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Old 07-26-2012, 10:58 AM   #1
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Let me start by saying I'm sure this thread will attract a lot of drama, and there will those who will want to flame me over what's happened. However I will not respond and argue, I am simply here to set the record straight and be honest with people... There will also be those that will say "we told you so" and again you are more than in your right to do so, as you did !

As some will remember we went into partnership some time again with Media Revenue, a lot of people warned us at the time and there were plenty of comments about laying with dogs and getting fleas ! We knew at the time that there were some reasons why people were saying this, but to be frank we had no choice but to do the partnership.

Some people may not like to hear this, but apart from about 5% of people actually make the real money, and the others either dont make the money they make out to, or need to ! We have always worked hard to shoot the content and build the sites without any real reward ! Partnering seemed like a option too good to pass up !

Imagine your a car manufacturer selling 1 car a year, and ford come knocking on your door, where you know you will sell thousands, would you turn them away ? To us it was the only opportunity to be successful, and before people start talking morals, this is the porn industry... and in most industrys, and most big companies, the morals are not always a front runner ahead of cold hard profit.

To be honest it has been a battle to even remain in business, this is our second failed partnership, yes I know we should of learnt from our first mistake. We had partnered with Traffic Gigolos on our then program Pixel Bucks. To say that partnership bombed would be a understatement ! But through that partnership I got to know Terrence Thurber who promised me the Media Revenue deal would not run the same course...

Alas for us that as been the case, of course they would have a very different story I am sure... but for us things were not done right and the program was all but left to die. We have not received any funds through our partnership since April.

Because of this we had started the process of disolving the partnership, which as been a long and drawn out process. We have been working closely with CCBill and Nats to move things over onto our servers and get new billing in place for the sites.

We had believed that things were still in place for the sites, but it was brought to my attention today that the sites were not billing. On further investigation it appears Media Revenue lost their billing in some part, and there was an announcement about that on here (not by them I dont believe) I would like to thank Roald at FreeOnes for bringing this to my attention...

I would suggest every one removes their links until we can get the new billing in place. We have spoken to CCBill and Nats about this, and are pretty confident we can get a new billing solution in place quickly, our tech guy is working on this as we speak. The new system will be a Nat's system driven by CCBill, all payments will be handled by CCBill. This does mean there will be no PPS for now... but something we may explore once every thing is back on track.

I dont really know what I can do to make up for this situation... we're not a big company and dont have a bucket of money to throw at people, as I said at the moment I am just thankful we're still in business... Maybe we can increase every one's %'s for a period to make up for it a little, not sure what you all think about that, I know it's probably not what you are all wanting... but I am trying.

I am sure a lot of you will not promote us again, I am sure a lot stopped promoting us when we partnered with Media Revenue... but I am just trying to let people know the situation and be honest with you all. I hope that when we have things in place, some people will give us a chance, I do believe we have good content and good sites, and it's unsaturated so there is still definetly money to be made.

We're not looking for Sympathy, I am old enough and ugly enough to know what I was getting into, I had hoped it would turn out different... but it didn't ! I am trying to work hard and make it as successful as I can, no one is more gutter how things have gone than me...

Right I think that's it... hopefully I aint missed nothing. I have had to write this twice, as the first time GFY logged me out... and I lost all the text which tilted me... so I hope I included every thing I intended to, if any one has any questions and I can answer them then I will...

Thanks for listening...
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Old 07-26-2012, 11:10 AM   #2
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Sorry to hear that. You surely caught a lot of flak when you initially announced your partnership with MR and I have a feeling you'll catch just as much this time around.

I wish you the best of luck in the future, with your business and selection of business partners.
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Good luck. You should post the contact info for every Media Revenue employee that you've ever dealt with right here in this thread.
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Old 07-26-2012, 11:16 AM   #5
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Old 07-26-2012, 11:25 AM   #6
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Old 07-26-2012, 11:34 AM   #7
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Seems like a fair post and if I had some traffic I'd wait until you were squared away. So make sure to announce when things are on track and maybe some people will hit you up who have some decent clicks.
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good content, bad choice, I told you so.

Its nice to see humility on GFY every now and then. So many of you lack it.
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At least you own the domains/content and you can get em back up.
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Guys Seriously...

