Republicans, don't worry Romney will create loads of jobs. Vote for him.

[Paul Markham]

Just watched live giving a speech and explaining how he will create lots of jobs in so many areas it was astounding to listen to him. I hope you'll soon be able to watch his speech soon, Great ideas and plans.

[Wizzo]

The Republicans will already vote for him, its Democrat and/or Independent votes that he needs to win.

[pornmasta]

[Minte]

Simply having Obama and his eat the rich,tax and spend gang out will encourage the business sector to start reinvesting in their companies. Anything beyond that is just icing on the cake for Romney

[Paul Markham]

He was talking in Lexington if you need the location to do a search.

He's going to strengthen the military, build more ships, well build just about everything. Get tough with Iran, support Syrian rebels, get involved in Libya, Iraq, stop the withdrawal of troops, be friends and supporters of Israel, Palestine, make sure the Palestinians have their own secure State (with or without Jewish settlers he didn't say), get involved in Egypt, make sure those who support American values in the Middle East were friends (didn't explain about equality for women). Stop the withdrawal of troops in Afghanistan. Make sure China understood America's resolve. Say no to Putin. Support US friends in S. America. Get NATO countries to spend more on military (Buy US hardware?).

I was waiting for him to declare war on someone, but no worries, he's gong to spend to get ready for one.

Just no explaining of how the US will pay for it. That will come later.

[wehateporn]

Personally I don't believe anything they say before elections, however I do admire the propaganda as an art itself

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Minte

Simply having Obama and his eat the rich,tax and spend gang out will encourage the business sector to start reinvesting in their companies. Anything beyond that is just icing on the cake for Romney

No Romney is going to spend huge amounts, He's not cutting the spending. You don't build for WW3 on a micro budget. He promised to build 3 submarines a year. What's the going price on a Nuclear sub these days, build and run per year? Plus other ships, he's going to strengthen the navy because it's too small. Not sure about the air force, still I expect he will spend on them as well.

This guy isn't cutting anything.

[Paul Markham]

In Iraq, the costly gains made by our troops are being eroded by rising violence, a resurgent Al-Qaeda, the weakening of democracy in Baghdad, and the rising influence of Iran. And yet, America?s ability to influence events for the better in Iraq has been undermined by the abrupt withdrawal of our entire troop presence. The President tried?and failed?to secure a responsible and gradual drawdown that would have better secured our gains.

The President has failed to lead in Syria, where more than 30,000 men, women, and children have been massacred by the Assad regime over the past 20 months. Violent extremists are flowing into the fight. Our ally Turkey has been attacked. And the conflict threatens stability in the region.

America can take pride in the blows that our military and intelligence professionals have inflicted on Al-Qaeda in Pakistan and Afghanistan, including the killing of Osama bin Laden. These are real achievements won at a high cost. But Al-Qaeda remains a strong force in Yemen and Somalia, in Libya and other parts of North Africa, in Iraq, and now in Syria. And other extremists have gained ground across the region. Drones and the modern instruments of war are important tools in our fight, but they are no substitute for a national security strategy for the Middle East.

I know the President hopes for a safer, freer, and a more prosperous Middle East allied with the United States. I share this hope. But hope is not a strategy. We cannot support our friends and defeat our enemies in the Middle East when our words are not backed up by deeds, when our defense spending is being arbitrarily and deeply cut, when we have no trade agenda to speak of, and the perception of our strategy is not one of partnership, but of passivity.

The greater tragedy of it all is that we are missing an historic opportunity to win new friends who share our values in the Middle East?friends who are fighting for their own futures against the very same violent extremists, and evil tyrants, and angry mobs who seek to harm us. Unfortunately, so many of these people who could be our friends feel that our President is indifferent to their quest for freedom and dignity. As one Syrian woman put it, ?We will not forget that you forgot about us.?



