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Old 08-17-2012, 04:53 AM   #1
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Pussy Riot -- Guilty

Girls Band and Russian provocateurs Pussy Riot have been found guilty of hooliganism, motivated by religious hatred (and calling out Putin).

Freedom of speech is alive and well in Russia. Can't wait for the sentencing ...

AFP Pussy Riot verdict
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Old 08-17-2012, 04:57 AM   #2
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That was predictable. Isn't it?

P.S. Where did you get the "(and calling out Putin)" part?
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And we people still think we have freedom
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That was predictable. Isn't it?

P.S. Where did you get the "(and calling out Putin)" part?
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Which is why, on the eve of their sentencing on charges of hooliganism, many Russians would feel no sympathy for the three young, skinny girls imprisoned since February, when they sang a "punk prayer" that asked the Virgin Mary to expel President Vladimir Putin from the Kremlin, using a traditional intercession prayer in Orthodoxy, and a church, for their act of political satire.
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The three women in the band, who have been in jail for more than five months because of a guerrilla performance denouncing President Vladimir Putin in Moscow's main cathedral, face a maximum seven years in prison.
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MOSCOW, Aug 16 (Reuters) - Whatever verdict a Russian court passes on Friday on the women from punk band Pussy Riot who taunted the Kremlin from a church altar, President Vladimir Putin has signalled he is no more willing than before to brook dissent as he begins a third term.
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Of course, there are wonderful Machiavellian (or should we say, Rasputineque) opportunities here for Putin. By pardoning the ?criminal? rock band, he can show that, underneath that iron exterior, there beats the heart of a bear (a bear mommy, of course, as this is still the Motherland). ?Mother Bear gets quite angry sometimes when her cubs are naughty,? he might announce through the Kremlin?s spokesman. ?But mommy loves you. Remember, anything I do to you is for your own good, darlings.?

Or, he can let the Russian Orthodox Church hold the bag. The church?allegedly the ?offended party? here?has given no quarter, Christian charity be damned. The bearded zealots (and that?s just the women) feel violated by Pussy Riot?s sacrilege and want the full force of the law to rain down upon their harlotty heads in this world, before their thongs are burned off of them in a fiery, eternal afterlife in hell.

This is the ?mother church? of Orthodox Christianity. Nice.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_recko...enis_riot.html
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Old 08-17-2012, 05:23 AM   #5
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And we people still think we have freedom
He didn't get arrested ...



He was arrested ...



Maybe you are right ...
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Old 08-17-2012, 05:31 AM   #6
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The bottom line is that Russia is still Russia and run by Mr. Putin.

Be careful when you criticize him if you are in Russia.
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What was that??? I mean where is the translation of the court verdict? I didn't notice any mention of Putin there. Perhaps because I know Russian and can read it in native language, but you can't? Am I right?
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The bottom line is that Russia is still Russia and run by Mr. Putin.

Be careful when you criticize him if you are in Russia.
Who said that? Another foreign idiot who think he knows all about Russia because he's watching Fox "News" 24/7?
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Who said that? Another foreign idiot who think he knows all about Russia because he's watching Fox "News" 24/7?
Oh yeah? So I guess the real reason they were arrested is becaue they have pussy in their name.
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Oh yeah? So I guess the real reason they were arrested is becaue they have pussy in their name.
Because they did it in church. Recently FEMEN did the same anti-Putin protest action on the Red Square in front of Kremlin and they were not even arrested. Why???

Professor, please answer my simple question above.
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Their whole act is to provoke. Well it worked.

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That's so disappointing... I hope this serves as a jumping off point for social change there...
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That's so disappointing... I hope this serves as a jumping off point for social change there...
And the social change should be anyone is allowed to "party" in historic churches? I'll bet if they preformed on the church's back lawn nothing would have happened.

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The bottom line is that Russia is still Russia and run by Mr. Putin.

Be careful when you criticize him if you are in Russia.
Well, I'm not... and the man is a cunt: fact
WTF is wrong with Russia and their shit corrupt leaders... been that way since before they bumped off Tzar Nicholas 2nd, and he was a cunt too!
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If it's okay to protest outside a church, why not inside?
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this seems like more of a fine thing rather than 2 years in prison thing.. Make them do some charity shows instead or something.
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Pussy Riot. Sounds like an interracial gangbang movie...
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Well, I'm not... and the man is a cunt: fact
WTF is wrong with Russia and their shit corrupt leaders... been that way since before they bumped off Tzar Nicholas 2nd, and he was a cunt too!
Is it ok to do something like that inside Buckingham? The UK is a free country, right?
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Man, we all live in prison. Some do understand it and act accordingly, other idiots - don't.
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Actually this is not the end. Just wait a bit and you'll see: Putin will give them a personal pardon (as a president). That's just a game. Pussy Riot wanted to be famous dancing in church, Putin want to earn some political benefits on their action. The result: both sides are happy.
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Is it ok to do something like that inside Buckingham? The UK is a free country, right?
Learn the difference between a church and a building occupied by the head of state.

Clue: Churches are those places your country was happily destroying not too long ago.

