t have made it in America without America. That you were fortunate enough to be born in a country where upward mobility is possible (a subject upon which Barack Obama can speak with the authority of experience), but where the channels making such upward mobility possible are being increasingly clogged. That it?s not fair to ask the middle class to assume a disproportionate amount of the tax burden. Not fair? It?s un-fucking-American is what it is. I don?t want you to apologize for being rich; I want you to acknowledge that in America, we all should have to pay our fair share.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Weird...when I was younger, NOBODY wanted to pay taxes.
The Federal govt. was something that none of us trusted.
The media questioned "big brother" govt. at every turn.

Now...if a guy is rich and wants to keep more of HIS OWN money, it's a bad thing? And the media are all 1000% pro-federal govt.?

I guess I'm just getting old. But it sure seems strange to me. I'm of the "old school" opinion of FUCK THE GOVT. and their wasteful bullshit. But that's just my opinion.

that would be well & good if he was not running for POTUS. Then your 100% right.

But a guy that has a 50/50 shot at executing the laws of the land should not try to dodge the laws he has to enforce. That sort of undermines the rule of law, when the leader of the country is trying to avoid them.

if it really is just a tax loophole & not something more insidious, he is making a blunder dragging this out. Hence i gotta think there is a big problem he is not wanting to disclose. Hence this thread. what would that be?

[Joshua G]

i guess another way to say it is...you jaywalk, & a cop busts your balls for jaywalking. 10 minutes later, you witness the cop jaywalking. What would you think of the cop?

for any position not enforcing laws, by all means keep those taxes down. its a higher standard when your the cop.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by joshgirls

But a guy that has a 50/50 shot at executing the laws of the land should not try to dodge the laws he has to enforce.

Just because he took advantage of every tax loophole available to him does not mean he is dodging any law.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Wouldn't it be cool if just ONCE a politician would just answer: "It's none of your goddamn business? Now can we please talk about the issues and why I think I can do a good job running the country?"

But that will never happen in our political arena.

Republicans and Democrats will just keep playing the misdirection game while the country is going FOUR BILLION DOLLARS FURTHER IN DEBT EVERY DAY.

That would be classic. It might actually score some points for him and get him some support as well.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by joshgirls

that would be well & good if he was not running for POTUS.

But a guy that has a 50/50 shot at executing the laws of the land should not try to dodge the laws he has to enforce. That sort of undermines the rule of law, when the leader of the country is trying to avoid them.

My thought is..I don't care what he does with HIS money. I care what he will or won't do with OUR money.

The economy is in shambles. We have troops all over the world occupying other people's countries and calling it "freedom". We are getting searched at airports.

Meanwhile Congress just tried to go after...Roger Clemens again.
And there is talk that they may go after Lance Armstrong next.


And the media circus has us all in a tither about Obama's birth certificate, where Romney chooses to put his money, Romney with a dog on the roof of his car and Obama eating a dog...
WTF?!?!?

And really...when has ANY president in modern times actually "executed the laws of the land".

To me all of this is just b.s. and misdirection.

Obama or Romney...nothing much will change. I don't see a whole lot of difference between Obama and Bush. They both spend money like drunken sailors. They both have our military occupying countries and killing people worldwide.

The only differences between them that I see are on the little things that don't really matter.

I'd like to see a president put an end to "The Patriot Act". Stop our country from meddling in other countries affairs (is it REALLY our place to try and force The Netherlands to make pot illegal and prostitution illegal? REALLY?)

I'd like to see the TSA completely shut down. What a waste of time and money. They aren't stopping "terrorists" from doing anything.
What happened on 9-11 was addressed the minute they put a locked steel door on the pilot's cabin. That can never happen again.

Can a plane get blown up by a crazy person? Yes.

Has the TSA caught and stopped even ONE person with a bomb? No.

Have they arrested a lot of people with a joint or a gram of coke in their pocket. Yes.

I want my freedom back. I don't give a fuck what Obama or Romney or anybody else does in their private lives. I care about how good of a LEADER they can be (or not be in this case)

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by kane

That would be classic. It might actually score some points for him and get him some support as well.

Don't hold your breath. Neither Romney or any other politician will EVER do it.

Obama and Romney have a team of handlers who write everything they say and do and carefully test it out with polling before it's ever put out there.

Hell, the only guy who shot from the hip was Ron Paul. And the media immediately painted him to be "crazy".

So if I were Obama or Romney I'd probably do what they do...and just follow my team of handlers and advisers and stick to the safe script.

But it sure would be nice wouldn't it to hear some truth for once.