It is time to change course in the Middle East. That course should be organized around these bedrock principles: America must have confidence in our cause, clarity in our purpose and resolve in our might. No friend of America will question our commitment to support them? no enemy that attacks America will question our resolve to defeat them? and no one anywhere, friend or foe, will doubt America?s capability to back up our words.

I will put the leaders of Iran on notice that the United States and our friends and allies will prevent them from acquiring nuclear weapons capability. I will not hesitate to impose new sanctions on Iran, and will tighten the sanctions we currently have. I will restore the permanent presence of aircraft carrier task forces in both the Eastern Mediterranean and the Gulf region?and work with Israel to increase our military assistance and coordination. For the sake of peace, we must make clear to Iran through actions?not just words?that their nuclear pursuit will not be tolerated.

go read the rest. http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/1...policy-at-vmi/

[Brujah]

Originally Posted by Minte

Simply having Obama and his eat the rich,tax and spend gang out will encourage the business sector to start reinvesting in their companies. Anything beyond that is just icing on the cake for Romney

You still think Romney could win this?

[nickey1952]

Are you kidding me, that is why you do not live in the USA< Romney is full of crap so are most Republicans...

[Best-In-BC]

You be-leave the man who spits twice as much BS as the other ? I know he spanked Obama in the debut but does it reality matter ? There both full of shit, only thing is, Obama is showing improvements from what the previous guy set in motion.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by nickey1952

Are you kidding me, that is why you do not live in the USA< Romney is full of crap so are most Republicans...

I could of moved to the US in the 80s or 90s. Successful business I could transfer, family and the money.

Took a serious look at the valley, LA county and Orange County. So glad I cam to my senses.

OTH, came to Czech on and off for a year before moving. No regrets.

Reading all the Repubs here about how he's going to cut and cut. Then seeing him tell the world how he's going to spend and spend so he can interfere some more. Just reaffirmed I made the right decision.

Now the Repubs can tell me it's none of my business how he's going to get us to spend more on his wars. That a close friend is today fighting in Afghanistan and was fighting in Iraq. Seems he's lining up the next place to go spend money and waste lives. Plus the two places that cost so much of both already.

Where to next US?

[SmutHammer]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Personally I don't believe anything they say before elections, however I do admire the propaganda as an art itself

He should have showed his presidency on the chart, much lower than Bush, Actually the Country was bringing in more taxes under Bush. Clinton is the reason the economy went to shit. We shouldn't even be worried about who you are going to vote for. Obama should be impeached, False ads and spreading lie's just to name a couple things. The middle class is nothing without having a job to go to work. If Obama is re-elected I hope that GE and other companies like it leave the USA.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

He should have showed his presidency on the chart, much lower than Bush, Actually the Country was bringing in more taxes under Bush. Clinton is the reason the economy went to shit. We shouldn't even be worried about who you are going to vote for. Obama should be impeached, False ads and spreading lie's just to name a couple things. The middle class is nothing without having a job to go to work. If Obama is re-elected I hope that GE and other companies like it leave the USA.

Are you even on the same planet as the rest of us? Impeach Obama? For what?

So you want to impeach Obama for not wearing magic underwear or something, but what about Bush? Did you cry to have Bush Impeached when he outright lied about WMD in Iraq?

Romney is a fucking disaster waiting to happen. He is nothing more than a "yes" man. He has no real stance on anything as long as it gets him votes that's what he will say. This does not translate well into real world "leadership" when the Yes & nos equal peoples lives.

Yes, I said leadership & not politics because we vote for a leader not a political yes man that wears one hat or the other.

[Minte]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

No Romney is going to spend huge amounts, He's not cutting the spending. You don't build for WW3 on a micro budget. He promised to build 3 submarines a year. What's the going price on a Nuclear sub these days, build and run per year? Plus other ships, he's going to strengthen the navy because it's too small. Not sure about the air force, still I expect he will spend on them as well.

This guy isn't cutting anything.

