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Old 06-18-2007, 07:38 PM   #1
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YouPorn are posting 50mb full length movies which get over 100k views....

http://www.youporn.com/watch/30801

This is a real problem the industry has to face. I for one think porn tube sites can be ok... They can be used to promote paysites and tease the surfer. If the site is flooded with 30 second advertising clips then its all good but... damn! Posting full length paysite movies is not good for this industry. Torrent sites are just as bad... dont get me started on those.

I know this is kinda like the pot calling the kettle black (because i run a porn forum) but i do what i can to make sure videos like the one above dont make it onto my site and if they do they are deleted.

YouPorn has editorial control over there videos. They weed through the crap submissions daily and post the biggest porn clips the get submitted. Something seriously needs to be done... this site is getting huge and surfers are being exposed to too much free porn.
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Old 06-18-2007, 07:46 PM   #2
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http://www.youporn.com/watch/30801

This is a real problem the industry has to face. I for one think porn tube sites can be ok... They can be used to promote paysites and tease the surfer. If the site is flooded with 30 second advertising clips then its all good but... damn! Posting full length paysite movies is not good for this industry. Torrent sites are just as bad... dont get me started on those.

I know this is kinda like the pot calling the kettle black (because i run a porn forum) but i do what i can to make sure videos like the one above dont make it onto my site and if they do they are deleted.

YouPorn has editorial control over there videos. They weed through the crap submissions daily and post the biggest porn clips the get submitted. Something seriously needs to be done... this site is getting huge and surfers are being exposed to too much free porn.

I am working on something just like this for nobullshitmovies.com


HOWEVER,


The sponsors will be very pleased with the upsell. In fact, I forsee no problems getting approval to post full movies once they see how I operate compared to these other fuckers who are giving it away and NOT upselling.
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Old 06-18-2007, 07:50 PM   #3
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I am working on something just like this for nobullshitmovies.com


HOWEVER,


The sponsors will be very pleased with the upsell. In fact, I forsee no problems getting approval to post full movies once they see how I operate compared to these other fuckers who are giving it away and NOT upselling.
I agree........
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Old 06-18-2007, 07:51 PM   #4
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Aww come on let them jerk off for free at least ONCE!
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Ugh what a TERRIBLE fucking video. The girls voice is so fucking annoying. If I made that garbage I would give it away for free.
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times are a changin', adapt or go home

content like this being available for free is not going away, whether it's legal or not.
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Old 06-18-2007, 08:06 PM   #7
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times are a changin', adapt or go home

content like this being available for free is not going away, whether it's legal or not.
true. But they have no sense. If they just slap a big old link beneath it then they make 10 sales or something...
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times are a changin', adapt or go home

content like this being available for free is not going away, whether it's legal or not.
This is the only industry that considers illegal practices a business model that we have to conform to.
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Old 06-18-2007, 08:17 PM   #9
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true. But they have no sense. If they just slap a big old link beneath it then they make 10 sales or something...
Sounds more like you wish you were doing it.
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Old 06-18-2007, 08:19 PM   #10
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That's a lot of bandwidth they are using. If they are getting very cheap bandwidth, let's say $0.05/GB, that's $0.004 per view or $4/1,000 views.
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Old 06-18-2007, 08:26 PM   #11
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Fuckinhorny.com for the legal teaser video clips embedded with your affiliate ID.
We "Get em hard so they whip out the card".
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Old 06-18-2007, 08:31 PM   #12
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Fuckinhorny.com for the legal teaser video clips embedded with your affiliate ID.
We "Get em hard so they whip out the card".
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i like the idea behind your site but badly implemented imo.
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Old 06-18-2007, 08:40 PM   #13
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i like the idea behind your site but badly implemented imo.
Badly implemented in which manner?
I am interested in what you think.
Constructive criticism is aways welcome.
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Badly implemented in which manner?
I am interested in what you think.
Constructive criticism is aways welcome.
message me sometime, ill gladly chat with you.
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Old 06-18-2007, 08:52 PM   #15
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message me sometime, ill gladly chat with you.
I'll hit you up tomorrow, I would love to get your feedback. Thnx
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Old 06-18-2007, 09:10 PM   #16
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[04:52] ewokpresident: fuckinghorny.com
[04:52] *** Auto-response sent to ewokpresident: I am currently away from the computer.
[04:52] ewokpresident: whats wrong with it???
[04:54] ewokpresident: you asked me to fuckin message you
[04:54] ewokpresident: and here i am
[04:54] ewokpresident: so whats wrong with my site asshole?
[04:56] ewokpresident: FUCKIN ANSWER ME
[04:57] ewokpresident: I PUT HOURS INTO THAT SITE TO HAVE YOU RIP IT DOWN
[04:57] ewokpresident: AND TRY TO DISCREDIT MY NAME ON GOFUCKYOURSELF
[04:57] ewokpresident: IM NICE IN THERE BUT IM WARNING YOU FUCKER
[04:57] ewokpresident: DONT FUCK WITH ME
[04:57] ewokpresident: yeah thats right bitch
[04:58] ewokpresident: im out