Seriously you dont know how your initial reactions warm my frekkin heart... I really do appreciate the warm comments of support... Yes I made a decision in the hope things would work out... but your right a lot of you told me what would happen

I am determined to get this on track and make things right however I can... thanks again for all your support and messages in private Feeling the GFY love
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The best post you've done on GFY steve, takes alot of guts to write all that.. knowing the backlash which may come your way.

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I fucking hate this attitude.
Obviously you are entitled to your opinion... but I am afraid to say in the cold hard real world this is fact... not just in the porn industry either.

Most industries, and the bigger the company, I am afraid to tell you that "morals" do not win over "profit" we can harp on about a perfect world, but a perfect world does not exist...

For 10 years I tried to do things the so called right way, with little to no success (who knows maybe I just suck) but I had to do something, it was go work at McDonalds or partner up...

Feed The kids, keep a roof over their head... ect ect... it wasn't getting done the way we was doing things, we took a gamble and it didn't pay off. Am I going to appologise for doing it, NO... am I going to admit I got it right, YES... that's the reason for this thread.

But it's call Bro... I know some will come and slam us, and maybe we deserve it, all I know is I want to work now to get things going in the right direction, and understand I may have to take a few butt kickings in the meantime...
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The best post you've done on GFY steve, takes alot of guts to write all that.. knowing the backlash which may come your way.

Hope you can put it all back to together

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Hey Grisey... your post means a lot, as I know we've not always seen eye to eye and it would of been easy for you to flame this thread...

I have to admit we got it wrong, I cant believe how things turned out... but facts are facts... I know a lot of people warned us, but I had hoped (and yes hope is a bad plan but sometimes it's all we have) it would work out... it wasn't greed, it was just a desire to be able to provide for my family... And no this isn't a X-Factor/Got Talent back story... the fact is I care for my elderly mum and dad and two of my sisters, one who has special needs... I will do what it takes to allow them a stress free life...

Anyways I am going to be on all night if any one has any questions or if there's anything else I can field... we're working fast on getting something in place for those who want to promote us still...
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Good post, you live and learn. I'm sure you will find success as you have great content, fantastic sites and you are genuinely a nice person.

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Obviously you are entitled to your opinion... but I am afraid to say in the cold hard real world this is fact... not just in the porn industry either.

Most industries, and the bigger the company, I am afraid to tell you that "morals" do not win over "profit" we can harp on about a perfect world, but a perfect world does not exist...
You missed my point. My only problem is justifying your morals because "it's the porn industry", as if that gives you a right to be shady.

Just own your decisions and don't blame it on the industry.
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Hey Grisey... your post means a lot, as I know we've not always seen eye to eye and it would of been easy for you to flame this thread...

I have to admit we got it wrong, I cant believe how things turned out... but facts are facts... I know a lot of people warned us, but I had hoped (and yes hope is a bad plan but sometimes it's all we have) it would work out... it wasn't greed, it was just a desire to be able to provide for my family... And no this isn't a X-Factor/Got Talent back story... the fact is I care for my elderly mum and dad and two of my sisters, one who has special needs... I will do what it takes to allow them a stress free life...

Anyways I am going to be on all night if any one has any questions or if there's anything else I can field... we're working fast on getting something in place for those who want to promote us still...
Pointless flamming you, you feel like shit already... I ain't going to gain anything by slating you some more.

Me and mike warned you the first time with TG and they just wanted your sites to card bang, MR were the same.

Only person that can make a sucess is yourself, if you put to much into for others to do it for you... then your gonna get caught out.

Goodluck sorting it all out... gonna be a few allnighters ahead for you

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I wish you guys nothing but success, if I can help in any way you know where to find me.
Hey Kenny...

Thanks for the kind words... I really appreciate it as I know we've only chatted a few times

We always try and do right by people, some times I get told I am too soft infact, but I like to treat people how I want to be treated... positive karma

And thanks to every one else, I am really blown away by the positive vibe of this thread... makes me actually believe more in not giving up and making a go of it...
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Pointless flamming you, you feel like shit already... I ain't going to gain anything by slating you some more.

Me and mike warned you the first time with TG and they just wanted your sites to card bang, MR were the same.

Only person that can make a sucess is yourself, if you put to much into for others to do it for you... then your gonna get caught out.