You live in a backward, barbaric mafia state that has never had a nanosecond of real democracy in its entire existence. He lives in a country with eight centuries of Parliamentary history. Learn that difference too.
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Fuck, 2 years in prison for song against Putin
text of song below, to use google for translate

(Хор)

Богородица, Дево, Путина прогони
Путина прогони, Путина прогони

(конец хора)

Черная ряса, золотые погоны
Все прихожане ползут на поклоны
Призрак свободы на небесах
Гей-прайд отправлен в Сибирь в кандалах

Глава КГБ, их главный святой
Ведет протестующих в СИЗО под конвой
Чтобы Святейшего не оскорбить
Женщинам нужно рожать и любить

Срань, срань, срань Господня
Срань, срань, срань Господня

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Богородица, Дево, стань феминисткой
Стань феминисткой, феминисткой стань

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Церковная хвала прогнивших воджей
Крестный ход из черных лимузинов
В школу к тебе собирается проповедник
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Патриарх Гундяй верит в Путина
Лучше бы в Бога, сука, верил
Пояс девы не заменит митингов -
На протестах с нами Приснодева Мария!

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Богородица, Дево, Путина прогони
Путина прогони, Путина прогони

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Learn the difference between a church and a building occupied by the head of state.
So what's the difference? Can the do the same in the church of Vatican? BTW, the girls get nothing for doing this on a Red Square in front of the the head of state.

Once again: I don't support the 2-year in prison verdict for such an action, but I can't agree it was just a political performance. Want to make it political - go to the Red Square then.
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So what's the difference? Can the do the same in the church of Vatican? BTW, the girls get nothing for doing this on a Red Square in front of the the head of state.

Once again: I don't support the 2-year in prison verdict for such an action, but I can't agree it was just a political performance. Want to make it political - go to the Red Square then.
No, they wouldn't be allowed to do it at the Vatican, but I seriously doubt they'd face jail. In fact I doubt anyone would face jail, let alone two years inside, even doing it at Buckingham Palace or the White House.

They might be shot attempting it, and they'd definitely be arrested, but they wouldn't do any time. OTOH, link to TV shows online and you'll do twice as long in jail. Upsetting corporations is the most serious crime in 'free' countries.
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The charge of hooliganism is a throw-back to Soviet Political crimes

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lawless behavior or conduct typical of a hooligan.

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Pussy Riot. Sounds like an interracial gangbang movie...
Maybe it will be once they get into jail
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Who said that? Another foreign idiot who think he knows all about Russia because he's watching Fox "News" 24/7?
No,this one is more educated.he is watching CNN ,too
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Actually this is not the end. Just wait a bit and you'll see: Putin will give them a personal pardon (as a president). That's just a game. Pussy Riot wanted to be famous dancing in church, Putin want to earn some political benefits on their action. The result: both sides are happy.
That's how I saw this playing out as well.

Putin had already signaled as much by going on the record with words to the effect that they "shouldn't be punished too harshly".

But now I'm not so sure.

If the public pressure get's too intense, Putin will likely leave them in jail (for the short term at least) so as not to be perceived as having caved in to the same.

It's like that tennis player used to say: Image is everything.
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As far as I know, according to the German laws they would face up to 3 years in prison for such a joke in the church. Isn't it?
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If the public pressure get's too intense, Putin will likely leave them in jail (for the short term at least) so as not to be perceived as having caved in to the same.
The time is running out fast for him. The girls have already served a quarter of their prison time, so according to the Russian laws, they will be free after a another half of a year on parole.
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Pussy Riot anti-Putin action in the heart or Russia (nobody got arrested/sued for that):

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https://youtube.com/watch?v=PWeF6...feature=relmfu
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meanwhile, in the other part of the world:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=PWeF6...feature=relmfu
That's very typical for their "democracy".

P.S. That video is so scary and wrong on many levels. The police deal with him like he's a serial killer. "Land of the free" is fucked up I never said that Russia is democracy (it never was and never will be), but how the Americans can be so blind to think they are living in a free country? WTF is wrong with you guys?
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This is just the beginning of it. I want to see more GG Allin like acts, too! Come on!
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Old 08-18-2012, 08:32 AM   #45
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As far as I know, according to the German laws they would face up to 3 years in prison for such a joke in the church. Isn't it?
show me that law...

and even then: no one would sentenced them to prison time, maybe a fine. for jail they would need to set the church on fire.

Putins Russia is moving backwards into stalinistic like times
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Old 08-18-2012, 09:03 AM   #46
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Real simple: Pussy Riot backed Putin's administration into a corner and the outcome is a major embarrassment internationally for the Putin government in Russia.

Had they been arrested for misdemeanor public disorder, fined, and sentenced to time served -- they whole thing would have been forgotten. But to charge them with Felony Hooliganism and sentence them to two years only shows the government's own weakness and appeasement of religious furor -- that is just plain stupid.
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Old 08-18-2012, 09:49 AM   #47
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That's very typical for their "democracy".

P.S. That video is so scary and wrong on many levels. The police deal with him like he's a serial killer. "Land of the free" is fucked up I never said that Russia is democracy (it never was and never will be), but how the Americans can be so blind to think they are living in a free country? WTF is wrong with you guys?
basic thing is that most of them never had proper wide education since it was not free for all like in socialism.This means that generations of people were easy to control through information serving (medias) and they were formed in a way government wanted.Personally, I don't believe in democracy because it can't work. Actually it can but in Scandinavian countries that doesn't not have enemies around every corner.
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Old 08-18-2012, 10:59 AM   #48
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show me that law...
German Criminal Code. Note the "OFFENCES RELATED TO RELIGION AND IDEOLOGY" section.
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pics are awesome, thanks
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