Based on what this administration is spending we could build 2 nuclear subs each day.

[Minte]

Originally Posted by Brujah

You still think Romney could win this?

Elections are like sporting events. Pollsters - oddsmakers.

There is still the game that actually has to be played. We will find out in a few weeks.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Minte

Based on what this administration is spending we could build 2 nuclear subs each day.

How many could we have built under Bush?

[Minte]

Originally Posted by crockett

How many could we have built under Bush?

Is Bush running for president again

[2012]

Presidents fix problems.

[Brujah]

Originally Posted by Minte

Elections are like sporting events. Pollsters - oddsmakers.

There is still the game that actually has to be played. We will find out in a few weeks.

How can we cash in on this? We'd win no matter who wins.

[Minte]

Originally Posted by Brujah

How can we cash in on this? We'd win no matter who wins.

If you figure it out, keep it to yourself. Then you can make a pile of money that you can give a larger percentage to the IRS.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Minte

Based on what this administration is spending we could build 2 nuclear subs each day.

So he's switching from contracts to companies like yours, to sub building.

A nuclear sub costs a lot more than that. Go figure it out, you're a businessman.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Minte

Is Bush running for president again

See this is the problem with you guys.. You love to ignore the "bad" past of your own party like a goldfish with a 60 second memory. Despite the fact that the future of your party wants to repeat the the exact same mistakes that brought us where we are today.

It's why the Right always does the same thing over and over again somehow expecting something different to happen.

Honestly Minte, I'm sure you are a fairly smart person, but you honestly can't sit here and think that Romney is actually going to be a good President. This is the problem in this country today.. Everyone is voting for the party they want to win vs the person & or policies.

It doesn't matter if the Right puts another babbling idiot like Sarah Palin up on stage or Bozo the Clown, you will vote for them no matter what they say because they wear a big R on their chest & ride a elephant. Anyone that sits there and says they will vote for Romney on policy is full of shit or just outright uneducated on his history of policy.

He literally changes his stance on just about everything he says. This is not made up so called liberal media bullshit it's documented by fact you can watch video of him saying one thing then another all over the internet all day long.

I don't think Obama is anywhere near perfect but to sit here and think Romney will do a better job is outright delusional at best.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Minte

Based on what this administration is spending we could build 2 nuclear subs each day.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/1...policy-at-vmi/

Go read what he intends doing. building subs isn't the end of the costs, men, missiles, arms, repairs, dock yards, administrators.

Then read what else he's promising.

Where is the money coming from?

No taxes, no borrowing, leaves a lot of other contracts to be cut, people to be sacked, unemployment will sky rocket, less paying taxes. Mitt is delusional. Or maybe the people who vote for him are.

And be sure, none of the businesses paying to get him into the White House will see a dime less spent on them. Did you pay our dues to the campaign?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Minte

Based on what this administration is spending we could build 2 nuclear subs each day.

So let me see if I have this right, correct me if I'm wrong.

Bush got the US into two wars. After they were "won" the troops had to stay.

Now Obama is reducing the troops and promises to get them out ASAP.

Romney is saying we need more in there and a slower withdrawal. Plus building the US militart presence.

And this make Obama wrong.



Stupid me, I was thinking the opposite.

[Brujah]

We can't talk about Bush? lol, but we can talk about Clinton. Interesting how that works.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Brujah

We can't talk about Bush? lol, but we can talk about Clinton. Interesting how that works.

It's the Republican way.. If you watched that debate between Bill O & John Stewart it was the exact same thing. It's like the Right Wingers just instantly forget what their last guy did unless it was Reagan.

Reagan for some reason beyond my knowledge, is somehow a mystical figure of godlike per-portions and probably rides a unicorn in Heaven shooting rainbows filled with pots of gold from his ass..

It's just like when John Kerry changed what he said on 2 or three things then all you heard from the Right was "FLIP Flopper" Flip Flopper".. Then when McCain changed what he said every other week much like Romney does today it's A OK.