I still think when Clinton was in office he should have just told everyone: "Hell yes! I love women! Now what the fuck does that have to do with my policies? NOTHING. So stop talking about stupid shit" lol

[GetSCORECash]

Originally Posted by Zoxxa

I agree, but to take this one step further, is this really what all of you should be worried about? You or your neighbor are losing their house, your kids are hungry, you can't find work, you get sick and have to pay for it but can't afford it, you are in wars you don't even know about, your life savings are being thrown down the drain by 22 yr old MIT students on wall street who don't give a fuck about you.

Nope, who gives a flying fuck about all that, we should discuss the president's birth certificate.

I would prefer to be talking about who is giving him head, this time of the month and if she is a blond or has big tits.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Don't hold your breath. Neither Romney or any other politician will EVER do it.

Obama and Romney have a team of handlers who write everything they say and do and carefully test it out with polling before it's ever put out there.

Hell, the only guy who shot from the hip was Ron Paul. And the media immediately painted him to be "crazy".

So if I were Obama or Romney I'd probably do what they do...and just follow my team of handlers and advisers and stick to the safe script.

But it sure would be nice wouldn't it to hear some truth for once.

I still think when Clinton was in office he should have just told everyone: "Hell yes! I love women! Now what the fuck does that have to do with my policies? NOTHING. So stop talking about stupid shit" lol

There is a show on HBO called Veep. It stars Julia Louis-Dreyfus as the Vice President of the United States. It is a comedy and at times seems a little absurd, but parts of it are very real.

For example, a poll shows that people would like her better if she had a dog so she decides to get one. She tells everyone she is going to let her daughter pick out what they get. Meanwhile, they hold a huge discussion and do research to decide what kind of dog she is going to get. In another episode she decides to visit a local frozen yogurt shop and they hold a meeting to decide which flavor yogurt she should get.

Any high level politician is so embedded with their team of handlers that it seems like their every move is meant to gain them favor with some group or another.

What is sad is that Romney was 100% correct during the primaries when he was asked if all the bad blood and muck raking in the primaries would hurt him in the general election and he said it was all kind of like an etch a sketch and you just shake it up and start from scratch. He caught hell of that, but he was right. Nobody remembers any of that, the polls show them dead even (although the electoral college is hugely slanted in Obama's favor at this point). Romney was right and that shortsightedness and willingness to forget or be apathetic is what has gotten us nothing but garbage candidates.

I think part of the reason Perot was so popular when he ran was because he was pretty honest. He broke out his charts and said, "Look, here's the problem. Here is how we are going to fix it. It's going to suck for a while as we fix it, but it will better afterwards." People related to that.

[sleazydoesit]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

People in this thread who still think Obama didn't provide a birth certificate are looney.

He provided it before he ever ran; then wack jobs said that's not it provide a long form and
he did that too.

Fucking retards are still stuck on stupid about the birth certificate.

I try to ignore American politics, but my Republican dad insists on sending me all these idiotic fucking email forwards from his got-nothing-better-to-do old white Republican pals who circulate that shit like it's actually "news".

Ask any old white conservative about Obama and they'll regurgitate all kinds of bullshit that they've been tricked into believing because they read it in a fucking email forward! I used to go to great lengths to prove to my dad that all the emails are bullshit, but it's just so exhausting I've given up.

I do still occasionally send him links to snopes articles, though. That part is easy.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

When John McCain vetted him for VP , he supplied 23 years of tax returns ... McCain selected Sarah Palin ... Make you go ... hummmmmmmmmm !!!!

No I think it was Mc Cain who supplied that many tax returns. Mc Cain hated Romney, he wanted Joe Lieberman for his running mate. But rove was putting pressure for Romney so he basically said fuck you to him by picking Palin.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Robbie

My thought is..I don't care what he does with HIS money. I care what he will or won't do with OUR money.

The economy is in shambles. We have troops all over the world occupying other people's countries and calling it "freedom". We are getting searched at airports.

Meanwhile Congress just tried to go after...Roger Clemens again.
And there is talk that they may go after Lance Armstrong next.


And the media circus has us all in a tither about Obama's birth certificate, where Romney chooses to put his money, Romney with a dog on the roof of his car and Obama eating a dog...
WTF?!?!?

And really...when has ANY president in modern times actually "executed the laws of the land".

To me all of this is just b.s. and misdirection.

Obama or Romney...nothing much will change. I don't see a whole lot of difference between Obama and Bush. They both spend money like drunken sailors. They both have our military occupying countries and killing people worldwide.

The only differences between them that I see are on the little things that don't really matter.

I'd like to see a president put an end to "The Patriot Act". Stop our country from meddling in other countries affairs (is it REALLY our place to try and force The Netherlands to make pot illegal and prostitution illegal? REALLY?)

