I Will Off Myself Before I Get Too Old

[Failed]

I've posted about my grandmother going into a home before on this board. Here is a little update to what's been going on.

My grandmother was placed into a home where costs have skyrocketed from $100 a day to between $400 and $600 a day because of her care requirements. I spent a total of $75,000 to keep her cared for and her home going. The home is now the property of the facility she's been placed at due to lack of funds. I sold my home and moved into her house, so I'm being pushed out the door and will be 33 living at my parents house for a few months .

I gladly did this for my grandmother because she took me in when I needed a home at the age of 15/16. She never asked me to, it was all voluntary on my part. So, the fact that I'm broke was of my choosing. Broke until some checks roll in and a few months of living with mommy, lol.

When I get old and there is the first sign of my requiring care that I can't provide myself, I'm putting my mouth over the barrel. No one should have to go through what I just did to care for me, I won't let that happen!

I wish we, as a country, gave our elderly better care than we do. If anyone deserves free and competent care it's our children and our elders.

[Failed]

By the way, if you're looking for an amazing business opportunity, think elder care. It's amazing the amount of elder care facilities that have sprung up around the cities. With the baby boomers going up in age it's a gold mine! When I get back on my feet I think I'll look into opening a home with a few rooms to start off and expanding from there. I definitely have some knowledge and experience now after going through this ordeal.

[adultdomainseller]

Failed....

[johnnyloadproductions]

Glad to see you taking care of your own.

My dad is the money maker of his litter, not that he's real rich but he does well as a senior engineer (didn't like management).
He grew up on a 100 acre farm in Iowa and to help subsidize the nursing home fees they lease the farmland out to others to farm (best soil in the world around here).
She's been in the nursing home for over 10 years now and it's cost right around $500k or so for everything.

Children may be a burden initially but they eventually turn in to people (hopefully good ones) and if you have any good sense and care (as well as the other biological parent) there's a high chance they'll act the same toward you.

[johnnyloadproductions]

Originally Posted by Failed

By the way, if you're looking for an amazing business opportunity, think elder care. It's amazing the amount of elder care facilities that have sprung up around the cities. With the baby boomers going up in age it's a gold mine! When I get back on my feet I think I'll look into opening a home with a few rooms to start off and expanding from there. I definitely have some knowledge and experience now after going through this ordeal.

True, nursing is big.

As a whole though for human kind I can't help but think that only looking for money in health care is idle. Curing disease and finding treatments is advancement but only to an extent.

I honestly think any applied science (engineering) is the way for humanity to go.

[AllAboutCams]

i think i will rent a porsche and rap it around a tree

[johnnyloadproductions]

Originally Posted by xxxupdate

i think i will rent a porsche and rap it around a tree

Better yet, take out a mortgage (if they even let you) and get something even more exotic!

[mineistaken]

500$ - thats a rip off, like most of the US health care bills

[Failed]

Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions

Glad to see you taking care of your own.

I wish everyone would. It's sad to see parents or grandparents that struggled to take care of their children abandoned when they need care.

Originally Posted by xxxupdate

i think i will rent a porsche and rap it around a tree

Haha! You're right, I didn't put enough thought into the whole offing myself plan. Something extravagant is the way to go!

[helterskelter808]

So first you, quite rightly, complain about treatment of the elderly and how it should be 'free' (available to all). Then you immediately follow it up with a totally cynical post about how you're going to exploit the elderly and their relatives yourself because there's big money in it.

[johnnyloadproductions]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

500$ - thats a rip off, like most of the US health care bills

$500k for 10 years though. I think it was $36-40k for the nursing home but between everything else that's had to be done it's easily $50k.
10*50 = 500

If you want to make money become a nurse anesthetist. 5-6 years but out of school you start at $140-160k a year now.


If you want to make a lot of money, own your own business and be good at it.

[The Heron]

What is the reason people believe they have to care for super ederly people?
I see no reason for it, I don't care how old I am if I need someone else to 'care' for me and I can't do anything useful or fun... wtf just end it. There is no biological imperative to keep super old people around!

[helterskelter808]

There's no biological imperative for knocking one out into a tube sock either.

[Failed]

By the way, if you're looking for an amazing business opportunity, think elder care. It's amazing the amount of elder care facilities that have sprung up around the cities. With the baby boomers going up in age it's a gold mine! When I get back on my feet I think I'll look into opening a home with a few rooms to start off and expanding from there. I definitely have some knowledge and experience now after going through this ordeal.