They live in their own little world where reality doesn't shine through the clouds.

[Minte]

Originally Posted by crockett

See this is the problem with you guys.. You love to ignore the "bad" past of your own party like a goldfish with a 60 second memory. Despite the fact that the future of your party wants to repeat the the exact same mistakes that brought us where we are today.

It's why the Right always does the same thing over and over again somehow expecting something different to happen.

Honestly Minte, I'm sure you are a fairly smart person, but you honestly can't sit here and think that Romney is actually going to be a good President. This is the problem in this country today.. Everyone is voting for the party they want to win vs the person & or policies.

It doesn't matter if the Right puts another babbling idiot like Sarah Palin up on stage or Bozo the Clown, you will vote for them no matter what they say because they wear a big R on their chest & ride a elephant. Anyone that sits there and says they will vote for Romney on policy is full of shit or just outright uneducated on his history of policy.

He literally changes his stance on just about everything he says. This is not made up so called liberal media bullshit it's documented by fact you can watch video of him saying one thing then another all over the internet all day long.

I don't think Obama is anywhere near perfect but to sit here and think Romney will do a better job is outright delusional at best.

I don't worry about how smart I think I am. I have done alright in my career and am having a good life.

I did know that Obama would make a terrible president. There are certainly threads floating about from 4 years ago. And here we are today, and I was correct. Obama did make a terrible president. If you think different, then vote for him again. Be his biggest cheerleader. If you think a $16T dollar deficit is a great thing then we really have nothing more to discuss.

[Minte]

Originally Posted by Brujah

We can't talk about Bush? lol, but we can talk about Clinton. Interesting how that works.

You can talk about whoever you'd like. Talking about Clinton or Bush is irrelevant to what's on the table this year. We could talk about Hoover and Roosevelt too.

[GAMEFINEST]

we are spending way too much money.

My friend who is unemployed, bad credit, just got a credit card with a balance of 10K from Amex, I see another huge disaster happening in a few years

[Rochard]

Yes, Romney will fix all of our problems. He'll lower our taxes, increase our military spending, lower unemployment and create millions of jobs and lower the deficit all at the same time. He's our savior!

[Minte]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/1...policy-at-vmi/

Go read what he intends doing. building subs isn't the end of the costs, men, missiles, arms, repairs, dock yards, administrators.

Then read what else he's promising.

Where is the money coming from?

No taxes, no borrowing, leaves a lot of other contracts to be cut, people to be sacked, unemployment will sky rocket, less paying taxes. Mitt is delusional. Or maybe the people who vote for him are.

And be sure, none of the businesses paying to get him into the White House will see a dime less spent on them. Did you pay our dues to the campaign?

Honestly, Paul...no one knows. If they did do you actually think the nation would be in such lousy shape? Obama has had his shot. Things have only gotten worse. Our credit rating is down and we owe $16T.

You can pick around about subs and aircraft but that's only a small part of the problem. As I answered early in this thread. We could build 2 nuclear submarines every day of the week with what the government is spending. We could build enough nuclear weapons everyday to wipe a continent off the map with just the interest on the money we pay every day.

[Minte]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Yes, Romney will fix all of our problems. He'll lower our taxes, increase our military spending, lower unemployment and create millions of jobs and lower the deficit all at the same time. He's our savior!

Obama hasn't fixed it. He made it worse. How much more do you think the Chinese will lend the US?

[Minte]

Originally Posted by crockett

It's the Republican way.. If you watched that debate between Bill O & John Stewart it was the exact same thing. It's like the Right Wingers just instantly forget what their last guy did unless it was Reagan.

Reagan for some reason beyond my knowledge, is somehow a mystical figure of godlike per-portions and probably rides a unicorn in Heaven shooting rainbows filled with pots of gold from his ass..

