Striking at WalMart

[Minte]

I turn on the local news and see that walmart workers are striking in Milwaukee this morning.. These people must think that because Obama won he's got their back on this.

I am going to laugh when they all lose their jobs. Don't they know how easy it is to replace them?

Merry Christmas Walmart employees.

[Archibald_Tuttle]

They must have been smoking hash last night.

[L-Pink]

I wish all of them would go on strike. Wal-Mart workers’ reliance on public assistance due to substandard wages and benefits has become a form of indirect public subsidy to the company. In effect, Wal-Mart is shifting part of its labor costs onto the public.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

I wish all of them would go on strike. Wal-Mart workers? reliance on public assistance due to substandard wages and benefits has become a form of indirect public subsidy to the company. In effect, Wal-Mart is shifting part of its labor costs onto the public.

+1

That taxpayer subsidy to Wal-Mart (WMT) $16.99 billion
2011 Annual Net Profit -- corporate welfare ...

[woj]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

+1

That taxpayer subsidy to Wal-Mart (WMT) $16.99 billion
2011 Annual Net Profit -- corporate welfare ...

Walmart profit Margin (ttm): 3.57%

and besides, that logic is ridiculous, so walmart provides millions of jobs, and somehow people manage to label them as the bad guy, wtf?

no one is forcing people to take on these jobs, if they don't want to stock shelves for $7/hr maybe they should get some skills so they could get a better paying job?

[Relentless]

Walmart is a job for a high school kid. It isn't a career. They only get customers via price. It's not like they can attract customers through store ambiance. People who want to raise wages at Walmart are the same ones who want Hooters to also hire 70 year old women with bad teeth and a mastectomy to serve beer and wings. Walmart isn't the problem. People shopping there and allowing them to put mom and pop stores out of business to get a few dollars In savings are the problem. Every dollar you spend is a vote, use your money to get what you want while keeping local businesses healthy and your community will thrive. Walmart won't raise wages, but people don't need to shop there either.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by woj

Walmart profit Margin (ttm): 3.57%

and besides, that logic is ridiculous, so walmart provides millions of jobs, and somehow people manage to label them as the bad guy, wtf?

no one is forcing people to take on these jobs, if they don't want to stock shelves for $7/hr maybe they should get some skills so they could get a better paying job?

When I was 17 I got paid $2.35 in 1972 (Union Wages) working part time in a discount store -- that would be $12.87 in 2011. (Shows you how bad inflation (the hidden tax) has been.)

Walmart, Target and others are paying $8 - $10 average. If that is not a spiral down I don't know what is. People that work at these stores, if they are single mothers, qualify for state and federal subsidy programs in many places -- who do think pays that money that they get?

[Phoenix]

walmart should be forced out of business....then we could go back to nice stores...and have nice products, not always made in the cheapest place.

i personally never shop there anyway
maybe time to do something with my domains madincan and madebycdn

[woj]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

When I was 17 I got paid $2.35 in 1972 (Union Wages) working part time in a discount store -- that would be $12.87 in 2011. (Shows you how bad inflation (the hidden tax) has been.)

Walmart, Target and others are paying $8 - $10 average. If that is not a spiral down I don't know what is. People that work at these stores, if the are single mothers qualify for state and federal subsidy programs in many places -- who do think pays that money that they get?

You view it as "spiral down", I view it as just a fact of life that things change... if someone can't make a living doing no-skill labor anymore, then instead of pointing fingers and trying to blame someone obviously they need to pursue some other career, seems like common sense to me...

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Minte

I turn on the local news and see that walmart workers are striking in Milwaukee this morning.. These people must think that because Obama won he's got their back on this.

I am going to laugh when they all lose their jobs. Don't they know how easy it is to replace them?

Merry Christmas Walmart employees.

You sound mad that the magic underwear didn't pull through for Mitt. Maybe next time..

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Minte

These people must think that because Obama won he's got their back on this.

What in the world makes you think Obama has do with any of this?