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

So first you, quite rightly, complain about treatment of the elderly and how it should be 'free' (available to all). Then you immediately follow it up with a totally cynical post about how you're going to exploit the elderly and their relatives yourself because there's big money in it.

I never once said I would "exploit the elderly and their relatives", don't put words in my mouth. I was thinking it would be a good business investment and potential gold mine due to the number of people that would require care, not because I would charge them absurd amounts of money.

Plus, it would be something I would love to do, provide the elderly with care, because I think I could do it better and show them the respect they deserve and make them feel like they still have integrity and use.

[L-Pink]

You're a good man.

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[Harmon]

Looks like Failed..... just failed (click the glasses)

[BIGTYMER]

Originally Posted by The Heron

What is the reason people believe they have to care for super ederly people?
I see no reason for it, I don't care how old I am if I need someone else to 'care' for me and I can't do anything useful or fun... wtf just end it. There is no biological imperative to keep super old people around!

And I thought I was cold.. Jesus man. What were you raised by wolves?

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by Failed

I never once said I would "exploit the elderly and their relatives", don't put words in my mouth. I was thinking it would be a good business investment and potential gold mine due to the number of people that would require care, not because I would charge them absurd amounts of money.

Plus, it would be something I would love to do, provide the elderly with care, because I think I could do it better and show them the respect they deserve and make them feel like they still have integrity and use.

Fair enough. I just think (generally, not making this point to you) it's sad that everything has to be about making a buck. Care should be about care, not profit, and should be freely available for everyone, regardless of income.

[Rochard]

I also thought I would end up dead before I was thirty. Then I discovered that being thirty was so much more fun. Then came forty - and it was ten times more fun. Life just gets better and better.

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I also thought I would end up dead before I was thirty. Then I discovered that being thirty was so much more fun. Then came forty - and it was ten times more fun. Life just gets better and better.

[BIGTYMER]

Originally Posted by Harmon

[Barry-xlovecam]

Sorry about your Grandmother's situation but you won't off yourself when you get old. When you are near death, and without terminal disease -- you'll cling on because what little is left will seem precious to you unless you are Alzheimer's demented then it won't matter much.

Being a vegetable at life's end is the real issue -- Dr. Kevorkian's prison sentence settled that. However, if the state denies you a dignified self-inflicted death they should pay the end game cost willingly.

[marcop]

From today's NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/22/o...=1&ref=opinion

[ottopottomouse]

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

And I thought I was cold.. Jesus man. What were you raised by wolves?

It's a valid point.

Modern standards of living and medication are keeping peoples bodies alive a lot longer than they work properly for so a large proportion of elderly people gradually regress physically and mentally back towards being an infant, getting to a point where they need constant looking after and don't have a clue what's going on. No quality of life there and too late to ask to be shot.

[GAMEFINEST]

im going to burst a nut before i die

[Best-In-BC]

Or you could just follow Canada in government controlled health care and you would save your self alot. But please, enjoy the worse healthcare system in the world ;)

[ShoeBox]

Wait a minute last time you were talkinga bout this didn't you say your mother? remember i replied to you talking about it maybe it was your grandma i swear it was your mom.

Anyways my friend , my mother had to put her father in the home as I was telling you before , and she had to pay for a private room because he doesn't / didn't get along with people and that would of just been a horrible mistake. bills piled up heavily we in america do need something for elder care besides having to pay it, my grandfather was a veteran etc they should help vets and older people have free living no matter what because without them we wouldn't even be here .

[Failed]

Originally Posted by ShoeBox

Wait a minute last time you were talkinga bout this didn't you say your mother? remember i replied to you talking about it maybe it was your grandma i swear it was your mom.

Anyways my friend , my mother had to put her father in the home as I was telling you before , and she had to pay for a private room because he doesn't / didn't get along with people and that would of just been a horrible mistake. bills piled up heavily we in america do need something for elder care besides having to pay it, my grandfather was a veteran etc they should help vets and older people have free living no matter what because without them we wouldn't even be here .

Man, I would be a piece of shit to make up stories like this. This is GFY though, so I dug up the thread for you, lol. https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1052620

I agree with you on the vets. I think they should be taken care of from the time they enlist until their death. Good care, not the bullshit horror stories you hear about from VA hospitals.

[wehateporn]

At the first sign of aging lock yourself in a Walmart freezer for a couple of hundred years

[2012]

don't put off till tomorrow what you can get done today

[The Heron]

The reality is I don't believe in universal healthcare or universal elder care or really any universal plans to keep EVERYONE alive, I mean wtf great way to ruin natural selection and push humanity to disaster. This coming from someone with a genetic flaw that should have resulted in my death already without modern medicine and I will die long before I reach retirement age, I know my genes are flawed so I won't pass them on now but every fucking moron in the world thinks they are special and should live forever. That is just plain stupid.

