Whats considered whale affiliate today?

[mineistaken]

Your thoughts. Especially program owners - how many sales is a whale to you?
I read old thread about it and would like to compare opinions about todays market.

[lucas131]

eight hundreds icecreams daily

[Penny24Seven]

traffic from a BBW blog? I think there will be lots of different opinions on this

[Paper_Amar]

5 sales a day

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Paper_Amar

5 sales a day

Sounds fair. However I agree with the poster above that it depends. Some smaller programs don't even get 5 sales a day in total, not to mention from one affiliate.

[wehateporn]

$300 per day

[adultmobile]

In current times... an affiliate I pay more than $100/day (or $3k+ per month) it is definitely worth all my consideration, I will write him emails every week hey bro how are you and all such stuff.
Those with traffic worth more than $100/day it seems to me are selling it as pre-paid spots only "hey give me $5000 a month I give you that spot, I am not an affiliate."
Most affiliates are using our option of minimum $20 payout and yes they get such $20 once per month in best case (pay per free program) and they seem happy, I am fine too.

Got a few who can do $200+ in one day but that's mostly our models who signup as affiliate, then pass the link to the customers they got in other bigger cam sites (bad bad girls)

[DVTimes]

your looking at the big tubes i bet.

they can make sales.

[John-ACWM]

Some make even 20 sales a day, few thousands a month.

[AlexFS]

All depends on the size of the affiliate program

[Roald]

imo anybody who can do 5+ paid sales a day to a program is a whale.

[SGS]

Originally Posted by Roald

imo anybody who can do 5+ paid sales a day to a program is a whale.

In 2012 I agree.

[DVTimes]

save the whale song

[BIGTYMER]

Several hundred $ per day.

[Roald]

Originally Posted by SGS

In 2012 I agree.

well his question is about 2012 right ;)

PS can you drop me a line real quick? Got a project upcoming which might be interesting to you

roald @T freeones ,com

[SGS]

Originally Posted by Roald

well his question is about 2012 right ;)

PS can you drop me a line real quick? Got a project upcoming which might be interesting to you

roald @T freeones ,com

Sure 345

[mineistaken]

Looks like consensus is between 5 sales to few hunderds $. So lets say 150-300$ (to one program) is a whale according most people who replied.

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Looks like consensus is between 5 sales to few hunderds $. So lets say 150-300$ (to one program) is a whale according most people who replied.

Yes but this is relative to the fact 95% of affiliates make very little. In absolute that would be not so much. I mean let you have 5% of affiliates doing $100+ a day and 95% doing quite less.. still this 95% combined of small guys it can be more than whales combined.

[Roald]

Originally Posted by adultmobile

Yes but this is relative to the fact 95% of affiliates make very little. In absolute that would be not so much. I mean let you have 5% of affiliates doing $100+ a day and 95% doing quite less.. still this 95% combined of small guys it can be more than whales combined.

what about the saying that 90% of revenue is made by 10% of the affiliates?

[Axel_Crak]

Originally Posted by Roald

what about the saying that 90% of revenue is made by 10% of the affiliates?

yes, for us its exactly like that...


For the whale thing well only 5 sales a day ? Really ?

For me whale mean more than that, whales a pretty rare...

ill say sales around 1000$ per day

+1000$ Whale

500-1000$ = Big affiliates

100-500$ = medium/decent affiliate

-100$ = small affiliates

but i guess everyone has is own definition (same as blue chip definition)

[lucas131]

this

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Your thoughts. Especially program owners - how many sales is a whale to you?
I read old thread about it and would like to compare opinions about todays market.

We have guys send 30+ a day but it comes in spurts. I'll go out of my way for anyone doing 5+ a day consistantly. Under 5, you'll of course get politeness, & respect & professionalism, but I'm not going to pull my guys off other projects to
make you custom clips.
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[Yngwie]

Real definition: Any affiliate that weighs 300lbs or more. ;)

[Sarah_Jayne]

Just as in nature, there are different sizes of whales. I agree that these days to start to be considered part of the whale classification you would be needing to be consistently sending five or more sales a day. It is a new day.

[Sarah_Jayne]

The fact is that the really big guys do still exist and they do still run as direct affiliates. However, more and more they are selling their traffic vs being that direct affiliate. So, it is there to earned by the programs but it isn't always the same direct path as it once was.

[SGS]

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

We have guys send 30+ a day but it comes in spurts. I'll go out of my way for anyone doing 5+ a day consistantly. Under 5, you'll of course get politeness, & respect & professionalism, but I'm not going to pull my guys off other projects to
make you custom clips.
ds

Custom clips, exclusive promo content, free hosting and anything else they need.

[geirlur]

We had this discussion earlier this year.. ;)
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=925969&page=2

[pornmasta]

[topsiteking]

Originally Posted by Roald

imo anybody who can do 5+ paid sales a day to a program is a whale.

That's sad.

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by Sarah_Jayne

The fact is that the really big guys do still exist and they do still run as direct affiliates. However, more and more they are selling their traffic vs being that direct affiliate. So, it is there to earned by the programs but it isn't always the same direct path as it once was.

Big guys (at least in terms of alexa rank, can't say for sales) lately I can reach only if I prepay their spots X per month, where X can be $1000 to $20,000 per month. Asking if they want raised affiliate price they say they sell spot and not do affiliate deals with anyone, and often these spots are already sold to other cam programs, esp. livejasmin 's, imlive's and such - at times for 3+ months deals.

We get new affiliates signed up every day (not from gfy really lol they come from elsewhere) but they send little traffic each, they have 1 or 2 sites each with organic traffic so imagine is 100 hits a day average...
Got a few >$100 a day payout guys and I see in their sites they also advertise crackrevenue and others - so it could be bigger whales all concentrate on crakrevenue's, this why they need >$1000 a day to be ranked whales

[biskoppen]

I'd say, $1000 a day

When I was at my top as an affiliate 2-3 years ago I could easy pull $4000-$8000 a day in sales with 50% of it profit.

