I just watched this political documentary on PBS

[BFT3K]

The Choice 2012

very depressing....

[Paul Markham]

Watching it now, long and in depth. Every American should watch it.

[Paul Markham]

Thank you for showing that. Fascinating and revealing.

On one hand you have a man with a dream to improve things , naive, inexperienced and unable to bring people together. Unable to get things done and it seems unable to compromise.

On the other hand you have a man with strange deep religious beliefs, whose experienced in taking companies and turning them around and making them worth a lot more. By passing the stripped off assets onto others.

Neither in my opinion should be the leader of the free world.

Four more years of not doing anything. Or a man who who can't sack people, without having to deal with the consequences.

Neither of them have real experience in making things work or getting companies back on their feet, building something worth buying and employing people. While producing a profit for everyone.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Watching it now, long and in depth. Every American should watch it.

They should, but they won't, because they would rather watch some retarded reality show or sleep out for the latest iGadget. Most Americans know nothing about politics, who is in local office, how the system works, or that their children and grandchildren are being enslaved with all of this debt that is piling on. It is shameful.

[BIGTYMER]

Originally Posted by DWB

They should, but they won't, because they would rather watch some retarded reality show or sleep out for the latest iGadget. Most Americans know nothing about politics, who is in local office, how the system works, or that their children and grandchildren are being enslaved with all of this debt that is piling on. It is shameful.

You can't blame the people for being sheep.. That's how the system has shaped us. It's all one big show to keep us from seeing reality.

Johnny's a bad influence on me.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by DWB

They should, but they won't, because they would rather watch some retarded reality show or sleep out for the latest iGadget. Most Americans know nothing about politics, who is in local office, how the system works, or that their children and grandchildren are being enslaved with all of this debt that is piling on. It is shameful.

True. When I see them debate politics and policy here, intelligent people have absolutely no idea of the reality.

[SmutHammer]

Originally Posted by BFT3K

The Choice 2012

very depressing....

I usually hate everything I see you post, But have to give it to you on this one.

Nice find

[Tom_PM]

PBS *ALWAYS* runs great Frontline episodes and has lots of other amazing documentary and scientific shows like Nature and Nova. Even one of the Koch brothers agree's.. or his company does because they fund that stuff.

PBS is not a waste of money. Don't let chumps like Romney or Boehner make you think removing paltry public funding of PBS will in any noticable way reduce deficits. It's nonsensical chatter that wont save a dime and will remove great quality informative programming from people who can't afford to pay for 800 channels.

[SmutHammer]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

PBS *ALWAYS* runs great Frontline episodes and has lots of other amazing documentary and scientific shows like Nature and Nova. Even one of the Koch brothers agree's.. or his company does because they fund that stuff.

PBS is not a waste of money. Don't let chumps like Romney or Boehner make you think removing paltry public funding of PBS will in any noticable way reduce deficits. It's nonsensical chatter that wont save a dime and will remove great quality informative programming from people who can't afford to pay for 800 channels.

PBS can afford to take care of themselves, The country is in debt, every penny counts. People say they want to do something about it, Yet nobody wants to cut anything...

Obama focusing on using Big Bird against Romney is a joke and confirms he shouldn't be in office.

[Tom_PM]

Yeah. It's a red herring. Cut one toilet seat off an air craft carrier instead, it'll save more. People like me used to be able to say "people aren't that stupid", but voters ARE that stupid these days.
(to not realise how little money goes to PBS versus REAL budget HOGS like the pentagon who are given MORE MONEY than they asked for. Talk about that.)

[Tom_PM]

By the way, it was Romney who brought up PBS, not Obama. Is responding to an actual comment out of bounds for Romney supporters? God we're doomed.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

PBS *ALWAYS* runs great Frontline episodes and has lots of other amazing documentary and scientific shows like Nature and Nova. Even one of the Koch brothers agree's.. or his company does because they fund that stuff.

PBS is not a waste of money. Don't let chumps like Romney or Boehner make you think removing paltry public funding of PBS will in any noticable way reduce deficits. It's nonsensical chatter that wont save a dime and will remove great quality informative programming from people who can't afford to pay for 800 channels.

