Manwin Tried to Strong Arm .XXX For Mawin Support - GoFuckYourself.com

mikesouth · 01-25-2012, 02:56 PM

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?Thylmann again approached ICM, ostensibly interested in doing business with us,? Lawley stated in his declaration. ?He also said that he was planning to start his own adult industry trade group, consisting of the two or three ?powerhouses? of the industry (including Manwin), using organizations such as the Motion Picture Association of America and the Recording Industry Association of America as models?. He said that such a group was necessary because the Free Speech Coalition (a trade group representing certain segments of the adult industry) was not in a position to provide any real value for its members.

?After making these statements, Thylmann then set forth a list of ?nonnegotiable? demands to be met by ICM in order for Manwin to consider conducting business with ICM,? the declaration continues. ?Thylmann stated that he would ?tie up ICM in litigation? if ICM did not meet all of his demands.?

According to both Lawley and Dumas, by October the demands included:
? Allocation of several thousand dot-xxx domain names to Manwin free of charge.
? ICM?s commitment to circumvent its policy development body, the International Foundation for Online Responsibility, particularly with regard to the operation of tube sites within dot-xxx.
? Across-the-board discounts on dot-xxx domain registrations.
? Allocation of so-called ?premium? domains, including Tube.xxx, to be operated by Manwin under a revenue-sharing agreement with ICM.
?Thylmann further stated that in order to explain Manwin?s change of heart regarding .XXX, ICM had to agree to concessions that would put a positive ?spin? on Manwin?s involvement, namely, that it would appear that Manwin accomplished some positive impact for the adult industry when news of the deal was announced,? Lawley?s declaration notes.

DWB · 01-25-2012, 02:56 PM

In before the shit storm and thread lock.

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?Thylmann further stated that in order to explain Manwin?s change of heart regarding .XXX, ICM had to agree to concessions that would put a positive ?spin? on Manwin?s involvement, namely, that it would appear that Manwin accomplished some positive impact for the adult industry when news of the deal was announced,?

Wow.

AzteK · 01-25-2012, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

In before the shit storm and thread lock.

Not surprised at any of it.

bookmarked to read later

GFED · 01-25-2012, 02:59 PM

money makes the world go round...

CaptainHowdy · 01-25-2012, 02:59 PM

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porno jew · 01-25-2012, 03:01 PM

wow shocked they are a business not mother theresa.

Fletch XXX · 01-25-2012, 03:01 PM

Adult has always been pretty gangster

mikesouth · 01-25-2012, 03:01 PM

Those statements are filed in ICMR's motion to dismiss the lawsuit brought by Manwin and Digital Playground

Brujah · 01-25-2012, 03:02 PM

Theo will be here soon. There's only so fast he can jump when Nathan barks.

JFK · 01-25-2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AzteK

bookmarked to read later

I read it now

beerptrol · 01-25-2012, 03:05 PM

no one should be surprised that Manwin will do what's best for them

DWB · 01-25-2012, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol

no one should be surprised that Manwin will do what's best for them

Yea, everyone should sue ICM because they are not given 1000s of free .XXX domains, then make up some lie to put you in a positive light about why you're doing business with them.

Sam - Mr. Skin · 01-25-2012, 03:08 PM

I gave it a read myself.

DarkJedi · 01-25-2012, 03:10 PM

Bros would still suck Thylmann's cock at conventions.

I was disgusted by the photos of the recent one.

mikesouth · 01-25-2012, 03:13 PM

Note the BITCH Slap to FSC

"He said that such a group was necessary because the Free Speech Coalition (a trade group representing certain segments of the adult industry) was not in a position to provide any real value for its members."

Barefootsies · 01-25-2012, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beerptrol

no one should be surprised that Manwin will do what's best for them

Correct. They are a business, and a monolith. They will look after their best interests.

DamianJ · 01-25-2012, 03:20 PM

baddog · 01-25-2012, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth

Note the BITCH Slap to FSC

"He said that such a group was necessary because the Free Speech Coalition (a trade group representing certain segments of the adult industry) was not in a position to provide any real value for its members."

Funny, that was pretty much the same thing Stuart Lawley said about the FSC.

selena · 01-25-2012, 03:28 PM

I'm not a big Manwin fan, but I am less of an ICM fan.

Are there documents supporting the allegations, or is it based on Lawley's word?

Zarathustra · 01-25-2012, 03:28 PM

so sad and disappointed in this **shakes head**

alias · 01-25-2012, 03:29 PM

Mike South delivers.

DWB · 01-25-2012, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth

Note the BITCH Slap to FSC

"He said that such a group was necessary because the Free Speech Coalition (a trade group representing certain segments of the adult industry) was not in a position to provide any real value for its members."

Isn't Manwin in bed with the FSC in that digital fingerprinting anti-piracy operation?

I'd bet they are also contracted to put Manwin in a positive light. Pretty smart really. Make everyone legally have to speak good about you. How else could you woo companies like Playboy and have everyone line up to blow you, forgetting all the damage you've caused.

Brilliant plan.

LeRoy · 01-25-2012, 03:32 PM

This is very interesting!

I'd like to hear both sides of the story though.

stocktrader23 · 01-25-2012, 03:41 PM

Judging by registration numbers Lawley should have taken them up on the offer.

Nikki_Licks · 01-25-2012, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by selena

I'm not a big Manwin fan, but I am less of an ICM fan.

Are there documents supporting the allegations, or is it based on Lawley's word?

If it's lawleys word, then it is worthless. And I think everyone knew there was more to his money grubbing scam. and now it's all starting to come to light.