It's just like when John Kerry changed what he said on 2 or three things then all you heard from the Right was "FLIP Flopper" Flip Flopper".. Then when McCain changed what he said every other week much like Romney does today it's A OK.

They live in their own little world where reality doesn't shine through the clouds.

So what does it say about a group of people who waste any time looking backwards?

Maybe I am not a republican. Maybe I am a voter that thinks a government should NOT put our grandchildren in a debt position.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Minte

Honestly, Paul...no one knows. If they did do you actually think the nation would be in such lousy shape? Obama has had his shot. Things have only gotten worse. Our credit rating is down and we owe $16T.

You can pick around about subs and aircraft but that's only a small part of the problem. As I answered early in this thread. We could build 2 nuclear submarines every day of the week with what the government is spending. We could build enough nuclear weapons everyday to wipe a continent off the map with just the interest on the money we pay every day.

I agree with you about reducing the debt, I don't agree with you about how. Romney will not do it and he's pledging himself to expenditure your grandchildren can't afford.

Are you ready to pay more in taxes to reduce the debt growth?

Are you willing to have a less affluent life style so the country can run on less debt?

Are you willing to pay more in taxes to cover the unemployed that will be created by reducing the debt?

Are you willing to get less joins because everyone is living on less money?

Are you willing to pay more for food because the farmers won't be getting subsidies?

Are you willing to stop buying cheap imports from the 3rd World?

Or are you dreaming the debt will be reduced with no pain to you?

look at Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal for examples of what happens when Government stops spending. They are in a far worse position then most, so also look at the UK for an example.

Maybe I am a voter that thinks a government should NOT put our grandchildren in a debt position.

The money the Governments spent went into the system and circulated to everyone. What will you do to make sure your grandchildren aren't saddled with your debts?

Originally Posted by GAMEFINEST

we are spending way too much money.

When we decide to stop spending, we might get the debt down.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Minte

So what does it say about a group of people who waste any time looking backwards?

Maybe I am not a republican. Maybe I am a voter that thinks a government should NOT put our grandchildren in a debt position.

There is a one of those old wise quotes that I'm sure you already know is coming.

"Those who do not remember their past are condemned to repeat their mistakes."

As far as not putting your grandchildren in debit as reason to vote for Republican.. May I ask you to read the quoted line above once more.

I think you live in the past under a misguided history brought on by the right wing. The last 3 Republican presidents have increased out debit by far more than the last 3 Democrats.

You live in a fairly land and believe what you want to hear. The numbers do not lie.. They do not make voodoo economics or fuzzy math. The numbers are what the numbers are.

Debit increase by President.

Carter 42% increase
Reagan 188% increase
Bush Sr. 55% increase
Clinton 35% increase
Bush Jr 89% increase
Obama 41% increase

What is it that you can't read in the numbers that still makes you honestly believe the Republicans wont cause your grandchildren to be in debit? Is it wishful thinking because it sure as hell isn't the facts.

The last 3 Republicans all increased the debit over 50% and 1 over 100%
The last 3 Democrats all increased the debit by under 50%

In what world do you live in that less than 50% is greater than over 50%?

Obama of course will likely go over 50% at this point but he will be the first Democrat to do that since Roosevelt. But he only did it then due to WW2. Obama also has 2 wars to deal with and the verge of a 2nd great depression all of which he did not create.

Personally I think both parties are shit but I can't stand the BS that comes out of the Right that is just outright lies. I wish DC would just disappear from the map and we could just start fresh at this point.

[SmutHammer]

Funny how you like to blame everything on Bush. When it was a bill that Clinton signed that caused the housing market to crash.

You could pick from a long list of reasons to impeach Obama. Lying about what just happened in the middle east is one of them, another thing is ignoring his responsibilities to meet with world leaders, Instead he will go on talk shows.... Obama is one of the biggest failures this Country has ever seen. From what I can see Obama's goal is to make America dependent on government.