Romney wants PBS to go or to become funded by advertising. Also will dumb down more people. 2 birds with one stone. 3 with big bird. It will also put some liberals out of work. 4 birds with one stone.

95% of his tax cuts will result in more unemployment.

Ed do you accept cuts will effect your income or buying power?

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

You can't blame the people for being sheep.. That's how the system has shaped us. It's all one big show to keep us from seeing reality.

Johnny's a bad influence on me.

a sheep pointing to others calling them sheep is still a sheep.

maybe doing something about it yourself other than pointing fingers will be more satisfying for you.

[sperbonzo]

Sesame Workshop and its subsidiaries had total assets of $289 million. About $29 million was held in cash and "cash equivalents," mainly money-market mutual funds. Another $121 million on the balance sheet was held in "investments." According to the accompanying notes, these investments included stakes in hedge funds and private-equity funds



.....No wonder Big bird needs our tax payer dollars!!





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[epitome]

TLC used to be like PBS. Now it airs Honey Boo Boo.

[SmutHammer]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Romney wants PBS to go or to become funded by advertising. Also will dumb down more people. 2 birds with one stone. 3 with big bird. It will also put some liberals out of work. 4 birds with one stone.

95% of his tax cuts will result in more unemployment.

Ed do you accept cuts will effect your income or buying power?

I haven't heard of any tax cuts. Only tax relief. Almost everything I have seen that Obama has done "except bailing out GM" has caused more unemployment.

As I said before, If Obama wins, I hope GE and other companies like it leave the USA.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

I haven't heard of any tax cuts. Only tax relief. Almost everything I have seen that Obama has done "except bailing out GM" has caused more unemployment.

As I said before, If Obama wins, I hope GE and other companies like it leave the USA.

Tax relief, does that mean some paying less?

Can you tell us what you think is the best way forward then. I have said my opinion. That is for Western Governments and tax payers to invest in the future technologies.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

PBS *ALWAYS* runs great Frontline episodes and has lots of other amazing documentary and scientific shows like Nature and Nova. Even one of the Koch brothers agree's.. or his company does because they fund that stuff.

PBS is not a waste of money. Don't let chumps like Romney or Boehner make you think removing paltry public funding of PBS will in any noticable way reduce deficits. It's nonsensical chatter that wont save a dime and will remove great quality informative programming from people who can't afford to pay for 800 channels.

Yea PBS has always been very good and always very fair on their political topics. It's no wonder the Right wing has a hard on for shutting them down by always trying to remove the funding.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

PBS can afford to take care of themselves, The country is in debt, every penny counts. People say they want to do something about it, Yet nobody wants to cut anything...

Obama focusing on using Big Bird against Romney is a joke and confirms he shouldn't be in office.

So when we cutting big oil & gas subsidies?

[suesheboy]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Yeah. It's a red herring. Cut one toilet seat off an air craft carrier instead, it'll save more. People like me used to be able to say "people aren't that stupid", but voters ARE that stupid these days.
(to not realise how little money goes to PBS versus REAL budget HOGS like the pentagon who are given MORE MONEY than they asked for. Talk about that.)

well said

[SmutHammer]

Originally Posted by crockett

Yea PBS has always been very good and always very fair on their political topics. It's no wonder the Right wing has a hard on for shutting them down by always trying to remove the funding.

They make plenty of money on their own. I'm not suggesting cutting off things that are needed. Some people actually do need welfare or some type of assistance. PBS makes millions of profits per year. We need to stop spending on everything that is unnecessary until we get out of debt. Yes everything unnecessary.

Giving out money is much different than Taking less taxes. Remember all these companies Pay taxes on every employee they have.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

PBS can afford to take care of themselves, The country is in debt, every penny counts. People say they want to do something about it, Yet nobody wants to cut anything...

Obama focusing on using Big Bird against Romney is a joke and confirms he shouldn't be in office.

