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Old 10-04-2012, 05:46 PM   #1
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Traffic or content (which is the king, has this question been answered already?)

Imho traffic is the king. Why?

If you have content but 0 traffic there is no chance that you will get a sale.
If you have traffic but have 0 content you theoretically can get a sale.

Ok, forget zeros:

If you have super quality content but shitty traffic you won't likely get sales.
If you have super quality traffic but shitty content you would more likely get sales.

Traffic is king over content.
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it's hard to make traffic without content.
But if you can, it's ok anyway (ad)

If you have content, you can make traffic (affiliate program)
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content is king.
fair enough, but could you elaborate why?
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fair enough, but could you elaborate why?
why else would someone visit a site?
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If you have content, you can make traffic (affiliate program)
You're not "making" traffic, you are BUYING it from someone else via commission.

If I don't like someones content I can move my traffic with much less effort than it takes to produce new content.

Traffic is king. PIRODIORSDRIOD.
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You're not "making" traffic, you are BUYING it from someone else via commission.

If I don't like someones content I can move my traffic with much less effort than it takes to produce new content.

Traffic is king. PIRODIORSDRIOD.
Content is King, you said it, you will move your traffic always to someonelses content.
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Content is King, you said it, you will move your traffic always to someonelses content.
So his traffic is king - he can chose whatever content he wants to send his traffic to. And all those content holders will ask him to send his traffic their way.
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So his traffic is king - he can chose whatever content he wants to send his traffic to. And all those content holders will ask him to send his traffic their way.
Depends ....
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If you have content but 0 traffic there is no chance that you will get a sale.

Traffic is easy to get, people here will sell you tons. Getting traffic is easy.

If you have traffic but have 0 content you theoretically can get a sale.

How do you get traffic or does the person selling it get it. Then how do you get a sale with 0 content? Remember 0, no links, banners, nothing.

If you have super quality content but shitty traffic you won't likely get sales.

Who will waste quality traffic on shitty content? I can get sales from super quality content with no traffic. I email sponsors, to do it best I need a website and posts (content) to get traffic to my site and get known.

If you have super quality traffic but shitty content you would more likely get sales.

And you would be a fool.


To get traffic, you need content as a blank page will get 0 traffic. To sell something to traffic you need content as a blank page will get 0 sign ups.

The decline of most peoples income, isn't because of a lack or abundance of traffic. It because of content.

Ultimately, traffic are people who no one can control. They will look at content and pass over it or stay. They will click a link because of content, browse on that site because of content, buy or not because of content, stay billing or leave because of content.

A page with no content gets no traffic, money or sales.

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So his traffic is king - he can chose whatever content he wants to send his traffic to. And all those content holders will ask him to send his traffic their way.
How does he get traffic with his blank page?

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in 2012 traffic is king.
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How do you get traffic?
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How do you get traffic?
You put a link anywhere online that says "watch people fuck" or do any of the other infinite number of things you can do to get traffic with zero content.

Hard to understand how anyone can be so fucking stupid and stubborn.

Fucking hell man.
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OK, let's do this from the beginning. CONTENT came first. If there had not been any content, then the Internet wouldn't have kept growing. No use in having a communication medium that doesn't yield any results.

That being said, in today's market TRAFFIC is king. Kill all the content on the Internet and you still have the traffic. Anyone who puts up the shittiest content at that point will still get the traffic and make sales. Same with porn, kill all the porn online now and there will be lots of people creating content with their cell phones, thus attracting traffic and banking on it.

So to all shooters arguing no one would get traffic without your precious high-end content, up yours!
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So to all shooters arguing no one would get traffic without your precious high-end content, up yours!
fortunately i am not one of those

but i see my clients who do have a lot of traffic and they are able to monetize our content.

and it's our job to make the content so good that our clients make their investment back and then some.

thats how i see it
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You put a link anywhere online that says "watch people fuck" or do any of the other infinite number of things you can do to get traffic with zero content.

Hard to understand how anyone can be so fucking stupid and stubborn.

Fucking hell man.
You put text content up.

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That being said, in today's market TRAFFIC is king. Kill all the content on the Internet and you still have the traffic.
Millions of people surfing white pages. Gotya.

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Yes content still comes first.

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Kill all the porn online and there will still be porn online. No you lost me there.

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So to all shooters arguing no one would get traffic without your precious high-end content, up yours!
And all the traffic jockeys arguing no one would get a sale without their precious traffic.

While constantly uploading content, to show content to the traffic to send it to a site with content that hopefully they will like so the traffic jockeys can get paid.

The day any of you brainiacs can get a single $1 with a blank page is the day you will be right. You need content to make a sale and don't tell me content is easy to get. I can buy 50,000 hits for $50

You can't buy 50,000 images or 50,000 minutes (833 hours) of video for $50. Unless you steal it.

Quality traffic is apparently driven by 100s of you, or maybe some are bragging. There are never 100s of quality shooters around. Point and shoot guy yes. I'm talking Madalton, Viv, Jimm, me, Dean, Hicks. Not DVTimes.

No wonder this business is sliding around the U bend. It's this attitude towards the product and the only thing the customers care about. That's led to it's demise.
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You put a link anywhere online that says "watch people fuck" or do any of the other infinite number of things you can do to get traffic with zero content.

Hard to understand how anyone can be so fucking stupid and stubborn.

Fucking hell man.
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Content is the lowest common denominator in making MONEY, content gets you eyes, it does not make you money. Hell even in the glory days of magazines, magazines did not make their money from "sales" of the magazine, that usually did not even pay for production costs. MONEY was made on the advertising a mag could sell.

MONEY is king.
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MONEY is king.
Bingo.

BTW, I haven't bought or used content in over 5 years, yet I control over 8 million hits per day. Traffic is more important that content....
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Content is a tool to get traffic and sales.
Traffic is a tool needed to get sales.
It's pretty simple.
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Bingo.

BTW, I haven't bought or used content in over 5 years, yet I control over 8 million hits per day. Traffic is more important that content....
Are you saying you do not use content on your sites where you get traffic to? White page sites?
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depends on what your job is in the industry. traffic doesn't mean much to a content producer. and content doesn't mean much to guys who circle jerk people, sell ads, and steal content.

what is "king" is relative to what your place in the industry is.
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Bingo.

BTW, I haven't bought or used content in over 5 years, yet I control over 8 million hits per day. Traffic is more important that content....
How do you get traffic, where do you send it and what makes the traffic buy?

A persons personal King is what he needed most to get a sale. I needed to find cute attractive 18-22 year olds. The rest was easy.

Sponsors, affiliates need content that will make people come and spend money. Even if they don't pay for content, they still need it more than anything.

Maybe King is money. Can someone explain how they make money in porn without customers spending money on content?
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lol Content obviously, moreso now with our tube-friends bombarding peoples eyes. The more creative the better to capture that audience and a fan. The smart ones can use that to garner great rewards!
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lol Content obviously, moreso now with our tube-friends bombarding peoples eyes. The more creative the better to capture that audience and a fan. The smart ones can use that to garner great rewards!
Always was, always will be. No money is paid by a free surfer, even if an affiliate sells traffic, the money comes from a paying surfer.

So fucking biz 101 why are we still arguing about it?
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Look at Brazzers, , look what made them king, great content, great content , great content,, spend money on content with good shooters make a return, let Uncle Joe shoot the content ]= recipe for failure...
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