There is something SERIOUSLY wrong with your country if you think teachers need to be armed

[Dirty F]

I mean, really fucking goddamn seriously wrong. Something most gun nutters don't even seem to be worried about.

[Colmike9]

Seriously. Who says teachers won't shoot anyone or get their guns stolen?...

[AllAboutCams]

What happens when the teacher want to go on a rampage

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by AllAboutCams

What happens when the teacher want to go on a rampage

Obviously the kids need guns as well for cases like that.

[pornguy]

I agree. Teachers in general should not be armed. But I do believe that each and ever school needs two or more people that are trained and armed every day of the school year.

Simple ways to work that out.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Dirty F

I mean, really fucking goddamn seriously wrong. Something most gun nutters don't even seem to be worried about.

I'm not worried about being shot. I'm worried about some idiot texting and driving killing me.

As far as something being seriously wrong, I agree. There are to many young attention seeking social misfits being churned out in the US.

[xNetworx]

Require all schools to have an armed security guard with extensive training. I'd MUCH rather see my tax dollars go to that instead of the pointless war on drugs.

[_Richard_]

kent state 2012!

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by CamBoss

Require all schools to have an armed security guard with extensive training. I'd MUCH rather see my tax dollars go to that instead of the pointless war on drugs.

Think about the amount of people employed in that pointless war. Cant be stopped now.

And not to worry they will never stop the flow of drugs either, they dont want to.

This shooting will create a LOT of jobs in the near future.

[L-Pink]

[Si]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

What the fuck is that?

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Si

What the fuck is that?

A t-shirt, lol.

[Rochard]

Sorry, this discussion about teachers arming themselves is so not going to happen. Take a look back at the teachers you had in grade school and then trying to imagine them carrying a gun on school grounds on a daily basis. I look at my kid's teachers now and I wouldn't trust most of them with a gun in front of my child on a daily basis.

Armed guards maybe, but not teachers.

[Si]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

A t-shirt, lol.

Touche'!

[TheSquealer]

An armed teacher will simply be the first one to get shot. Doesn't seem too hard to understand. The fact that this would even be a discussion shows how out of step the US is with the rest of the developed world.

[PornoMonster]

Maybe not Teachers but someone there.
Again Bring our Troops Home....

Tell that to the kids and adults that got killed that day waiting over 20 MINUTES for police to show up!
Might want to ask the Principal what she thinks. I mean she did confront the Shooter even without a weapon. Oh wait she is Dead also!

I just seen a PBS announcement that if you ARE or FEEL you are mentally unstable could you please turn in your weapons...

[seeric]

Teachers should not be armed.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

I'm not worried about being shot. I'm worried about some idiot texting and driving killing me.

As far as something being seriously wrong, I agree. There are to many young attention seeking social misfits being churned out in the US.

This almost happened to me last week, and its happened before. Some girl(it's always a female) almost ran me and my dog over because she was looking at her phone.

[bronco67]

I think a lot of people who own guns have no way of looking at the rest of the world from outside their little bubble. Just because they know how to handle a firearm, or have the ability to -- doesn't mean an educator is going to be able to handle business in a firefight situation.

Don't be offended, firearm owners. I've been one of you, and I intend to own another gun in the future. But guns aren't for everyone.

[onwebcam]

The Pearl High School shooting was a school shooting that took place on October 1, 1997 at Pearl High School in Pearl, Mississippi. The gunman, 16-year-old Luke Woodham (born February 5, 1981), killed two students and injured seven others at his high school. Before the shooting at Pearl High School began, Woodham stabbed and bludgeoned his mother to death in his home.

The incident began on the morning of October 1, 1997 when Luke Woodham fatally stabbed and bludgeoned his mother, Mary Woodham, as she prepared for a morning jog. At his trial, Woodham claimed that he could not remember killing his mother.

Woodham drove his mother's car to Pearl High School. Wearing a trench coat, to hide his rifle when he entered the school, Woodham fatally shot Lydia Kaye Dew and Christina Menefee, his former girlfriend. Pearl High School's assistant band director, Jeff Cannon, was standing five feet away from Dew when she was fatally shot. Woodham went on to wound seven others.[2][3][4][5][6][7]

The school's assistant principal, Joel Myrick, retrieved a .45 pistol from his truck and, spotting him near the parking lot, shouted for Woodham to stop. Woodham instead got into a his mother's car and tried to escape. Myrick, a US Army Reserve commander, detained Woodham until authorities arrived.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_High_School_shooting

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by Dirty F

Obviously the kids need guns as well for cases like that.

I second that, arm the kids! Vests too.

[arock10]

I'd be ok with a few extra police officers in schools, there was always 1 where I grew up

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by pornopete

That's amazing! He had a gun and was able to stop the guy from killing himself after he had only shot 9 people!

