Trademark (site name) in domains - GoFuckYourself.com

cybermike · 09-10-2012, 07:36 AM

Just wondering what everyone's stance is on this? The big guys who actually register the name of their site as a trademark have to fight people who use it in their domains to keep the trademark right.

In the sologirl market a lot of sponsors allow it as long as their site is the focus of the blog.. it helps keep out torrents/tubes in the rankings..

What are your thoughts.. wouldn't you rather have an affiliate getting that traffic vs a tube video or fucking kat.ph and extratorrent listings?

lucas131 · 09-10-2012, 07:38 AM

oh no, he is using mine trademark ... i say fuck everyone thinking this way ... i dont have power to fight anymore with all those clever asses thinking you are the biggest damage for them ... no more comment, i say just bye, traffic go to similar site, have duck

arock10 · 09-10-2012, 07:40 AM

So long they are promoting me that is fine.

I do get a kick out of (usually) larger companies taking the trademarked domain that is ranked and sending sales and traffic just to them only to just redirect it to the tour and lose all of these benefits *cough* *fleshlight* *cough*

Pseudonymous · 09-10-2012, 07:41 AM

I allow it for that reason, I rather affiliates get the spots over filelockers/tube sites. However its a slippery slope because it does suck if they manage to get a bunch of spots ahead of you and basically leech all your sales that would have gone to you if they didn't have your models name in their domain. Its basically a ticket to the top of the search rankings, and because theyre affiliates, they usually have a network to build up backlinks and other techniques. This is their main job so theyre typically working a little harder than you

If you are half decent with SEO and have the models name dot com name, you should be able to beat them out with the purchase of some backlinks. As you do have an advantage.

Depends how confident you are in your ability to get above them before the launch I guess, I had to hold off my launch until I did some SEO work to get ahead of most of them. At the start, I was pushed down and away from page 1 even. Until I really focused on getting back ahead of them. Which is the last thing you want. First thing people do when they find a new model is google her before they signup.

halfpint · 09-10-2012, 07:52 AM

Iv got some idiot who has reg one of my affiliate site domains like this name.com.de , name.com.cm

they are both parked pages atm

Paper_Amar · 09-10-2012, 07:57 AM

We do allow it as well - our only cavet is that you let us OWN the domain and "lease" it out to you. Lifetime lease - so the domain and the work is yours for life. We welcome any and all affiliates that want to rank for those terms. HIt me up and ill set you up!

cybermike · 09-10-2012, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Paper_Amar

We do allow it as well - our only cavet is that you let us OWN the domain and "lease" it out to you. Lifetime lease - so the domain and the work is yours for life. We welcome any and all affiliates that want to rank for those terms. HIt me up and ill set you up!

That is the fairest compromise

TheDA · 09-10-2012, 08:39 AM

Funny you should ask this now

There was a program that changed their T&Cs a month or so ago to stop affiliates owning domains with their site names in the domain.

They have a fasttrack system inside their members area which allows members that have built up fasttracks to view the upcoming sets before they actually go live on their sites. Problem is, nearly all of these full sets are then available on the torrents and forums as soon as they are available on the fasttrack system. It is exactly these torrents and forums that are taking over the slots that affiliates have/could have with their domains.

They are a fairly large outfit, running for a number of years and I thought they had more business savvy than that.

DamageX · 09-10-2012, 09:01 AM

Subdomains. ;)

If they throw a fit, or don't convert, just push a different sponsor on there.

You should ask this at BHA, you'll get some additional creative tips.

TheDA · 09-10-2012, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by damagex

subdomains. ;)

if they throw a fit, or don't convert, just push a different sponsor on there. :graucho

you should ask this at bha, you'll get some additional creative tips.

bha?????

woj · 09-10-2012, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Paper_Amar

We do allow it as well - our only cavet is that you let us OWN the domain and "lease" it out to you. Lifetime lease - so the domain and the work is yours for life. We welcome any and all affiliates that want to rank for those terms. HIt me up and ill set you up!

Can you clarify why you owning the domain is important? Wouldn't it be 100x easier to just let the affiliate license the use of the trademark instead?

cybermike · 09-10-2012, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

Can you clarify why you owning the domain is important? Wouldn't it be 100x easier to just let the affiliate license the use of the trademark instead?

Probably what the lawyers say is necessary to keep the trademark :\

DamageX · 09-10-2012, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDA

bha?????