Romney will lower taxes to businesses, thus creating more jobs and bringing in more taxes.
Romney will not cut our military, another thing that supplies jobs to Americans.
#1 thing Romney is not Obama!

I am not a Republican or Democrat.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Just watched live giving a speech and explaining how he will create lots of jobs in so many areas it was astounding to listen to him. I hope you'll soon be able to watch his speech soon, Great ideas and plans.

You're kidding I hope. Romney and people like him are the reason so many people are out of work, and the jobs they used to have were outsourced to other countries. Tell me you don't believe a single word that fucking liar says.

[SmutHammer]

Originally Posted by **********

You're kidding I hope. Romney and people like him are the reason so many people are out of work, and the jobs they used to have were outsourced to other countries. Tell me you don't believe a single word that fucking liar says.

The reason of jobs being outsourced is to much government involvement and taxes.

[TaraLincoln]

lol Now i have a job that wont fire me

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by crockett

Honestly Minte, I'm sure you are a fairly smart person, but you honestly can't sit here and think that Romney is actually going to be a good President. This is the problem in this country today.. Everyone is voting for the party they want to win vs the person & or policies.

This has always been the problem - people vote along party lines no matter who their candidate is. While I'm stunned that a black man named Barack is the President, I was even more stunned that nearly half of the country voted for McCain.

I don't vote party lines. I vote for the guy that is right for the country. And it's not Romney.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

You could pick from a long list of reasons to impeach Obama. Lying about what just happened in the middle east is one of them, another thing is ignoring his responsibilities to meet with world leaders, Instead he will go on talk shows.... Obama is one of the biggest failures this Country has ever seen. From what I can see Obama's goal is to make America dependent on government.

This is the new Republican game plan. Can't win, so let's move to impeach them. Fucking brilliant.

[Minte]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I agree with you about reducing the debt, I don't agree with you about how. Romney will not do it and he's pledging himself to expenditure your grandchildren can't afford.

Are you ready to pay more in taxes to reduce the debt growth?

Are you willing to have a less affluent life style so the country can run on less debt?

Are you willing to pay more in taxes to cover the unemployed that will be created by reducing the debt?

Are you willing to get less joins because everyone is living on less money?

Are you willing to pay more for food because the farmers won't be getting subsidies?

Are you willing to stop buying cheap imports from the 3rd World?

Or are you dreaming the debt will be reduced with no pain to you?

look at Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal for examples of what happens when Government stops spending. They are in a far worse position then most, so also look at the UK for an example.



The money the Governments spent went into the system and circulated to everyone. What will you do to make sure your grandchildren aren't saddled with your debts?



When we decide to stop spending, we might get the debt down.

Paul, You need to change to DECAF.

[Minte]

Originally Posted by crockett

There is a one of those old wise quotes that I'm sure you already know is coming.

"Those who do not remember their past are condemned to repeat their mistakes."

Obama of course will likely go over 50% at this point but he will be the first Democrat to do that since Roosevelt..

And right there is my point.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Minte

And right there is my point.

So 1 in 3 Democrats "might" go over 50% of the last 3 and you won't vote for them but 100% of the last 3 Republicans has exceeded 50% by a large amount and you vote for them.

Your point make no sense, specifically being Obama while maybe didn't make every choice correct did not create the mess he has to attempt to clean up.

What exactly would you of had him do? Have a temper tantrum as the Republicans did in Congress during the bail outs talks causing the US credit rating to be dropped? Should Obama have just let them all fail no bail outs notta thing?

Gonna sit here and tell me had he not approved the bail outs that you right wingers wouldn't still be blaming him for the collapse of our banking system?

Please tell us how Mitt Romney would have done it different. Do you know that one of Mitt Romney's head campaign guys has already been hired by one of the largest Banking lobby firms? You really think Mitt wouldn't bail out the banks? Did Obama start the wars?

Lets be honest here because you are complaining about the debit and the banker bail outs + 2 wars is where the debit has come from. It sure as hell didn't come from welfare checks to the poor.