You don't think they would have gone on strike if Mitt won?

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Rochard

What in the world makes you think Obama has do with any of this?

You don't think they would have gone on strike if Mitt won?

Had Magic Underwear Mitt won, they they obviously would of just been sore losers and striking because Obama didn't win..

[Minte]

Originally Posted by crockett

You sound mad that the magic underwear didn't pull through for Mitt. Maybe next time..

My new custom Jackson was just delivered by Fed Ex this morning. I am not only not mad I am having a really fun morning. Unlike those bozo's walking with signs in front of Walmart stores.. It's a balmy 28 here today.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by woj

Walmart profit Margin (ttm): 3.57%

and besides, that logic is ridiculous, so walmart provides millions of jobs, and somehow people manage to label them as the bad guy, wtf?

no one is forcing people to take on these jobs, if they don't want to stock shelves for $7/hr maybe they should get some skills so they could get a better paying job?

I used to think that Wal Mart was pure evil.

We had a local family owned market that was here for like sixty years. The entire community was sad when they closed, and then furious when Wal Mart opened up a "neighborhood grocery" in it's place.

Then reality hit us. The family owned business hired mostly family members, and everyone else who worked there was paid pennies and not given health benefits. The store was rather large - taking a small city block - was sixty years old and in disrepair. The prices were high, and the store served mostly older people who couldn't make the trip to grocery store on the other side of town. Now instead we have a professionally run business that has only been open a few months and has donated well over $100k to local charities, including my kid's sports team - the old store never donated to us even though we asked every year and two of their kids played football for us.

Say what you want about Wal Mart, but we went from a old crappy store with high prices that was usually empty to a new bright and clean store with low prices that has a full parking lot every day - and gives back to our community.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by woj

Walmart profit Margin (ttm): 3.57%

and besides, that logic is ridiculous, so walmart provides millions of jobs, and somehow people manage to label them as the bad guy, wtf?

no one is forcing people to take on these jobs, if they don't want to stock shelves for $7/hr maybe they should get some skills so they could get a better paying job?

like small mom and pop shops?

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

I wish all of them would go on strike. Wal-Mart workers? reliance on public assistance due to substandard wages and benefits has become a form of indirect public subsidy to the company. In effect, Wal-Mart is shifting part of its labor costs onto the public.

Exactly. Fuck WalMart. They pay shit. Cut hours to avoid paying benefits. And ASSIST employees with collecting welfare benefits.

What a shitty company.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by woj

You view it as "spiral down", I view it as just a fact of life that things change... if someone can't make a living doing no-skill labor anymore, then instead of pointing fingers and trying to blame someone obviously they need to pursue some other career, seems like common sense to me...

So, your don't mind that you tax money is subsiding a profitable corporation's workers low wages. I guess it is better than eating the people that are only capable of doing unskilled labor.

Be a bitch; Who would clean our toilets, collect our garbage, pick our lettuce, stock the shelves in our grocery stores ... We would be busy doing these menial things and so would our customers -- our time spent in the wrong places. We wouldn't make shit, our customers would not have shit to spend (money or free time) and the economy would collapse. Sounds like a well thought out plan.

[The Dawg]

Originally Posted by Minte

I turn on the local news and see that walmart workers are striking in Milwaukee this morning.. These people must think that because Obama won he's got their back on this.

I am going to laugh when they all lose their jobs. Don't they know how easy it is to replace them?

Merry Christmas Walmart employees.

So Obama is the cause of the strike? You sound very bitter...

So there is a guy in the White House that you feel isn't working in your best interest.
You think he cares nothing about your "plight".

Imagine that.

[MaDalton]

i was away for a week and that Obama/Romney thing is still going on? :-/

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Rochard

and gives back to our community.

No they don't. They don't give back shit. Local businesses sponsor little league teams, the owners re spend the profits in restaurants, other small stores, houses they buy, etc. walmart transfers their daily revenue OUT of your city never to be re spent there again.