[ErectMedia]

One reason I haven't quit smoking is I figure a shorter life with lots of money. If I quit then I'll live to 100 and deplete my 401k and investments. I'm guessing on the 100 due to my current healthy status and 110/70 blood pressure. Could be I'm addicted to cigarettes as well.

[Jel]

not sure how it works where you are but in the UK there's a safeguard procedure you can put in place so your home isn't sold to pay the bills of whatever elderly home they put you in. Can't remember the specifics, though if anyone is interested (and you should be, unless you want your parents/yourself to lose the house in old age) I'll dig out the infos.

[wehateporn]

Remember to keep off the old person's flu jab, as that's actually an excuse to inject the elderly with substances that gradually push them towards Alzheimer/dementia, this is to drain your life savings back into the system so as they don't get passed down to the next generation

"According to Hugh Fudenberg, MD, the world's leading immunogeneticist and 13th most quoted biologist of our times (nearly 850 papers in peer review journals), if an individual has had five consecutive flu shots between 1970 and 1980 (the years studied) his/her chances of getting Alzheimer's Disease is ten times higher than if they had one, two or no shots. I asked Dr. Fudenberg why this was so and he said it was due to the mercury and aluminum that is in every flu shot (and most childhood shots). The gradual mercury and aluminum buildup in the brain causes cognitive dysfunction. Is that why Alzheimer's is expected to quadruple? Notes: Recorded from Dr. Fudenberg's speech at the NVIC International Vaccine Conference, Arlington, VA September, 1997. Quoted with permission. Alzheimer's to quadruple statement is from John's Hopkins Newsletter Nov 1998." ----Ted Koren, D. C. http://www.odyssee.net/~expodome/autism.htm#Top Koren Publications (800-537-3001). "

http://www.whale.to/vaccines/flu11.html

[kane]

Are you in the US?

If so get her on medicaid. Since it sounds like has nothing left, but maybe social security checks they will take all but $150 of her social security check, but they will pay for her medicine, care and housing. Depending on the level of care she needs she might end up with a roommate, but that might be better than nothing.

[MediaGuy]

Actually I was watching an old episode of Law & Order the other night and Jerry Orbach, talking about his character's senile father getting incredibly paranoid, said something like "He thought my mother was trying to poison him. He would take his suppers and flush them down the toilet, and eat bird seed. If I ever get that way, take my gun and shoot me."

LOL not exact, and you have to hear Orbach say it...

:D

[BlackCrayon]

i don't know what province you live in but most will provide long term care for people who they determine they need it and in ontario, they can only charge a max of 1500/month for it.

also at 70 she can get a government subsidy if living in a retirement home that covers a good chunk of it.

[Spunky]

Define too old? I hope to make it to 70 at least

[bronco67]

No one can actually afford elderly care, except for the super rich. That's what medicare/medicaid is for. Even my in-laws, who in my eyes are pretty rich couldn't afford to have their parents taken care of for too long without jeopardizing their own financial security. They have a situation where her parents have lived well into their 90's.

[kane]

Originally Posted by bronco67

No one can actually afford elderly care, except for the super rich. That's what medicare/medicaid is for. Even my in-laws, who in my eyes are pretty rich couldn't afford to have their parents taken care of for too long without jeopardizing their own financial security. They have a situation where her parents have lived well into their 90's.

A friend of mine's wife is a chef. One of the first jobs she had out of culinary school was working at a elderly assisted living center. This place was state of the art, very nice and had three sections each with its own chef to make meals for each person on an individual basis. Depending on the level of care you needed it cost anywhere from $10K to $17K per month.

The place where my mom now lives looks really nice, it is clean and they have a good staff and some great activities. The food is mass cooked, but you get your choice of two different things for each meal and the food is actually pretty good. It still costs between $4K and $7K per month depending on how much care you need. It is crazy expensive.

[Tjeezers]

In this country elderly stay home and being taken care for by their own children until they die in peace. Kind of cool knowing I will not end up having my ass cleaned ones a week by some dropout who needs extra cash and uses a high pressure water hose to give me that so called expensive treatment.

Just Google elderly care home abuse...

Makes you want to re-consider your opinion about this

[John-ACWM]

Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions

Better yet, take out a mortgage (if they even let you) and get something even more exotic!

[BAKO]

If u lived in Cali I don't think u would of had that problem.