lol

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Old 06-18-2007, 09:11 PM   #17
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[04:52] ewokpresident: fuckinghorny.com
[04:52] *** Auto-response sent to ewokpresident: I am currently away from the computer.
[04:52] ewokpresident: whats wrong with it???
[04:54] ewokpresident: you asked me to fuckin message you
[04:54] ewokpresident: and here i am
[04:54] ewokpresident: so whats wrong with my site asshole?
[04:56] ewokpresident: FUCKIN ANSWER ME
[04:57] ewokpresident: I PUT HOURS INTO THAT SITE TO HAVE YOU RIP IT DOWN
[04:57] ewokpresident: AND TRY TO DISCREDIT MY NAME ON GOFUCKYOURSELF
[04:57] ewokpresident: IM NICE IN THERE BUT IM WARNING YOU FUCKER
[04:57] ewokpresident: DONT FUCK WITH ME
[04:57] ewokpresident: yeah thats right bitch
[04:58] ewokpresident: im out

lol
Holy shit, what an asshole. Damn. People on here can be so uptight.
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Old 06-18-2007, 09:13 PM   #18
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Here is whats wrong with it:

1) layout sucks for monetization
2) video player is too small
3) clips are too short - 1-3minute promo videos convert best (yes i have tried shorter and longer)
4) Onpage seo is horrible
5) no promo text
6) You lack people skills.

Good points

1) i like the logo ;) gfy!

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Old 06-18-2007, 09:15 PM   #19
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[04:52] ewokpresident: fuckinghorny.com
[04:52] *** Auto-response sent to ewokpresident: I am currently away from the computer.
[04:52] ewokpresident: whats wrong with it???
[04:54] ewokpresident: you asked me to fuckin message you
[04:54] ewokpresident: and here i am
[04:54] ewokpresident: so whats wrong with my site asshole?
[04:56] ewokpresident: FUCKIN ANSWER ME
[04:57] ewokpresident: I PUT HOURS INTO THAT SITE TO HAVE YOU RIP IT DOWN
[04:57] ewokpresident: AND TRY TO DISCREDIT MY NAME ON GOFUCKYOURSELF
[04:57] ewokpresident: IM NICE IN THERE BUT IM WARNING YOU FUCKER
[04:57] ewokpresident: DONT FUCK WITH ME
[04:57] ewokpresident: yeah thats right bitch
[04:58] ewokpresident: im out

lol
Xanax anyone?
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Here is whats wrong with it:

1) layout sucks for monetization
2) video player is too small
3) clips are too short - 1-3minute promo videos convert best (yes i have tried shorter and longer)
4) You lack people skills.
Number 4 is crucial in this game.
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Ugh what a TERRIBLE fucking video. The girls voice is so fucking annoying. If I made that garbage I would give it away for free.
why is that lady talking to her like she is a fucking retarded child??? wow.
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why is that lady talking to her like she is a fucking retarded child??? wow.
I dunno, do people get off on this kind of garbage nowadays?
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Old 06-18-2007, 09:20 PM   #23
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imo its dumb dumb dumb to give the surfer too much... why should they pay for something when they are getting so so so so much for free?!
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content like this being available for free is not going away, whether it's legal or not.
You're wrong , this will change very soon ! Its one of the most serious problems the industry is facing right now...and it will get solved!