As far as the nice new location, just wait till walmart moves to a newer store and leaves behind a huge empty building which they have done in every city nationwide.

[woj]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

So, your don't mind that you tax money is subsiding a profitable corporation's workers low wages. I guess it is better than eating the people that are only capable of doing unskilled labor.

Be a bitch; Who would clean our toilets, collect our garbage, pick our lettuce, stock the shelves in our grocery stores ... We would be busy doing these menial things and so would our customers -- our time spent in the wrong places. We wouldn't make shit, our customers would not have shit to spend (money or free time) and the economy would collapse. Sounds like a well thought out plan.

I don't see how anything is getting subsidized, walmart pays exactly what the market wage is for those jobs... if anything is getting subsidized, it's not walmart's fault, it's the government's fault... so blame the government...

and no one says "eat them", they should be trained so they become capable of doing slightly more productive work than just stocking shelves... it's only a matter of time before we create robots to do that, or workout how to train monkeys to do those jobs...

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by woj

I don't see how anything is getting subsidized, walmart pays exactly what the market wage is for those jobs... if anything is getting subsidized, it's not walmart's fault, it's the government's fault... so blame the government...

and no one says "eat them", they should be trained so they become capable of doing slightly more productive work than just stocking shelves... it's only a matter of time before we create robots to do that, or workout how to train monkeys to do those jobs...

As our nations largest retailer and employer walmart sets the wage level. And they have set it so taxpayers pick up the slack. And thinking better jobs are available in small towns that have seen most small businesses close in walmarts wake is wishful thinking.

America is full of hard working ordinary people that would love to have better jobs but need to support their families with whatever they can find. These are the ones walmart uses.

I personally know a woman that's an assistant manager in a Ky. location. She has been there since they opened 20 some years ago. She makes less that $15. an hour. Worse she won't be getting any bonuses for years as the expensive repair work on a huge faulty retaining wall on the property is being assessed as operating costs for hers store. Any excuse to lower labor costs is walmarts policy.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by woj

[o]r workout how to train monkeys to do those jobs...

I don't want to imagine where those trained monkey garbage collectors will toss my garbage can lids ...

[Sly]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

I personally know a woman that's an assistant manager in a Ky. location. She has been there since they opened 20 some years ago. She makes less that $15. an hour. Worse she won't be getting any bonuses for years as the expensive repair work on a huge faulty retaining wall on the property is being assessed as operating costs for hers store. Any excuse to lower labor costs is walmarts policy.

Assistant managers typically don't make very much money. Manager salaries are all over the place as well. Go to any neighborhood mom-and-pop shop that has a few employees. Ask what their "assistant managers" make and if they have any benefit options at all.

I have met countless "assistant managers" that make $10 an hour. No benefits. No bonuses.

Your argument is with the retail business, not Walmart.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

I don't want to imagine where those trained monkey garbage collectors will toss my garbage can lids ...

I remember watching the garbage men when I was a kid. There was three of them. One driving the truck, two on the back of the truck. The truck would drive along, each guy on the back would jump off and run along the street grabbing cans.

Now there is one man. The driver. The truck as an arm. The driver pulls up alongside the can, lowers the arm, grabs the can. Job is done. Fast, efficient, less expensive.

I do not subscribe to the idea that we need to stymie innovation and efficiency so that we can give people low-end jobs. I subscribe to the idea that we need to train our people better, so they can do better, using their brains.

