Jail for a Pirate at last.

[NewNick]

Did I beat DvTimes to it ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19253359

[Paul Markham]

Where are the nay sayers?

[helterskelter808]

He's not a pirate though. He linked to stuff; that's how the internet works. He was not even convicted of "piracy". And 4 years inside? People get that, or less, for killing someone or abusing kids. People should not go to prison for non-violent offenses.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Where are the nay sayers?

Do you mean google?

Google provide links to copyrighted material and make a great deal more money that these kids do.

I don't think serge has an account here.

[isteve]

400k unique makes 35k pounds per month ? That revenue is inflated lol

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

So you support putting people in cages? Wow

I support society punishing those that break the rules set by the majority.

Putting people in jail is always an interesting debate. However those against are rarely able to offer anything else that has the same desirable outcomes for criminal, victim, and the greater society.

Its a bit like one of your other big themes Jonnyboi, democracy is flawed and not perfect by any means, but it is far and away the best system yet invented.

Again jokers like you are always unable to offer anything workable that protects most of our rights for most of the time whilst giving us free speech, education, health care, property rights, and a standard of living that pricks like you take for granted everyday of your whinging miserable life.

You are such a prick Jonny, you pontificate about subjects where you have absolutely no intellectual background as if you have all the answers, then you start threads asking for business partners because you cannot even raise enough money to shoot a few scenes.

Markham has an excuse, he talks shit because he is old. Your just a waste of space who cannot see the irony of slagging of a system that allows you that right as an absolute bedrock of its constitution.

What a fucking idiot.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by NewNick

I support society punishing those that break the rules set by the majority.

Putting people in jail is always an interesting debate. However those against are rarely able to offer anything else that has the same desirable outcomes for criminal, victim, and the greater society.

Its a bit like one of your other big themes Jonnyboi, democracy is flawed and not perfect by any means, but it is far and away the best system yet invented.

Again jokers like you are always unable to offer anything workable that protects most of our rights for most of the time whilst giving us free speech, education, health care, property rights, and a standard of living that pricks like you take for granted everyday of your whinging miserable life.

You are such a prick Jonny, you pontificate about subjects where you have absolutely no intellectual background as if you have all the answers, then you start threads asking for business partners because you cannot even raise enough money to shoot a few scenes.

Markham has an excuse, he talks shit because he is old. Your just a waste of space who cannot see the irony of slagging of a system that allows you that right as an absolute bedrock of its constitution.

What a fucking idiot.

He's a troll. Surprised you haven't worked that out yet...

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

You support punishing people who break the rules set by the majority? Wow that's very disturbing and not very moral at all. Not to mention it makes no sense.

Putting people in cages is kidnap.

We don't have "free speech", education, health care, etc. What we have is a violent system that FORCES you into the shitty indoctrination system and health care system and stock market, social security, etc. It is a very violent system

You dont have free speech ? What the fuck do you think you are doing ?

What do you think protect idiots like the Westboro Baptists ? Society protects you and guarantees you the right to spout bollocks all day long.

Putting people in Jail is kidnap ? You stoopid fool "kidnap" is a term invented as a way of describing a certain type of crime. Invented by the lawmakers, and you have the brass neck to claim the term. Fuck Jonnyboi there is no such thing as kidnap in your silly utopia. I could do what the fuck I liked to you and no one would stop me. You would not be able to put your shitty websites up for sale because there would be no one to defend your property rights.

You really are a short sighted, self righteous, simple, fool.

[TheSquealer]

"This was not a passive search engine. Surfthechannel was created specifically to make money from criminal activity and it became the biggest site of its kind on the internet within two years.

"The sentencing indicates the severity of the offences committed and the sophistication of his criminal enterprise and should send a very strong message to those running similar sites that they can be found, arrested and end up in prison.""

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by NewNick

You dont have free speech ? What the fuck do you think you are doing ?

What do you think protect idiots like the Westboro Baptists ? Society protects you and guarantees you the right to spout bollocks all day long.

Putting people in Jail is kidnap ? You stoopid fool "kidnap" is a term invented as a way of describing a certain type of crime. Invented by the lawmakers, and you have the brass neck to claim the term. Fuck Jonnyboi there is no such thing as kidnap in your silly utopia. I could do what the fuck I liked to you and no one would stop me. You would not be able to put your shitty websites up for sale because there would be no one to defend your property rights.

You really are a short sighted, self righteous, simple, fool.

He's a troll. It's a fake nick posting here solely to wind up idiots that haven't realized he's a fake nick posting here solely to wind up idiots.

[Major (Tom)]

gallbladder in 3,2,1

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

He's a troll. It's a fake nick posting here solely to wind up idiots that haven't realized he's a fake nick posting here solely to wind up idiots.

You belittle the good work of a troll, Jonnyboi believes this shit.....

[idolbucks]

Four years ouch

[Radical Bucks]

Yeah cant wait til Manwin gets arrested

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by isteve

400k unique makes 35k pounds per month ? That revenue is inflated lol

yes, probably more 35k per year.

[L-Pink]

The kid knew the consequences and broke the law anyway, for money. No one should feel sorry for someone that gambles and loses.

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[dgraves]

I don't understand why he couldn't just claim that someone was breaking into his house repeatedly and creating the links using his computer, it works for the tubes.

What happened to the "It wasn't me" defense?

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by dgraves

I don't understand why he couldn't just claim that someone was breaking into his house repeatedly and creating the links using his computer, it works for the tubes.

What happened to the "It wasn't me" defense?

lol
someone was hacking his wifi

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

The kid knew the consequences and broke the law anyway, for money. No one should feel sorry for someone that gambles and loses.

.

The interesting part is going into court while already being on notice that you're breaking the law. Typically, when someone is charged with a crime and stands trial for it... they stop doing that thing. Few things can screw a person faster in court than being 100% unrepentant.

[dgraves]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

lol
someone was hacking his wifi

Ya, there you go! I guess they didn't read "Content Theft for Dummies".

[Barry-xlovecam]

Vickerman'a actions met the burden of 'mens rea' knowing criminal intent was proven and he was convicted. It was conspiracy to criminally infringe for commercial gain.

Of course, it is like wack-a-mole -- the offending site will no doubt be replaced by a new player. This is a minor event in a never ending battle for the foreseeable future.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

Do you mean google?

Google provide links to copyrighted material and make a great deal more money that these kids do.

I don't think serge has an account here.

So you're for people making money off others content as the only part of their business. We all understand.

Originally Posted by dgraves

I don't understand why he couldn't just claim that someone was breaking into his house repeatedly and creating the links using his computer, it works for the tubes.

What happened to the "It wasn't me" defense?

Or it was all done off his WiFi by someone passing the front door!!!!!

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by NewNick

I support society punishing those that break the rules set by the majority.

Putting people in jail is always an interesting debate. However those against are rarely able to offer anything else that has the same desirable outcomes for criminal, victim, and the greater society.

Great post. So far no one has come up with a better alternative to prison and keeping them away from society. you can train criminals all you like. Doesn't mean they will go out and get a real job when free.

Stats show some people on bail or just released will re offend. Seems the punishment isn't hard enough.

Markham has an excuse, he talks shit because he is old.

According to some, most gone now and flipping burgers. I've always talked shit. My excuse is much simpler. I can afford to.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by NewNick

You belittle the good work of a troll, Jonnyboi believes this shit.....

He's suckered you well.