I'd like to see the TSA completely shut down. What a waste of time and money. They aren't stopping "terrorists" from doing anything.
What happened on 9-11 was addressed the minute they put a locked steel door on the pilot's cabin. That can never happen again.

Can a plane get blown up by a crazy person? Yes.

Has the TSA caught and stopped even ONE person with a bomb? No.

Have they arrested a lot of people with a joint or a gram of coke in their pocket. Yes.

I want my freedom back. I don't give a fuck what Obama or Romney or anybody else does in their private lives. I care about how good of a LEADER they can be (or not be in this case)

Alot of people think that way then they will change their tune when its their love one killed in a terrorist attack. Then they scream where was government?

[Verbal]

You guys are missing the bigger picture.

Republicans are constantly arguing that cutting taxes for the rich creates more jobs. This is a staple of the Romney campaign. If in fact it comes out that Romney is essentially hiding/sheltering his assets in an offshore account, it just goes to show that this is a bullshit theory and proves once again that trickle-down economics does not work.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Verbal

Republicans are constantly arguing that cutting taxes for the rich creates more jobs. This is a staple of the Romney campaign.

It's bullshit that only idiots believe.

A business is only going to hire or expand if there is a NEED. You can raise and lower taxes all day long, but if their own market (cars, finance, manufacturing, etc.) is not seeing growth... it's a fools errand.

Taxes may play 'some' part in the equation, but its' a very small one. If there is confidence, growth and stability in the marketplace, companies will expand. It really is that simple.

[Freaky_Akula]

Originally Posted by Robbie

I'm of the "old school" opinion of FUCK THE GOVT. and their wasteful bullshit.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

It's bullshit that only idiots believe.

A business is only going to hire or expand if there is a NEED. You can raise and lower taxes all day long, but if their own market (cars, finance, manufacturing, etc.) is not seeing growth... it's a fools errand.

Taxes may play 'some' part in the equation, but its' a very small one. If there is confidence, growth and stability in the marketplace, companies will expand. It really is that simple.

I agree with what you say, but I believe you may have missed my point.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by baddog

Just because he took advantage of every tax loophole available to him does not mean he is dodging any law.

that's true.

but he's making a big mistake if he's just trying to shelter legal activity. there really is no reason. its pretty well known he pays lower tax rates then everyone who actually works in the USA.

i suspect he is tax dodging (aka it is not a legal loophole), or something in his taxes undermines a campaign position, maybe the residency issue.

politics aside...seems like anytime a pol wants to keep a secret, the truth is always ugly when it comes out. No pol keeps secrets just to seem mysterious.

this thread is all a speculation, all in good fun. so until romney comes clean, people are going to speculate the worst you know?

[Joshua G]

hey robbie. you are quite libertarian & i certainly agree with a lot of your points. thing is, part of being in a country with such enormous wealth, & has such a massive legal system, is that the government is looked to to solve every problem in life.

example - katrina kills new orleans...its new orleans fault being located below sea level, but their population (plus the public too by virtue of public opinion polls) demands that the government solve their crisis.

somewhere in the political media it is pointed out the public wants it both ways - low taxes, but unlimited services. politicians cant win either way. but when facing a crisis, the pols on both sides will spend money as the bottom line, because deficits & tax rates can be kicked down the road, as has been happening for a while now.

my personal beef with romney is his tin ear on his tax rates. he has flaunted that he is paying what the law requires & thats enough for him. He never empathizes that people who make crumbs compared to him have to pay higher tax rates, & (to me) there is a problem when a 100 millionaire has a lower tax rate then people who can barely afford to make ends meet. He seems to have no concern about that basic unfairness, & therefore does not relate to the common man. at least obama smoked pot.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

It's bullshit that only idiots believe.

A business is only going to hire or expand if there is a NEED. You can raise and lower taxes all day long, but if their own market (cars, finance, manufacturing, etc.) is not seeing growth... it's a fools errand.

Taxes may play 'some' part in the equation, but its' a very small one. If there is confidence, growth and stability in the marketplace, companies will expand. It really is that simple.

yep. when i still hear pundits on fox news or fox business say that we can tax cut our way to prosperity, i wonder if they had been on gilligans island through this past decade.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by Verbal

You guys are missing the bigger picture.