As much as people drive me crazy, they are not idiots. We can become a better society when we stop expecting so little from our people and start pushing them to reach their full potential.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by woj

I don't see how anything is getting subsidized, walmart pays exactly what the market wage is for those jobs... if anything is getting subsidized, it's not walmart's fault, it's the government's fault... so blame the government...

and no one says "eat them", they should be trained so they become capable of doing slightly more productive work than just stocking shelves... it's only a matter of time before we create robots to do that, or workout how to train monkeys to do those jobs...

there are some people are just not bright enough to do skilled work. they have learning disablities, fetal alcohol syndrom, slight retarded, etc. in the past these people were able to find decent paying jobs and be a part of society but in the ever growing elimination of these jobs, they are destined to be on social assistance for life.

the ironic thing about all this is, people want to take more and more money out of education, grants, scholarships, etc yet want everyone to somehow be magically skilled at whatever jobs happen to be plentiful at the time. you gotta get them educated while they are young or else, they're doomed. try training a 50 year old guy who was doing the same thing for the past 30 years. they don't take to it well. if society wants a skilled workforce, they have to help out a bit.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

there are some people are just not bright enough to do skilled work. they have learning disablities, fetal alcohol syndrom, slight retarded, etc. in the past these people were able to find decent paying jobs and be a part of society but in the ever growing elimination of these jobs, they are destined to be on social assistance for life.

You are talking about exceptions to the rule, not the norm. Are you telling me that the tens of thousands, probably even hundreds of thousands, of people working at Walmart are incapable of learning new skills and becoming more productive people, not just at work but also in society?

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

No they don't. They don't give back shit. Local businesses sponsor little league teams, the owners re spend the profits in restaurants, other small stores, houses they buy, etc. walmart transfers their daily revenue OUT of your city never to be re spent there again.

As far as the nice new location, just wait till walmart moves to a newer store and leaves behind a huge empty building which they have done in every city nationwide.

When you compare it to the old store the differences are staggering.

They expect the new store will pay $3mil in city taxes in the first year. I doubt the original market made that in a year, no less paid more than $1mil in taxes. I doubt they made $1mil.

So this old store had two of their kids on our football team, yet couldn't find it in their heart to donate $100. At the same time Wal Mart came in and donated $20k to our team - our biggest sponsor.

We have a family here who was very involved in our community - you know the type. Their three kids were on all of the sports teams, after school events, and they were on the PTA and took part in our sports leagues, etc etc etc. The perfect all American family. Three years ago their high school son committed suicide. What did the old rainbow market do? Nothing. This family started a suicide awareness charity which is partially combined with another local school charity, and Wal Mart found out about it and made a huge donation to them as well.

I understand that Wal Mart has a public relations team that comes into the community and figures these things out and makes a big splash, but they've done more in three months than the old store they replaced has done in forty years.

[crockett]

I'm just amazed that Walmart pays so little.. I'm not sure if it's legit or not, but I just read an article that said the average Walmart Employee makes only $8.81/hr.

My stepmother and her daughter both worked at Target, in fact my step mother retired from there about 3 years ago. While it wasn't a great sum of money I know she was making somewhere around $17 or $18/hr. Maybe a little more I'm not sure.

I've always shopped at Target over Walmart just because Target always seemed like a cleaner store and has a little bit better stuff in most cases.

I think I'll continue shopping at Target when ever I need something from a Dept store, because at least they pay their employees, give them benefits and so on. I'll pay a little more to shop at Target just for that reason.

[qwe]

Originally Posted by Relentless

People shopping there and allowing them to put mom and pop stores out of business to get a few dollars In savings are the problem. Every dollar you spend is a vote, use your money to get what you want while keeping local businesses healthy and your community will thrive.

let me tell you something about mom and pop stores (not all but most) when there's no competition, they are greedy fuckers who will bend you over... if there was no big super stores such as walmart you would be paying over 50% more with your mom and pops stores (not few dollars), over the year you would be paying thousands more...I shop at walmart and yes every dollar I spend it's is my vote that I want prices lower and i don't give a fuck about mom and pops stores... community benefits more from a walmart with millions of dollars in taxes then few pops stores with a joke in taxes ... it's same with everything else, competition brings prices way down

[Tom_PM]

Walmart knows that the #1 expense of any business is EMPLOYEE SALARY. Therefore they routinely only hire part time people (don't even have to pay health care) and temporary employees.

By the way, to immediately decide that a striking person is because of Obama is... well I won't even say what it is. Lets just all decide that the president of the united states has nothing whatsoever to do with this and live our lives.