We spend millions of dollars a year shooting content to make us and our affiliates prosper....those people will not steal it and get away with it, their days are counted!
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You're wrong , this will change very soon ! Its one of the most serious problems the industry is facing right now...and it will get solved!

We spend millions of dollars a year shooting content to make us and our affiliates prosper....those people will not steal it and get away with it, their days are counted!
Who you kidding pal?
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surprise surprise.... footer links to this... etology... then aff...

http://landing.etology.com/?lp=1&acc...&trackid=25460
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didn't Youtube become worth $$$$$$$$$$$ with a similar "don't really overly care much whether something is copywritten" business model in mainstream?
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[04:52] ewokpresident: fuckinghorny.com
[04:52] *** Auto-response sent to ewokpresident: I am currently away from the computer.
[04:52] ewokpresident: whats wrong with it???
[04:54] ewokpresident: you asked me to fuckin message you
[04:54] ewokpresident: and here i am
[04:54] ewokpresident: so whats wrong with my site asshole?
[04:56] ewokpresident: FUCKIN ANSWER ME
[04:57] ewokpresident: I PUT HOURS INTO THAT SITE TO HAVE YOU RIP IT DOWN
[04:57] ewokpresident: AND TRY TO DISCREDIT MY NAME ON GOFUCKYOURSELF
[04:57] ewokpresident: IM NICE IN THERE BUT IM WARNING YOU FUCKER
[04:57] ewokpresident: DONT FUCK WITH ME
[04:57] ewokpresident: yeah thats right bitch
[04:58] ewokpresident: im out

lol

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You're wrong , this will change very soon ! Its one of the most serious problems the industry is facing right now...and it will get solved!

We spend millions of dollars a year shooting content to make us and our affiliates prosper....those people will not steal it and get away with it, their days are counted!

Really - how ?????

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content like this being available for free is not going away, whether it's legal or not.
..........congrats to the winners
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k.. just finished jerking
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k.. just finished jerking
haha...
this site isn't good for us, really :/
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[04:52] ewokpresident: whats wrong with it???
[04:54] ewokpresident: you asked me to fuckin message you
[04:54] ewokpresident: and here i am
[04:54] ewokpresident: so whats wrong with my site asshole?
[04:56] ewokpresident: FUCKIN ANSWER ME
[04:57] ewokpresident: I PUT HOURS INTO THAT SITE TO HAVE YOU RIP IT DOWN
[04:57] ewokpresident: AND TRY TO DISCREDIT MY NAME ON GOFUCKYOURSELF
[04:57] ewokpresident: IM NICE IN THERE BUT IM WARNING YOU FUCKER
[04:57] ewokpresident: DONT FUCK WITH ME
[04:57] ewokpresident: yeah thats right bitch
[04:58] ewokpresident: im out

lol
At least I know to stay away from promoting them.
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You're wrong , this will change very soon ! Its one of the most serious problems the industry is facing right now...and it will get solved!

We spend millions of dollars a year shooting content to make us and our affiliates prosper....those people will not steal it and get away with it, their days are counted!
http://www.nastyboards.com/forums/t2...enz-video.html

your content, and squizzel is linking to traffic cash gold
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This is a real problem the industry has to face. I for one think porn tube sites can be ok... They can be used to promote paysites and tease the surfer. If the site is flooded with 30 second advertising clips then its all good but... damn! Posting full length paysite movies is not good for this industry. Torrent sites are just as bad... dont get me started on those.

I know this is kinda like the pot calling the kettle black (because i run a porn forum) but i do what i can to make sure videos like the one above dont make it onto my site and if they do they are deleted.

YouPorn has editorial control over there videos. They weed through the crap submissions daily and post the biggest porn clips the get submitted. Something seriously needs to be done... this site is getting huge and surfers are being exposed to too much free porn.