Romney is estimating to spend 2 trillion on the military and increase foreign intervention. This guy has you fooled with cutting Big Bird.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Why are voters so stupid? Centralized public education.

[SmutHammer]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Romney is estimating to spend 2 trillion on the military and increase foreign intervention. This guy has you fooled with cutting Big Bird.

The only reason to even mention Big Bird again is because that seems to be the only thing Obama can speak about, He is trying to divert the attention of the American people away from his Failed presidency.

The Military is needed, It brings many American jobs, technology and security to this country. It seems to Obama that talk shows are more important than the safety of America.

Taxing these business in the USA will only push them and other job creators out. Then the middle class will truly be screwed, and everyone voting for Obama will get what they deserve.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

The only reason to even mention Big Bird again is because that seems to be the only thing Obama can speak about, He is trying to divert the attention of the American people away from his Failed presidency.

The Military is needed, It brings many American jobs, technology and security to this country. It seems to Obama that talk shows are more important than the safety of America.

Taxing these business in the USA will only push them and other job creators out. Then the middle class will truly be screwed, and everyone voting for Obama will get what they deserve.

Where ever the cuts are made it will cost jobs. PBS or Military or Welfare cuts will result in lost jobs.

Interfering overseas usually results in giving country leaders, who even though dictators or despots play the game the Americans want, a lot of money. And usually ends in their reign continuing.

Will he cut this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_foreign_aid not by the way he's talking. Look at some of the countries in that list.

http://listosaur.com/politics/top-10...reign-aid.html

In fiscal year 2010, the U.S. government allocated the following amounts for aid:
Total economic and military assistance: $52.7 billion
Total military assistance: $15.0 billion
Total economic assistance: $37.7 billion
of which, USAID assistance: $14.1 billion.

[SmutHammer]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Where ever the cuts are made it will cost jobs. PBS or Military or Welfare cuts will result in lost jobs.

It will not cost jobs in PBS as they can afford to maintain their own company with their profits.

How would it cut jobs in Welfare? If anything they should be adding jobs to investigate the people to make sure they need assistance or to help people earn their living.

Cutting taxes will create jobs, adding more income being taxed. It's actually pretty simple to see how this works.

How would cutting foreign aid make us lose American jobs?

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

It will not cost jobs in PBS as they can afford to maintain their own company with their profits.

How would it cut jobs in Welfare? If anything they should be adding jobs to investigate the people to make sure they need assistance or to help people earn their living.

Cutting taxes will create jobs, adding more income being taxed. It's actually pretty simple to see how this works.

How would cutting foreign aid make us lose American jobs?

Paul is a total Keynsian. He is so far up Keynsian's alley that he is pretty much part of the "break a window, it's good for the economy" crowd.


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[baddog]

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

PBS can afford to take care of themselves, The country is in debt, every penny counts. People say they want to do something about it, Yet nobody wants to cut anything...

Obama focusing on using Big Bird against Romney is a joke and confirms he shouldn't be in office.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Romney wants PBS to go or to become funded by advertising.

You honestly think the dollars put in by the government is a drop in the PBS bucket?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

It will not cost jobs in PBS as they can afford to maintain their own company with their profits.

Can you show where you got this information from please.

How would it cut jobs in Welfare? If anything they should be adding jobs to investigate the people to make sure they need assistance or to help people earn their living.

So you're saying more people in Welfare programs. I thought you were looking for cuts.

Cutting taxes will create jobs, adding more income being taxed. It's actually pretty simple to see how this works.

True cutting taxes will create more jobs because of more spending. So borrow the money.

How would cutting foreign aid make us lose American jobs?

Go read what I said again. SLOWLY. As you clearly didn't understand it.

Paul is a total Keynsian. He is so far up Keynsian's alley that he is pretty much part of the "break a window, it's good for the economy" crowd.

No idea who or what that is. What I do see is the obvious.

Too many countries have bloated their economies on borrowed money. Even if it's initially spent by Government, what it's spent on goes into the economy. Taxes never covered the borrowed money, that flowed around those countries, and now the debt mountain is becoming the problem.