[TheSquealer]

There is a solution if you don't want to work at Wallmart. Don't work at Wallmart.

The market is the market. If people weren't willing to work for so little, they would have to raise wages. It's a zero talent job for uneducated and unskilled people and represents the lowest of the low in retail. Just like fast food or any other low wage job for unskilled workers, t is supposed to be a stepping stone to something better. Not a career.

[Tom_PM]

Yeah, just don't work there. It's not their fault that you work there.

This is of course why UNIONS were created and formed what we call the middle class in America, but fuck it. Just quit, you idiots.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

I wish all of them would go on strike. Wal-Mart workers? reliance on public assistance due to substandard wages and benefits has become a form of indirect public subsidy to the company. In effect, Wal-Mart is shifting part of its labor costs onto the public.

My daughter has a boyfriend whose mom works at Wal-Mart. She's not on "public assistance".

What are the numbers on that? I've known a lot of people who worked at WalMart over the years who would come out on weekends and see me playing in my band at bars.
They weren't on "public assistance".

Doesn't WalMart have to at least pay minimum wage?

Jesus, people get a job and STILL want to be coddled? I don't get it. I played in bands (never had a "real" job) and we traveled all over the country from 1978 to the mid 1990's.

A GREAT week would be $400 for each player. But an average week was a hundred bucks. We had a 5 piece band and 3 man road crew. We stayed 4 to a motel room and unless you found a girl to feed you, we ate bologna sandwiches.

But we made it. And never ONCE asked for any "public assistance". I'd say the people working at Walmart have it made compared to what we did. And we didn't get days off...we played (and drove from town to town) 7 days a week, every week.

Anyway...do you have a link to the statistics on Walmart employees needing "public assistance"??? I was unaware that folks who had jobs could even do that.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

If people weren't willing to work for so little, they would have to raise wages.

i hope you don't seriously believe that.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Yeah, just don't work there. It's not their fault that you work there.

This is of course why UNIONS were created and formed what we call the middle class in America, but fuck it. Just quit, you idiots.

Oh man . . . no; unions were formed because there were not laws to protect workers like there are now.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by crockett

I'm just amazed that Walmart pays so little.. I'm not sure if it's legit or not, but I just read an article that said the average Walmart Employee makes only $8.81/hr.

My stepmother and her daughter both worked at Target, in fact my step mother retired from there about 3 years ago. While it wasn't a great sum of money I know she was making somewhere around $17 or $18/hr. Maybe a little more I'm not sure.

I've always shopped at Target over Walmart just because Target always seemed like a cleaner store and has a little bit better stuff in most cases.

I think I'll continue shopping at Target when ever I need something from a Dept store, because at least they pay their employees, give them benefits and so on. I'll pay a little more to shop at Target just for that reason.

I really don't mean to be defending Wal Mart or anything, but there is a huge difference between an entry level employee making minimum wage and someone who worked twenty years at Target.

And if you think about it, $17 an hour ain't jack - what's that, $40k a year?

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Anyway...do you have a link to the statistics on Walmart employees needing "public assistance"??? I was unaware that folks who had jobs could even do that.

Lots of TV news stories …. Here are a couple from print.

"Green told the crowded church how in her tenure with Wal-Mart, she's received two raises and is now a manager. She makes $9 an hour ($1 above the laughably-low California minimum wage). She pulled from her pocket three cards she claimed most Wal-Mart employees at her store have: a 10-percent Wal-Mart employee discount card, her employee ID and her EBT card (what used to be called food stamps).
'

Read more: The Herald-Sun - Let s kick Wal Mart off welfare http://www.heraldsun.com/view/full_s...rt-off-welfare

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A 2012 article but quoting a study from 2004 that by now has gotten much worse. In 2004 Walmart workers’ reliance on public assistance programs cost California taxpayers $86 million annually

"The U.C. Berkeley Labor Center crunched the numbers in 2004 and found that Walmart workers’ reliance on public assistance programs cost California taxpayers $86 million annually. The families of Walmart workers used 38 percent more non-health benefits—food stamps, subsidized school lunches—than the families of employees of other large retailers."

http://laborcenter.berkeley.edu/pres...rt_mar12.shtml

Figure in these assistance programs and then think if anyone saved money shopping at the nations largest retailer.