See sig. :P

TheDA · 09-10-2012, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by damagex

see sig. :p

:-) .

Kiwigirl · 09-10-2012, 11:27 AM

Being that I've had to acquire many trademarked domains for clients it all depends on what the infringing party is using the domain for which in a lot of cases is not to promote the trade marked site.

If it's an affiliate I feel that it is worth while coming to an agreement for the use of the mark but otherwise in order to protect the brand its advised to acquire the domain or risk being misrepresented with no control.

Just saying ;)

cybermike · 09-10-2012, 11:33 AM

...saboooom

signupdamnit · 09-10-2012, 11:39 AM

If the sponsor has a problem with it and you are mainly promoting them take it as a warning sign that the sponsor may not be working with affiliates for much longer and plan accordingly.

I'd never register a known trade marked domain though. Now something like "fetishsextube.com" with the owners of "sextube.com" complaining about use of "their" trademark would be met with my promptly telling them to go fuck themselves.

Barry-xlovecam · 09-10-2012, 11:57 AM

We have made some exceptions for affiliates who sell for us and owned (note the past tense) domains with our trademark names.

Our policy is to enforce our trademarks.

Juicy D. Links · 09-10-2012, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paper_Amar

We do allow it as well - our only cavet is that you let us OWN the domain and "lease" it out to you. Lifetime lease - so the domain and the work is yours for life. We welcome any and all affiliates that want to rank for those terms. HIt me up and ill set you up!

that is smart idea .... shame some companies dont try alternatives as you mention and rather lose affiliates and tarnish there names

lazycash · 09-10-2012, 12:32 PM

Here's a famous thread where a sponsor refused to pay an affiliate when they discovered he was using a similar domain name and had gotten higher in the serps than the site he was promoting. https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=941614

VenzuelanChick · 09-10-2012, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arock10

So long they are promoting me that is fine.

I do get a kick out of (usually) larger companies taking the trademarked domain that is ranked and sending sales and traffic just to them only to just redirect it to the tour and lose all of these benefits *cough* *fleshlight* *cough*

mikke · 09-10-2012, 01:11 PM

i like nasty and their trademark policy

Juicy D. Links · 09-10-2012, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arock10

So long they are promoting me that is fine.

I do get a kick out of (usually) larger companies taking the trademarked domain that is ranked and sending sales and traffic just to them only to just redirect it to the tour and lose all of these benefits *cough* *fleshlight* *cough*

especially after they said it was OK to use that domain

was in the same boat with those cocksuckers .....

cybermike · 09-10-2012, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mikke

i like nasty and their trademark policy

Which is pretty much don't even think about it lol

VenusBlogger · 09-10-2012, 01:27 PM

nothing will happen unlees you own some very huge trademark in the domain name...

and with huge i mean coca-cola, microsoft, etc...

09-10-2012, 07:36 AM	#1
cybermike Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ny Posts: 4,108	Trademark (site name) in domains Just wondering what everyone's stance is on this? The big guys who actually register the name of their site as a trademark have to fight people who use it in their domains to keep the trademark right. In the sologirl market a lot of sponsors allow it as long as their site is the focus of the blog.. it helps keep out torrents/tubes in the rankings.. What are your thoughts.. wouldn't you rather have an affiliate getting that traffic vs a tube video or fucking kat.ph and extratorrent listings? __________________ Hey surfers how about some The Best Porn Sites Last edited by cybermike; 09-10-2012 at 07:39 AM..

09-10-2012, 07:40 AM	#3
arock10 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,218	So long they are promoting me that is fine. I do get a kick out of (usually) larger companies taking the trademarked domain that is ranked and sending sales and traffic just to them only to just redirect it to the tour and lose all of these benefits cough fleshlight cough __________________ Sup

09-10-2012, 07:41 AM	#4
Pseudonymous Photographer/Owner Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 2,661	I allow it for that reason, I rather affiliates get the spots over filelockers/tube sites. However its a slippery slope because it does suck if they manage to get a bunch of spots ahead of you and basically leech all your sales that would have gone to you if they didn't have your models name in their domain. Its basically a ticket to the top of the search rankings, and because theyre affiliates, they usually have a network to build up backlinks and other techniques. This is their main job so theyre typically working a little harder than you If you are half decent with SEO and have the models name dot com name, you should be able to beat them out with the purchase of some backlinks. As you do have an advantage. Depends how confident you are in your ability to get above them before the launch I guess, I had to hold off my launch until I did some SEO work to get ahead of most of them. At the start, I was pushed down and away from page 1 even. Until I really focused on getting back ahead of them. Which is the last thing you want. First thing people do when they find a new model is google her before they signup. __________________ Previous owner of SoloRevenue Previous product manager @ Modelcentro.com/MCProfits.com, IsMyGirl.com, SMRevenue.com Last edited by Pseudonymous; 09-10-2012 at 07:47 AM..