Cutting taxes means cutting spending (jobs), which means less money in those countries or borrowing more. Or just printing it until a loaf of bread costs $20.

Now if you know how to cat taxes, without cutting jobs or borrowing more. Go to the White House, they have a proper job for you.

If cutting taxes created jobs, there would be very little unemployment. You're thinking is good for the 1960s. Get with the program, it's 2012.

Originally Posted by baddog

You honestly think the dollars put in by the government is a drop in the PBS bucket?

Prove they make a profit.

If they do, I would be the first to say cut the funding.

[SmutHammer]

Paul how did you get that gfy award? Your trolling attempts are horrible.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Prove they make a profit.

If they do, I would be the first to say cut the funding.

http://www.ibtimes.com/big-birds-sal...rcenter-844171

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

Paul how did you get that gfy award? Your trolling attempts are horrible.

So you can't debate and have to resort to trolling.

Prove where PBS makes a profit and I will join you in shouting the funding should be cut.

I agree that Government have covered the gaping hole of losing production and export sales with public spending and borrowing.

I agree it has to be slowed down.

What we disagree on is giving money back in tax cuts. Because it will mean more imports. Your spending will be on goods that are imported, so the spending will.

Shop > Wholesaler or Warehouse > Docks > Third World.

Government spending is.

Worker/Community > Shop > Wholesaler or Warehouse > Docks > Third World.

Here's somewhere they could cut a huge amount of spending. Farm Subsidies. Instead of you getting cheap subsidised food, you pay the full price. It might cut obesity rates, won't result in lost jobs and will cut Government spending.

Will you pay extra for your food to cut Government spending?

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Prove they make a profit.

If they do, I would be the first to say cut the funding.

As a non-profit, all they have to do is spend it all and you are happy.

In a Wall Street Journal column today, Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) rails against ?massive salaries? the executives at NPR and PBS are ?raking? in, and how cutting their subsidies would save taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars:
While executives at the Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) and National Public Radio (NPR) are raking in massive salaries, the organizations are participating in an aggressive lobbying effort to prevent Congress from saving hundreds of millions of dollars each year by cutting their subsidies.
The salaries he finds so egregious? PBS President Paula Kerger earned $632,233, NPR former President Kevin Klose $1.2 million, and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting CEO Patricia de Stacy Harrison earned $298,884, plus $70,630 in additional compensation.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-gra...ion-bucks-year

The big news this morning is the resignation of NPR CEO Vivian Schiller, after NPR executives were caught on videotape mocking the Tea Parties, appearing to concur with the contention that Jews control newspapers, and discussing a $5 million donation from two men claiming to represent an organization tied to the Muslim Brotherhood.

The departure of heads of NPR can prove costly for the organization, which is funded in part by the U.S. taxpayer. According to NPR?s 990 financial disclosure form with the IRS, in 2008, former NPR CEO Kenneth Stern received $872,189 in severance payments. Stern was reportedly forced out by the NPR?s corporate board after less than 18 months in the top job.

[baddog]

http://www-tc.pbs.org/about/media/ab...alReport_2.pdf

[Paul Markham]

As a tax-exempt nonprofit organization, Sesame Workshop is required to make its financial information public.

How does their wages compare with others in similar jobs?

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

How does their wages compare with others in similar jobs?

You mean similar jobs that are paid for with US tax dollars? Just admit it, the do not need US tax dollars. The make plenty of money without the mere pittance the democrats here say they receive from tax dollars.

Nonprofit is not a business model, it is a tax status.

[Paul Markham]

http://www.quora.com/What-portion-of...ral-government

Cutting that funding will make a huge dent in the borrowing.

What else has Romney said he will cut?

Go grab more straws BD, this one is proving how little you know.

[Tom_PM]

Baddog, you seem to think that anyone who doesn't support the republican agendas is a democrat.

2cents

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

http://www.quora.com/What-portion-of...ral-government

Cutting that funding will make a huge dent in the borrowing.

What else has Romney said he will cut?

Go grab more straws BD, this one is proving how little you know.

WTF does that have to do with ANYTHING? You said,

Prove they make a profit.