Just like a Youtube in format but a porn one...

Lots of Porn videos....
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I don't see why the sponsor is letting them get away with posting those huge ass videos and no link to the paysite/tour... crazy.
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I don't see why the sponsor is letting them get away with posting those huge ass videos and no link to the paysite/tour... crazy.
Maybe because they don't have the money to spend on a lawsuit? Or it may just be that the sponsor realizes that that video is absolute garbage so why bother?
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[04:52] *** Auto-response sent to ewokpresident: I am currently away from the computer.
[04:52] ewokpresident: whats wrong with it???
[04:54] ewokpresident: you asked me to fuckin message you
[04:54] ewokpresident: and here i am
[04:54] ewokpresident: so whats wrong with my site asshole?
[04:56] ewokpresident: FUCKIN ANSWER ME
[04:57] ewokpresident: I PUT HOURS INTO THAT SITE TO HAVE YOU RIP IT DOWN
[04:57] ewokpresident: AND TRY TO DISCREDIT MY NAME ON GOFUCKYOURSELF
[04:57] ewokpresident: IM NICE IN THERE BUT IM WARNING YOU FUCKER
[04:57] ewokpresident: DONT FUCK WITH ME
[04:57] ewokpresident: yeah thats right bitch
[04:58] ewokpresident: im out

lol
Shit....to say this guy seems "unstable" is a compliment...
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You're wrong , this will change very soon ! Its one of the most serious problems the industry is facing right now...and it will get solved!

We spend millions of dollars a year shooting content to make us and our affiliates prosper....those people will not steal it and get away with it, their days are counted!
Thanks for that statement, good to know there are affiliate programs that care and don't come up with this "apapt or be fucked" shit. Adapting means surrendering !
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Old 06-19-2007, 06:16 AM   #43
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Shit....to say this guy seems "unstable" is a compliment...
i doubt that was him, squizzel has faked logs before.
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Old 06-19-2007, 06:24 AM   #44
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All of these type of sites have their whole business model based upon ripping sites content and throwing up ads to dating / match making sites.

If all of these sponsors stopped accepting their traffic on the grounds of them using stolen content that isn't rightfully theirs to use, just like ANY biller would refuse to offer billing for a members only site with stolen content these sites wouldn't grow as big as they do. Without a big fat check at the end of the month, they wouldn't be able to pay their bandwidth bill, simple. (torrent sites are a different matter)

What troubles me the most is that most of these sites dont even link back to the site that the content was "taken" from. thats fucking crazy.

What CAN we actully do? Do we do like most people say and "Adapt"? Or is it about time that we protected our content much like every other industry is trying to do? DRM?
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Old 06-19-2007, 06:32 AM   #45
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i doubt that was him, squizzel has faked logs before.
Wow, what a piece of shit.
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Old 06-19-2007, 06:33 AM   #46
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Its Theft, They Make Money Off Stolen Copyrighted Material On A Massive Scale, And Still The Big Adult Video Companies Are Not Doing Anything.

I Think That They Have Been Hit By Fatalism. Courts And The Fbi Are Not Moving Even A Little Finger, Its A Scandal.

Music Companies At Least Fought Like Lions To Hit Their Ennemies.

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Wow... this thread took a weird turn.
Don't know who ewokpresident is, but he certainly doesn't work for us.
Squizzel I do appreciate the feedback, too bad the thread got hijacked.

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1) layout sucks for monetization
2) video player is too small
3) clips are too short - 1-3minute promo videos convert best (yes i have tried shorter and longer)
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Old 06-19-2007, 06:38 AM   #48
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Music Companies At Least Fought Like Lions To Hit Their Ennemies.
all the local tower records shops went out of business .....
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That vid is kinda retarded...
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Old 06-19-2007, 07:00 AM   #50
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It gotta be possible for some of the bigger money-strong programs to join forces and hire some laywers to take care of this?.. it must be possible to have the sites shut down no matter where the fuck they're placed

I find it very strange that something isn't happening
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