Protecting children, my ass. I think his guy is the lowest of all scum.

jimmycooper · 01-25-2012, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth

Note the BITCH Slap to FSC

"He said that such a group was necessary because the Free Speech Coalition (a trade group representing certain segments of the adult industry) was not in a position to provide any real value for its members."

As for the allegations, let's not forget about how much of a greasy scumbag Lawley appears to be and how much he has at stake. We know that Manwin demanded that all of their domains reserved and left unused and that the threat of litigation was implicit in said demand, so it's not inconceivable that there was a negotiation of some type either before or after that information was made public. This could just be his scumbag spin on all that.

SZNY · 01-25-2012, 04:30 PM

seems like power play or throwing dirt

lagcam · 01-25-2012, 04:38 PM

It's a bit like Alien vs. Predator......

The only good result is they kill each other or at least keep each other busy for a while.....

xNetworx · 01-25-2012, 04:45 PM

SexKey Scott · 01-25-2012, 04:46 PM

Read.. now see sig

GetSCORECash · 01-25-2012, 04:52 PM

Manwin why the betrayal, oh Manwin...

V_RocKs · 01-25-2012, 05:09 PM

Can't wait!

Yanks_Todd · 01-25-2012, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by selena

I'm not a big Manwin fan, but I am less of an ICM fan.

Are there documents supporting the allegations, or is it based on Lawley's word?

That is a great question.

mikesouth · 01-25-2012, 05:45 PM

Look....we know Stuart Lawley is, shall we say, less than forthright. We also know that Manwin is less than forthright....The only thing that adds credence to this is that it is part of a court filing, meaning they had better be able to back it up.

as was said earlier...the best outcome is that they both kill each other....

mikesouth · 01-25-2012, 07:00 PM

In fairness I got a response from someone I believe is inside Manwin: Its on my site as well

"ICM basically came to Manwin begging to support them. The four main things Manwin told them we absolutely needed were:
1) Stuart or any other ICM goon has to step down from IFFOR
2) They have to lower prices immediately by at LEAST 10 USDs, but we tried for much more than that. There is no reason why it should be more than 30 or so USD
3) Manwin asked them to allow some simple way to register typo domains together with the main registration. For free. Like 2 or 3 obvious typos.
4) an easy way to block typo domains together with normal blocks.
Manwin did not ask for thousands of free domains just for us, they threw around 200 or 300 of them at us the first second we talked. First year only of course. They are also the ones that suggested that Manwin run tube.xxx for example.
In regards to IFFOR rules, Manwin said we want to be sure that no stupid rules would be introduced, the "no tubes on .xxx" was just an example."

alias · 01-25-2012, 08:23 PM

The big money is in disinformation I guess.

dezinformatsiya 4L

edgeprod · 01-25-2012, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SexKey Scott

Read.. now see sig

Whatkey? Never heard of 'em.

DWB · 01-26-2012, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagcam

It's a bit like Alien vs. Predator......

The only good result is they kill each other or at least keep each other busy for a while.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias

The big money is in disinformation I guess.

dezinformatsiya 4L

Whoever can spread the most disinformation and get away with it, wins.

BIGTYMER · 01-26-2012, 12:07 AM

Let's hope ICM doesn't cave to them.

Operator · 01-26-2012, 12:24 AM

Life's a fad

JFK · 01-26-2012, 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GetSCORECash

Manwin why the betrayal, oh Manwin...

2intense · 01-26-2012, 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

Thread pending deletion ...

DamageX · 01-26-2012, 03:53 AM

Crooks fucking over crooks, who'da thunk?

Paul Markham · 01-26-2012, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

Thread pending deletion ...

Who has the balls to screen grab and copy it, then keep it for later?

DamageX · 01-26-2012, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Who has the balls to screen grab and copy it, then keep it for later?

Apparently not you, since you're asking others about it.

Paul Markham · 01-26-2012, 04:17 AM

And see sig.

Damage, done it before I posted.

nico-t · 01-26-2012, 05:42 AM

the bros are really confused now!

- from being against manwin because of all the tubes with full stolen vids
- then brownnosing them because stance against xxx
- now against manwin because of this news

you fucking retards

DarkJedi · 01-26-2012, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

And see sig.

Damage, done it before I posted.

lived to 90 years old and still fucking illiterate?

/facepalm

Manowar · 01-26-2012, 07:35 AM

cant believe this hasnt hit 2 pages yet

candyflip · 01-26-2012, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

And see sig.

Damage, done it before I posted.

You're an idiot. And every post you make just drives that point home.

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mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,346	Look....we know Stuart Lawley is, shall we say, less than forthright. We also know that Manwin is less than forthright....The only thing that adds credence to this is that it is part of a court filing, meaning they had better be able to back it up. as was said earlier...the best outcome is that they both kill each other.... __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

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mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,346	In fairness I got a response from someone I believe is inside Manwin: Its on my site as well "ICM basically came to Manwin begging to support them. The four main things Manwin told them we absolutely needed were: 1) Stuart or any other ICM goon has to step down from IFFOR 2) They have to lower prices immediately by at LEAST 10 USDs, but we tried for much more than that. There is no reason why it should be more than 30 or so USD 3) Manwin asked them to allow some simple way to register typo domains together with the main registration. For free. Like 2 or 3 obvious typos. 4) an easy way to block typo domains together with normal blocks. Manwin did not ask for thousands of free domains just for us, they threw around 200 or 300 of them at us the first second we talked. First year only of course. They are also the ones that suggested that Manwin run tube.xxx for example. In regards to IFFOR rules, Manwin said we want to be sure that no stupid rules would be introduced, the "no tubes on .xxx" was just an example." __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

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