If they do, I would be the first to say cut the funding.

I did that, you changed the subject.

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Baddog, you seem to think that anyone who doesn't support the republican agendas is a democrat.

2cents

[RKLover]

Sesame Workshops is neither owned or operated by PBS. Sesame Workshops is an independent entity. They rely heavily upon donor support, just like PBS, but the two do not raise funds jointly.

As for PBS, their funding from the National Endowment for the Art's constitutes less than 1/100th of a percent of the domestic budget. They raise over 85% of their funds through individual and corporate donations.

Meanwhile, seven (7) people with net income in excess of $1MM managed to pay ZERO taxes for 2010, as did over 400 with income in excess of $500M.

The capital gains tax rate and carried interest loopholes create a patently unjust scenario where we see multi-millionaires receiving a lower tax rate than a cashier at Walmart.

As long as there are Tax Loopholes a mediocre accountant could drive a truck through, we will continue to ramp up deficits. R&R will not change that, they will exacerbate the situation.

Often we are better off when Government does noting and the free-markets self correct. The best scenario would be O&B are reelected, cannot accomplish anything and the Bush tax cuts expire on their own. That would be the only way to put a dent in the deficit.

As an Independent Voter (former Republican) that's what I'm hoping for.

[crockett]

I love how all the right wing supporters get all up in arms to pull funding for stuff like PBS.. But when I mention Oil & Gas subsidies they are quiet as fuck and wont say a word.

Seriously guys you are all full of shit.. You want to pretend that you are voting for the right because they cut taxes. The problem is you know better, you just wont admit it.

What you are really voting for is a party.. Somewhere along the line you decided to join the Red team..It pretty much doesn't matter what they do, could be good or bad, but you will have an excuse as to justify your reason for backing them.

Anyone that claims they vote for the right because they cut taxes and reduce spending has their head so far up the elephants ass they couldn't know if it were day or night.

You can say much the same for many people on the left as well as all the Ron Paul morons. It's just out of any of the group the Right seems to be filled with so much fucking bull shit, it just amazing that any of you still buy it.

I guess the old saying is correct, the more you lie the more you believe it.




Continue on with your head up the Elephants ass, maybe one day some of you will pull out and see a bit of daylight.

[theking]

There is not much...if any...new information in the video...but the video is put together well.

Markham is uneducated and is ignorant but is not aware of his ignorance...thus he is unable to learn from others that are less ignorant or even the few that actually know what they are talking about.

It gives me a headache to read the ignorant shit that he posts.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by baddog

WTF does that have to do with ANYTHING? You said,

I did that, you changed the subject.

No you didn't I said prove they make a profit and you showed the wages of people who work for a separate company.

[/QUOTE]

Do you think the cuts should fall on farm subsidies or Oil & Gas subsidies or anything that might effect your standard of living?

Or are you only comfortable with cuts effecting others?

Will you answer?

The truth about taxes. http://www.bbc.com/newsbeat/19910456

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by theking

It gives me a headache to read the ignorant shit that he posts.

Then don't read it.

Really are you that stupid not to realise that was the obvious reply.

[Paul Markham]

Do you think the cuts should fall on farm subsidies or Oil & Gas subsidies or anything that might effect your standard of living?

Or are you only comfortable with cuts effecting others?

Will anyone answer?

[Mr. Romance]

Does anyone have a list of all traffic companies and contact info? Traffic companies spam away

Mr. Romance

[BIGTYMER]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

a sheep pointing to others calling them sheep is still a sheep.

maybe doing something about it yourself other than pointing fingers will be more satisfying for you.

A blind dog doesn't know it's blind.

[Paul Markham]

My dog has no nose.

How does it smell?

Awful. Boom Boom

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Do you think the cuts should fall on farm subsidies or Oil & Gas subsidies or anything that might effect your standard of living?

Or are you only comfortable with cuts effecting others?

Will anyone answer?

Man, I feel so sorry for your wife and child. You are such an idiot, or else you really hope you can retain that Troll of the Year award. Hard to believe you can survive without help.