Goodluck sorting it all out... gonna be a few allnighters ahead for you

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Still thanks for not kicking me whilst I am down... as I said I am blown away by the comments in this thread to date...

And yes I am going to be tied to the desk for sure, and not in a good kinky way either... lol, 16 hour days for the next couple of weeks getting stuff back in place...
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Still thanks for not kicking me whilst I am down...
Sincere people won't kick you when you're down. Everyone has made plenty of mistakes, it's part of life and business. Sometimes you take a risk and it doesn't work out. But now you know. You tried, it failed, move on. Hopefully you learned something from the whole experience.
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Best of luck - tomorow is another day and with this attitude you'll make things right.
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Old 07-26-2012, 02:58 PM   #41
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Any chance to receive payments for sales generated in 2012? Support messages goes unanswered
Can I make it clear we have at no stage this year, or last for a matter been in charge of billing... all billing was handled by Media Revenue... if you have a dispute with them then you really need to speak with them.

Sorry not trying to deflect the situation... but we are not a big company, and are not in a position to pay people any money owing to them from Media Revenue, no matter how much I wish we was...

They were also the company receiving the support emails... I'm sorry your emails to them fell on deaf ears... Trust me we were often ignored as well...

We have now taken the program back fully, and look to have all the intergration done by 1st August, hopefully some of you will support us and prove to Media Revenue the program really did have potential if they had made the effort... We will switch up the percentage once things are in place to reward those who are standing by us
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Old 07-26-2012, 03:04 PM   #42
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Can I make it clear we have at no stage this year, or last for a matter been in charge of billing... all billing was handled by Media Revenue... if you have a dispute with them then you really need to speak with them.

Sorry not trying to deflect the situation... but we are not a big company, and are not in a position to pay people any money owing to them from Media Revenue, no matter how much I wish we was...

They were also the company receiving the support emails... I'm sorry your emails to them fell on deaf ears... Trust me we were often ignored as well...

We have now taken the program back fully, and look to have all the intergration done by 1st August, hopefully some of you will support us and prove to Media Revenue the program really did have potential if they had made the effort... We will switch up the percentage once things are in place to reward those who are standing by us
OK, sounds fair

Do you plan to keep the same url's for links? I'm too lazy to bring them down if you start counting hits/sales again in August?

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Old 07-26-2012, 03:04 PM   #43
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Exchanged morals for money now you have neither.
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OK, sounds honest

Do you plan to keep the same url's for links? I'm too lazy to bring them down if you start counting hits/sales again in August?
Speaking to Nats/CCBill I believe there will be no need to change links... but I obviously want to clarify that 100%... Our tech guy will post when he has had confirmation...

We are keen to get this absoulutly right for every one concerned

And L-Pink thanks for your input, you are presuming I had morals to start with... and furthermore that we made money, you are drastically wrong on both accounts
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Steve, we are still buying photo sets. If that helps the money flow, you know where to contact us.
Not sure if our girlies are quite big enough for you guys... but I will drop ya a mail

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Stating the very obvious but MR really are a special breed of scum, eh?
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Imagine your a car manufacturer selling 1 car a year, and ford come knocking on your door, where you know you will sell thousands, would you turn them away ? To us it was the only opportunity to be successful, and before people start talking morals, this is the porn industry... and in most industrys, and most big companies, the morals are not always a front runner ahead of cold hard profit.
I stopped at this cop-out. Then again it's fuck all to do with me, and I'm just in this thread killing time while waiting for a script to finish uploading. Carry on.
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I stopped at this cop-out. Then again it's fuck all to do with me, and I'm just in this thread killing time while waiting for a script to finish uploading. Carry on.
I like your AVATAR, I used to love that show...
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Old 07-26-2012, 03:51 PM   #49
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Uhhh, how do I get butt hurt on this one? Please refresh my memory, thanks.
You guys get all upset whenever anything to do with banging cards/shady x-sells (same thing) competes for airtime with your whack-a-mole.
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You guys get all upset whenever anything to do with banging cards/shady x-sells (same thing) competes for airtime with your whack-a-mole.
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Whatever. I don't have "shady cross sales" or "bang cards," and there is no "you guys," so go fuck yourself, trollio.
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