.

[Killswitch]

Originally Posted by Minte

These people must think that because Obama won he's got their back on this.

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by Rochard

What in the world makes you think Obama has do with any of this?

You don't think they would have gone on strike if Mitt won?

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Robbie

A GREAT week would be $400 for each player. But an average week was a hundred bucks. We had a 5 piece band and 3 man road crew. We stayed 4 to a motel room and unless you found a girl to feed you, we ate bologna sandwiches.

But we made it. And never ONCE asked for any "public assistance". I'd say the people working at Walmart have it made compared to what we did. And we didn't get days off...we played (and drove from town to town) 7 days a week, every week.

Sounds like fun really.

Originally Posted by Robbie

Anyway...do you have a link to the statistics on Walmart employees needing "public assistance"??? I was unaware that folks who had jobs could even do that.

They say this about the military too at the lower ranks. Basic pay for a Private in the Army is $20k a year. That sounds like crap, but when you factor in he (she) doesn't pay for housing, medical, power, water, garbage, etc etc etc etc... And that's plenty of money to live off of. The problem is if you have a wife and a child, instantly you will be living under the poverty level. However, no matter what if you are 18 and married with a child you are living under the poverty level.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Lots of TV news stories ?. Here are a couple from print.

"Green told the crowded church how in her tenure with Wal-Mart, she's received two raises and is now a manager. She makes $9 an hour ($1 above the laughably-low California minimum wage). She pulled from her pocket three cards she claimed most Wal-Mart employees at her store have: a 10-percent Wal-Mart employee discount card, her employee ID and her EBT card (what used to be called food stamps).
'

Read more: The Herald-Sun - Let s kick Wal Mart off welfare http://www.heraldsun.com/view/full_s...rt-off-welfare

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A 2012 article but quoting a study from 2004 that by now has gotten much worse. In 2004 Walmart workers? reliance on public assistance programs cost California taxpayers $86 million annually

"The U.C. Berkeley Labor Center crunched the numbers in 2004 and found that Walmart workers? reliance on public assistance programs cost California taxpayers $86 million annually. The families of Walmart workers used 38 percent more non-health benefits?food stamps, subsidized school lunches?than the families of employees of other large retailers."

http://laborcenter.berkeley.edu/pres...rt_mar12.shtml

Figure in these assistance programs and then think if anyone saved money shopping at the nations largest retailer.

.

9 per hour as a manager? jesus

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Robbie

My daughter has a boyfriend whose mom works at Wal-Mart. She's not on "public assistance".

What are the numbers on that? I've known a lot of people who worked at WalMart over the years who would come out on weekends and see me playing in my band at bars.
They weren't on "public assistance".

Doesn't WalMart have to at least pay minimum wage?

Jesus, people get a job and STILL want to be coddled? I don't get it. I played in bands (never had a "real" job) and we traveled all over the country from 1978 to the mid 1990's.

A GREAT week would be $400 for each player. But an average week was a hundred bucks. We had a 5 piece band and 3 man road crew. We stayed 4 to a motel room and unless you found a girl to feed you, we ate bologna sandwiches.

But we made it. And never ONCE asked for any "public assistance". I'd say the people working at Walmart have it made compared to what we did. And we didn't get days off...we played (and drove from town to town) 7 days a week, every week.

Anyway...do you have a link to the statistics on Walmart employees needing "public assistance"??? I was unaware that folks who had jobs could even do that.