I don't pull those numbers anymore as sales has become somewhat harder to produce and I tend to focus more on my own little program.

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by topsiteking

That's sad.

[ColBigBalls]

Anyone who can consistantly make you money.

[Roald]

Originally Posted by topsiteking

That's sad.

perhaps but Id rather have someone do 5 a day steady for a year than 1 doing 30 a day for a month ;) The key word would be "constantly" I think.

[Phoenix]

just swimming by

[BIGTYMER]

Originally Posted by Yngwie

Real definition: Any affiliate that weighs 300lbs or more. ;)

[Axel_Crak]

Originally Posted by Roald

perhaps but Id rather have someone do 5 a day steady for a year than 1 doing 30 a day for a month ;) The key word would be "constantly" I think.

Ya thats true, steady affiliates its pretty good too,,, but i dont think its whale

And i still dont think 5 sales a day is whale..

Well, whale is suppose to be more than just a big affiliate right ? I see whale like an affiliate that alone will bring a lot of money and pay bill... not a 5 sales/day guy and not many sponsors have them..

Big companies like streamate, Aff, Dating Gold, Partner Cash, Manwin etc may have some whales, but i dont think a lot of companies does (in my definition of whale)

[96ukssob]

Originally Posted by Roald

imo anybody who can do 5+ paid sales a day to a program is a whale.

Originally Posted by Yngwie

Real definition: Any affiliate that weighs 300lbs or more. ;)

there is definitely a lot of whales ive seen then

[Nicky]

Whale affiliates are extinct now day's

[AdultEUhost]

Originally Posted by Roald

imo anybody who can do 5+ paid sales a day to a program is a whale.

oh shut up, you guys are whales and doing way over 5 sales a day :-)
I agree with Axel, this list seems pretty fair

[Jman]

A whale should be define more by the money they bring in then amount of joins. Also a Whale imho is someone who can also give consistency in traffic. No Spikes of Happyness and then few days of sorrow.

Problem now is so few Whales around it is now Programs who compete with each others to keep them with higher payouts, prepays.....

If you find someone that can be a whale, treat him well... Very Well!!!!!

[VenusBlogger]

10K + per month is a whale affiliate...

You will hardly find more than 5-10 in 90% of adult sponsors nowadays...

And we are talking about affiliates HERE... AGAIN... AFFILIATES.. not massive sites owned by companies managed by several employees sending lots of sales to sponsors...

PARIODO.

[thickcash_amo]

Originally Posted by Roald

imo anybody who can do 5+ paid sales a day to a program is a whale.

true,

I know of a few affs making 1k day to just 4-5 sponsors

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by VenusBlogger

10K + per month is a whale affiliate...

You will hardly find more than 5-10 in 90% of adult sponsors nowadays...

And we are talking about affiliates HERE... AGAIN... AFFILIATES.. not massive sites owned by companies managed by several employees sending lots of sales to sponsors...

PARIODO.

Affiliates in general, it includes "massive sites with several employees".
Even if we wanted to group separately as you said, as a program how we know how many employees or bathrooms they got? We don't ask it in join forms.
Let them say it, how you compare a filipino "office" with 5 people, basically an home with a few bro and cousins who sleep and are feeded there, with a Canada office full of bathrooms?
By my guess, most of affiliates are an one person venture from home; those who are 2+ people from an office are more likely selling prepaid spots per period, not going revshare.
But eventually with the big programs they go revshare too, just how many big programs are there, just a dozen.
So how we divide programs? So whale programs and mid programs and small programs.
For a whale program, a whale affiliate is $1000+ a day (I mean not sales, but payout TO affiliate).
For a mid program a whale affiliate is $300+ a day (payout to affiliate, his part).
For a small program a whale could be even $50 a day

[The Ghost]

Love these threads


It's all relative. A whale to me is an affiliate who can consistently make sales for years. That's the only way success is measured and long term health for a program.

Things are very spread out now. Any loyal affiliate to my program who appreciates the content and knows how to sell it is a whale to me.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Roald

what about the saying that 90% of revenue is made by 10% of the affiliates?

80/20 rule. 20% of your work gets you 80% or your money

[VenusBlogger]

Originally Posted by adultmobile

Affiliates in general, it includes "massive sites with several employees".

That's your opinion, NOT THE TRUTH.

The TRUTH is that we are talking about SINGLE AFFILIATES as stated by severel people above... Massive pornstar sites or such dont qualify, since they have several employees...

If a single affiliate does 3K per month, a site doing the same with 10 employees will do 30K per month... Obvisouly.. and that doesn't qualify each of their single affiliate as a whale.

BTW what kind of tricky methods do your webmasters use to send cam sales? HUH?

Nevermind, you wil not answer and run away..

PIRIOD.

[PTB-Media]

Originally Posted by Axel_Crak

yes, for us its exactly like that...


For the whale thing well only 5 sales a day ? Really ?

For me whale mean more than that, whales a pretty rare...

ill say sales around 1000$ per day

+1000$ Whale

500-1000$ = Big affiliates

100-500$ = medium/decent affiliate

-100$ = small affiliates

but i guess everyone has is own definition (same as blue chip definition)

I have to agree

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by VenusBlogger

BTW what kind of tricky methods do your webmasters use to send cam sales? HUH?
Nevermind, you wil not answer and run away..
PIRIOD.

I have no idea of the tricky methods, I am just the cam site, the secrets is holded by those guys who send me sales

[epitome]

It is all relative. A whale to a 10 joins a day program is a lot different than a whale to a 300 join program.