09-10-2012, 07:52 AM	#5
halfpint GFY's Halfpint Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Posts: 15,223	Iv got some idiot who has reg one of my affiliate site domains like this name.com.de , name.com.cm they are both parked pages atm __________________ Get FREE website listings on Cryptocoinshops.net

09-10-2012, 07:57 AM	#6
Paper_Amar Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Miami Beach, Fl Posts: 2,607	We do allow it as well - our only cavet is that you let us OWN the domain and "lease" it out to you. Lifetime lease - so the domain and the work is yours for life. We welcome any and all affiliates that want to rank for those terms. HIt me up and ill set you up! __________________ My icq; 4 4 7 5 4 2 1 2 8 Amar @ paper street cash .com

09-10-2012, 07:38 AM	#2
lucas131 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 11,475	oh no, he is using mine trademark ... i say fuck everyone thinking this way ... i dont have power to fight anymore with all those clever asses thinking you are the biggest damage for them ... no more comment, i say just bye, traffic go to similar site, have duck

09-10-2012, 08:39 AM	#8
TheDA Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,665	Funny you should ask this now There was a program that changed their T&Cs a month or so ago to stop affiliates owning domains with their site names in the domain. They have a fasttrack system inside their members area which allows members that have built up fasttracks to view the upcoming sets before they actually go live on their sites. Problem is, nearly all of these full sets are then available on the torrents and forums as soon as they are available on the fasttrack system. It is exactly these torrents and forums that are taking over the slots that affiliates have/could have with their domains. They are a fairly large outfit, running for a number of years and I thought they had more business savvy than that. Last edited by TheDA; 09-10-2012 at 08:46 AM..

09-10-2012, 09:01 AM	#9
DamageX Marketing & Strategy Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Former nomad Posts: 14,293	Subdomains. ;) If they throw a fit, or don't convert, just push a different sponsor on there. You should ask this at BHA, you'll get some additional creative tips. __________________ Whitehat is for chumps If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story! Last edited by DamageX; 09-10-2012 at 09:03 AM..

09-10-2012, 11:27 AM	#15
Kiwigirl Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 2,556	Being that I've had to acquire many trademarked domains for clients it all depends on what the infringing party is using the domain for which in a lot of cases is not to promote the trade marked site. If it's an affiliate I feel that it is worth while coming to an agreement for the use of the mark but otherwise in order to protect the brand its advised to acquire the domain or risk being misrepresented with no control. Just saying ;) __________________ KIWISOURCING OUTSOURCING WITH A TWIST!

09-10-2012, 11:33 AM	#16
cybermike Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ny Posts: 4,108	...saboooom __________________ Hey surfers how about some The Best Porn Sites

09-10-2012, 11:39 AM	#17
signupdamnit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,697	If the sponsor has a problem with it and you are mainly promoting them take it as a warning sign that the sponsor may not be working with affiliates for much longer and plan accordingly. I'd never register a known trade marked domain though. Now something like "fetishsextube.com" with the owners of "sextube.com" complaining about use of "their" trademark would be met with my promptly telling them to go fuck themselves. __________________ You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

09-10-2012, 11:57 AM	#18
Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	We have made some exceptions for affiliates who sell for us and owned (note the past tense) domains with our trademark names. Our policy is to enforce our trademarks.

09-10-2012, 12:32 PM	#20
lazycash Troll Patrol Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Local Socal Posts: 15,214	Here's a famous thread where a sponsor refused to pay an affiliate when they discovered he was using a similar domain name and had gotten higher in the serps than the site he was promoting. https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=941614 __________________ "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams.. Its crazy..." VenusBlogger

09-10-2012, 01:11 PM	#22
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09-10-2012, 01:27 PM	#25
VenusBlogger So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,540	nothing will happen unlees you own some very huge trademark in the domain name... and with huge i mean coca-cola, microsoft, etc...