[Minte]

Originally Posted by crockett

So 1 in 3 Democrats goes over 50% of the last 3 and you won't vote for them but 100% of the last 3 Republicans has exceeded 50% by a large amount and you vote for them.

Your point make no sense, specifically being Obama while maybe didn't make every choice correct did not create the mess he has to attempt to clean up.

What exactly would you of had him do? Have a temper tantrum as the Republicans did in Congress during the bail outs talks causing the US credit rating to be dropped? Should Obama have just let them all fail no bail outs notta thing?

Gonna sit here and tell me had he not approved the bail outs that you right wingers wouldn't still be blaming him for the collapse of our banking system?

Please tell us how Mitt Romney would have done it different. Do you know that one of Mitt Romney's head campaign guys has already been hired by one of the largest Banking lobby firms? You really think Mitt wouldn't bail out the banks?

Lets be honest here because you are complaining about the debit and the banker bail outs + 2 wars is where the debit has come from. It sure as hell didn't come from welfare checks to the poor.

What makes you think I voted straight republican at any time in my life?
You can spin the facts as easily as I just spun your last post. It doesn't make anyone right or wrong.

The fact remains. This administration has raised the national debt faster than all the rest of the presidents combined. The spending and borrowing is unsustainable.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice,shame on me. Based on Obama's promises 4 years ago, how can anyone believe he is going to change his direction. And his direction will bankrupt the nation.

[SmutHammer]

Originally Posted by crockett

Your point make no sense, specifically being Obama while maybe didn't make every choice correct did not create the mess he has to attempt to clean up.

Obama has made a very big mess, All the cuts in Medical, Yet higher taxes....

The job of a drug rep is becoming extinct, What insurance companies pay for medical testing has gone way down, or has been removed, causing many private practices to go out of business and many hospitals to lay off an extreme amount of people. This also limits the quality of health care people receive. If you think that is bad, Just wait until Obama care hits!

He even mentioned cutting out the middle man in his debate, does he not realize that is also cutting jobs? Almost everything Obama does hurts the job market.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

Funny how you like to blame everything on Bush. When it was a bill that Clinton signed that caused the housing market to crash.

You could pick from a long list of reasons to impeach Obama. Lying about what just happened in the middle east is one of them, another thing is ignoring his responsibilities to meet with world leaders, Instead he will go on talk shows.... Obama is one of the biggest failures this Country has ever seen. From what I can see Obama's goal is to make America dependent on government.

Romney will lower taxes to businesses, thus creating more jobs and bringing in more taxes.
Romney will not cut our military, another thing that supplies jobs to Americans.
#1 thing Romney is not Obama!

I am not a Republican or Democrat.

It's called the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act. Named after the 3 REPUBLICANS whom sponsored it. Phil Gramm, Jim Leach & Thomas J. Bliley, Jr.

Educate yourself before you talk smack on shit you appear to know nothing about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm%E...0%93Bliley_Act


Bill Clinton signed it because like every other shit law or act that comes out of Congress it's filled with other things they want or don't want.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Minte

What makes you think I voted straight republican at any time in my life?
You can spin the facts as easily as I just spun your last post. It doesn't make anyone right or wrong.

The fact remains. This administration has raised the national debt faster than all the rest of the presidents combined. The spending and borrowing is unsustainable.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice,shame on me. Based on Obama's promises 4 years ago, how can anyone believe he is going to change his direction. And his direction will bankrupt the nation.

That is not true.. while the numbers are bigger percentage wise Obama has only raised it by 41% as I listed above. Reagan & likely Roosevelt have the record for the highest increase.

[Minte]

Originally Posted by crockett

That is not true.. while the numbers are bigger percentage wise Obama has only raised it by 41% as I listed above. Reagan & likely Roosevelt have the record for the highest increase.

Of my post.your response only addressed the most irrelevant piece of it.