Republicans are constantly arguing that cutting taxes for the rich creates more jobs. This is a staple of the Romney campaign. If in fact it comes out that Romney is essentially hiding/sheltering his assets in an offshore account, it just goes to show that this is a bullshit theory and proves once again that trickle-down economics does not work.

personally i dont connect the 2 policies, as tax dodging to me is a separate matter as to whether trickle down works. at this point anyone who still believes in the trickle down should just hop on the short bus to cheneytown. If he is dodging taxes, it speaks to his ethics. AKA he is no different then every rich person who is looking out for themselves & just gaming the system to their benefit.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Yup, when you're a hammer (the government), then every problem looks like a nail. If society progresses at all in the next hundred years people will look back at our times and think "how the FUCK did people ever do that? Or wanted a government? Primitive people!"

i dont think its possible to have a small government anymore. not when politicians are making decisions with trillion dollar figures at their disposal. The washington pols seem to think there is unlimited money supply & the fed will fix everything, someday.

my opinion is that george w bush has a historical equivalency to roman emperor commodus...they guy who started the fall of the empire.

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by jigg

Romney made his money shipping jobs to China

Of course the fact that pretty much every top Democrat has offshore accounts and offshore investments shouldn't matter, right? Meanwhile Obama used $29 BILLION of OTHER peoples money, (i.e. yours and mine) to send jobs overseas. At least Romney used his own cash.

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by joshgirls

every rich person who is looking out for themselves & just gaming the system to their benefit.

And every middle class and poor persona is as pure as the driven snow. They only think of others, and never try to "game the system" to their benefit.


Just remember, if someone becomes successful, they are now evil.





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[JFK]

fitty hidden things

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

And every middle class and poor persona is as pure as the driven snow. They only think of others, and never try to "game the system" to their benefit.


Just remember, if someone becomes successful, they are now evil.





.

this really has nothing to do with class. i have this opinion that the corporate CEOs plus lobbyists & congressmen for sale have come together to outsource US jobs to china, to cut cap gains to the bone, to deregulate many facets of the economy, all in the name of increasing wealth for the wealthy class alone.

Should trickle down have been true, the amazing wealth growth at the top (they are still the only class whose recovered from the recession) should have resulted in large job growth for the middle class.

It did create lots of jobs, but only in places where corporations now depend on for growth, china. Mitt Romney looks like a guy who has sent jobs elsewhere & is possibly illegally hiding money, so he makes more & more for himself.

He has yet to say a word to change my mind on this, & hiding his taxes is not helping!

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by tony286

No I think it was Mc Cain who supplied that many tax returns. Mc Cain hated Romney, he wanted Joe Lieberman for his running mate. But rove was putting pressure for Romney so he basically said fuck you to him by picking Palin.

Sorry: wrong

"Mitt Romney is the most secretive candidate we've seen since Richard Nixon. Mitt Romney provided John McCain 23 years worth of returns when he was being vetted for vice president but he's only shared with the American people one year worth of returns," said Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt on Fox News Friday.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1672110.html

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by tony286

Alot of people think that way then they will change their tune when its their love one killed in a terrorist attack. Then they scream where was government?

We didn't need them back in the 60's and 70's and 80's when "terrorists" were actually hijacking jet liners several times a year, killing people and blowing up planes in mid-air.

My opinion is that the federal govt. used what happened on 9-11 to do a lot of things they had always wanted to do...especially searching people going on an airplane looking for drugs.

And I believe if I ever heard an actual human being standing in front of me screaming "where was govt." I'd probably punch 'em right in the face. lol

[2012]

the salami

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by kane

What is sad is that Romney was 100% correct during the primaries when he was asked if all the bad blood and muck raking in the primaries would hurt him in the general election and he said it was all kind of like an etch a sketch and you just shake it up and start from scratch. He caught hell of that, but he was right.

Actually, he didn't say that.
The guy in charge of his campaign said it in a dumb moment. Exactly the kind of thing that he and the rest of the political team try to keep their candidate from ever saying.

Originally Posted by joshgirls

hey robbie. you are quite libertarian

I kinda think it's weird that I have to be a Libertarian. I feel like I'm just looking at things with some common sense.

Nobody gave a fuck that JFK was 1000 times richer than Romney is. Or that the Kennedy family wealth was based off of bootlegging during Prohibition. Or that Kennedy was fucking dozens of girls behind his wife's back. Or that they had a bazillion dollars in Swiss bank accounts and businesses around the world (outsourcing lol) Who cares???

What was important was his ideas for the country.

That is what we should be looking at.
Do you think Obama has the right idea and vision for the country or do you think Romney does?
That should be the ONLY question.

But that doesn't draw ratings for CNN, FOX, MSNBC, etc.

So the campaigns go into stupid mode to get coverage and win over voters who are dumbed down by reality t.v.

I don't think it's really being Libertarian to expect our elections to be a step above an episode of "Jersey Shore"
Look at what is going on in the country and the world.
And we're all served up a bunch of misdirection that has NOTHING to do with the direction of the country and fixing the economy.