I assume you know making $400 is 1978 and making $400 a week now are two very different things. My parents when they first were married would talk about once my dad made $250 they would be set.
Also you were doing that with the hope of becoming a star so it was sacrifice.The guys in Van Halen lived on catsup and hot water. No one works at walmart with the hope of being star. its the hope to survive. Especially if you are in your 40's or 50's and no one else wants you.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

9 per hour as a manager? jesus

That's $1,500 a month. Less taxes, rent, utilities, food, transportation, car insurance, etc. Numbers just don't work so my tax dollars are supposed to come to the rescue so she can survive and continue to make walmart billions in profit?

Anyone not looking at it in this way is deceiving themselves.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Yeah, just don't work there. It's not their fault that you work there.

This is of course why UNIONS were created and formed what we call the middle class in America, but fuck it. Just quit, you idiots.

It was combo of that and the gi bill after ww2. The 50's called the golden years and the boom of the middle class the union made up one third of the work force now they make up about 7 percent. Lots of places walmart is the only option.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

there are some people are just not bright enough to do skilled work. they have learning disablities, fetal alcohol syndrom, slight retarded, etc. in the past these people were able to find decent paying jobs and be a part of society but in the ever growing elimination of these jobs, they are destined to be on social assistance for life.

the ironic thing about all this is, people want to take more and more money out of education, grants, scholarships, etc yet want everyone to somehow be magically skilled at whatever jobs happen to be plentiful at the time. you gotta get them educated while they are young or else, they're doomed. try training a 50 year old guy who was doing the same thing for the past 30 years. they don't take to it well. if society wants a skilled workforce, they have to help out a bit.

A fucking men

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by tony286

I assume you know making $400 is 1978 and making $400 a week now are two very different things. My parents when they first were married would talk about once my dad made $250 they would be set.
Also you were doing that with the hope of becoming a star so it was sacrifice.The guys in Van Halen lived on catsup and hot water. No one works at walmart with the hope of being star. its the hope to survive. Especially if you are in your 40's or 50's and no one else wants you.

I made the $400 at a couple of gigs in 1990. I was a KING for a couple of weeks. lol

As far as "hope to survive", isn't that being a little melodramatic?
It's a job, plain and simple.
And a lot of folks who work there LOVE it at Christmas because they have employee discounts.

Most of the people I see working at Walmart are my age or older. And most of the women working the checkout are married and their husband's have jobs too. Just saying...there are a lot of people in this country who are unemployed and would love to have that Walmart job.

[epitome]

This is the 49th post and I'm still trying to figure out what Obama has to do with strikes since they existed long before him.

[epitome]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

That's $1,500 a month. Less taxes, rent, utilities, food, transportation, car insurance, etc. Numbers just don't work so my tax dollars are supposed to come to the rescue so she can survive and continue to make walmart billions in profit?

Anyone not looking at it in this way is deceiving themselves.

It's not that much because you forgot that they keep her at less than 32 hours so they don't have to give her benefits.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Rochard

They say this about the military too at the lower ranks. Basic pay for a Private in the Army is $20k a year. That sounds like crap, but when you factor in he (she) doesn't pay for housing, medical, power, water, garbage, etc etc etc etc... And that's plenty of money to live off of. The problem is if you have a wife and a child, instantly you will be living under the poverty level.

One of my brothers is in the army. He's in Germany now. He was in Seattle for a couple of years before that.

Has a wife and child. Our tax dollars paid the rent for their home to live in in Seattle. AND flew his wife and daughter to Germany and pays for their housing there too.

They are having a blast and send me postcards from all over Europe (they have been sightseeing at every opportunity).

They are living a great life. He actually went into the military in 2008 because of the horrible economy (he was a carpenter). Now his family is taken care of. They are seeing the world together, and they all have health benefits, etc.

Of course, we the taxpayer are footing the bill for it all. I love them, and I'm happy that they are living a great life. But I think it's WRONG for taxpayers to foot that bill.

(Also, did you know that our own soldiers don't even guard their facilities? It's all outsourced to local companies. Again courtesy of the U.S. taxpayer)