Non US gas diesel question.

[L-Pink]

Is diesel fuel more or less expensive than regular gasoline? At one time diesel was less expensive but now it's a few cents a gallon more. Just wondering if we are getting fucked or not.

[Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE]

word's reamed

[AllAboutCams]

ulp 138.1
diesel 144.9
lpg 82.9

http://www.fuelwatch.wa.gov.au/fuelw...ages/home.jspx

[MaDalton]

in many countries the tax on diesel is less to subsidize farmers and transport companies. i have no idea which one is more expensive to produce.

[pimpware]

Diesel here is about €0,22/liter less expensive than unleaded gasoline

If I'm not wrong it is $0,81/gallon


Today price per L is:

Gasoline: €1.779:mad :
Diesel : €1.554

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

in many countries the tax on diesel is less to subsidize farmers and transport companies. i have no idea which one is more expensive to produce.

Good point. That fact will probably make my question pointless.

With the development of high mpg diesels available in Europe but not in the US I was just wondering how our environmental policies were affecting our ability to take advantage of super efficient turbo diesel engines.

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[ottopottomouse]

Diesel is more here.

[videobunch]

Summary - Demand and Taxes

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/05/die...asoline-costs/

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by videobunch

Summary - Demand and Taxes

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/05/die...asoline-costs/

Great link! Thank you

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Diesel is a few cents more than gas in Canada as well.

[TheSquealer]

Diesel in the US used to cost 1/2 of gas... but then everyone started producing diesel vehicles. Supple and demand.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Good point. That fact will probably make my question pointless.

With the development of high mpg diesels available in Europe but not in the US I was just wondering how our environmental policies were affecting our ability to take advantage of super efficient turbo diesel engines.

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hen or egg?

the market share of diesel cars in Europe must be something between 30-40% - at least

and unless you want a real sportscar, an Audi A8 or Mercedes S-Class with 300+ hp that does 40+ mpg is hard to beat (and actually fun to drive)

[Profits of Doom]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

hen or egg?

the market share of diesel cars in Europe must be something between 30-40% - at least

and unless you want a real sportscar, an Audi A8 or Mercedes S-Class with 300+ hp that does 40+ mpg is hard to beat (and actually fun to drive)

I use Mercedes Sprinter Vans for my expedite business and they are so big I am 6'3" and I can stand up in the cargo area and not bump my head, they hold 3 full sized skids and almost 5000 pounds, and they get 20-25 miles per gallon on diesel fuel. I fucking love them...

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

hen or egg?

the market share of diesel cars in Europe must be something between 30-40% - at least

and unless you want a real sportscar, an Audi A8 or Mercedes S-Class with 300+ hp that does 40+ mpg is hard to beat (and actually fun to drive)

From Videobunch's link above;

"According to the European Union?s most recent economic report, diesel autos accounted for 53.3 percent of all new registrations in 2007, a huge increase from the 13.8 percent share recorded in 1990. That?s several million new diesel-consuming vehicles every year."

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[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

From Videobunch's link above;

"According to the European Union?s most recent economic report, diesel autos accounted for 53.3 percent of all new registrations in 2007, a huge increase from the 13.8 percent share recorded in 1990. That?s several million new diesel-consuming vehicles every year."

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i had a 1984 Volkswagen Jetta Diesel with 54 hp - i can understand why Diesel was not so popular back then

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

i had a 1984 Volkswagen Jetta Diesel with 54 hp - i can understand why Diesel was not so popular back then

When I was in high school I had a muscle car. When my younger brother by 10 years was in school my parents bought him a diesel Jetta, he blamed me, lol.

It is interesting to see the diesel trend in every country but the US.

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[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

When I was in high school I had a muscle car. When my younger brother by 10 years was in school my parents bought him a diesel Jetta, he blamed me, lol.

It is interesting to see the diesel trend in every country but the US.

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yeah, you rather dig for more oil to drive trucks that do 12 mpg

but i dont even dislike trucks, a VW Amarok does 36 mpg with a Diesel engine:

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/...-amarok-20-tdi

so why not use modern technology to get the mileage up?

[potter]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

It is interesting to see the diesel trend in every country but the US.

That's because gas was and is cheap in the U.S. (compared to other countries), for a long time no one cared about fuel efficiency.

I drive an A3 TDI though. Audi and VW are bigger into the diesel market.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

yeah, you rather dig for more oil to drive trucks that do 12 mpg

but i dont even dislike trucks, a VW Amarok does 36 mpg with a Diesel engine:

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/...-amarok-20-tdi

so why not use modern technology to get the mileage up?

European Ford Escort diesels get 60 mpg but can't be sold here. Toyota Yaris gets 35 mpg here but the diesel version gets twice that but not for sale in US. Makes no sense.

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[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

European Ford Escort diesels get 60 mpg but can't be sold here. Toyota Yaris gets 35 mpg here but the diesel version gets twice that but not for sale in US. Makes no sense.

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because gas is still too cheap

once it hits $10/gallon like over here people might reconsider

[mineistaken]

few percent less. But at some point it was more expensive, but mostly less expensive. Like someone said its because it is used by all transport companies, businesses - so countries support their businesses by keeping taxes on diesel at a bit lower level than petrol.
Ps: as for farmers - in most countries there is special "less taxed" diesel that costs way less then regular one. It is also colored as well (so that people won't cheat and won't use it for non farming vehicles. But they still do lol)