That's a huge part of the problem.

With a firearm everything happens so quickly that by the time anyone reacts it's already too late and the damage has been done. We have armed guards at the schools and it still won't prevent shootings from happening.

We need to identify those with potential mental health issues and keep them AND their family members away from firearms.

[Roald]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

The Pearl High School shooting was a school shooting that took place on October 1, 1997 at Pearl High School in Pearl, Mississippi. The gunman, 16-year-old Luke Woodham (born February 5, 1981), killed two students and injured seven others at his high school. Before the shooting at Pearl High School began, Woodham stabbed and bludgeoned his mother to death in his home.

The incident began on the morning of October 1, 1997 when Luke Woodham fatally stabbed and bludgeoned his mother, Mary Woodham, as she prepared for a morning jog. At his trial, Woodham claimed that he could not remember killing his mother.

Woodham drove his mother's car to Pearl High School. Wearing a trench coat, to hide his rifle when he entered the school, Woodham fatally shot Lydia Kaye Dew and Christina Menefee, his former girlfriend. Pearl High School's assistant band director, Jeff Cannon, was standing five feet away from Dew when she was fatally shot. Woodham went on to wound seven others.[2][3][4][5][6][7]

The school's assistant principal, Joel Myrick, retrieved a .45 pistol from his truck and, spotting him near the parking lot, shouted for Woodham to stop. Woodham instead got into a his mother's car and tried to escape. Myrick, a US Army Reserve commander, detained Woodham until authorities arrived.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_High_School_shooting

so he was late to the party?

[GFED]

Originally Posted by pornopete

That's amazing! He had a gun and was able to stop the guy from killing himself after he had only shot 9 people!

The gun was in his truck. Because it was illegal for him to protect himself and others in the school.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

I second that, arm the kids! Vests too.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...tproof-1497265



cause if your child is not armed to the teeth, you're not a good parent

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by bronco67

I think a lot of people who own guns have no way of looking at the rest of the world from outside their little bubble. Just because they know how to handle a firearm, or have the ability to -- doesn't mean an educator is going to be able to handle business in a firefight situation.

Don't be offended, firearm owners. I've been one of you, and I intend to own another gun in the future. But guns aren't for everyone.

No way my kid's teachers can handle firearms. They couldn't handle a baseball bat, no way they can handle a firearm.

People seem to think that anyone can handle a firearm. Not so. Then can you just imagine the liability here - What happens when a student gets shot by accident by a careless teacher "forced" to carry a gun?

[CDSmith]

Ha ha, I knew I'd stir ol Frank into a frenzy with my post.

Too funny. And predictable.

[dgraves]

"We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions."
-Ronald Reagan-

[Minte]

Originally Posted by Rochard

That's a huge part of the problem.

With a firearm everything happens so quickly that by the time anyone reacts it's already too late and the damage has been done. We have armed guards at the schools and it still won't prevent shootings from happening.

We need to identify those with potential mental health issues and keep them AND their family members away from firearms.

Sounds good until the ACLU gets involved. The far left will never allow anyones rights to be trampled like that. Innocent until proven guilty.

[dgraves]

Unless the "Root Cause" is addressed, the problem will always exist.

I have yet to hear anyone address the root cause for school shootings.

The method is a "contributing cause" and in this case it was guns. What if he used a different method like homemade bomb? What would we ban then?

[Phoenix]

robot drones or nano robot drones that are everywhere and only form when guns are present...they combines together in the billions to form an armed robot drone.

that is a whole scifi book right there.

[Slappin Fish]

Originally Posted by dgraves

Unless the "Root Cause" is addressed, the problem will always exist.

I have yet to hear anyone address the root cause for school shootings.

The method is a "contributing cause" and in this case it was guns. What if he used a different method like homemade bomb? What would we ban then?

It is a numbers game. sure a Unabomber can come along once a decade but the maladjusted kids, the Adam Lanzas in other countries end up jumping in front of a train or getting over their fantasies, they don't have the means to act upon it in their mom's bedroom

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

The Pearl High School shooting was a school shooting that took place on October 1, 1997 at Pearl High School in Pearl, Mississippi. The gunman, 16-year-old Luke Woodham (born February 5, 1981), killed two students and injured seven others at his high school. Before the shooting at Pearl High School began, Woodham stabbed and bludgeoned his mother to death in his home.

The incident began on the morning of October 1, 1997 when Luke Woodham fatally stabbed and bludgeoned his mother, Mary Woodham, as she prepared for a morning jog. At his trial, Woodham claimed that he could not remember killing his mother.

Woodham drove his mother's car to Pearl High School. Wearing a trench coat, to hide his rifle when he entered the school, Woodham fatally shot Lydia Kaye Dew and Christina Menefee, his former girlfriend. Pearl High School's assistant band director, Jeff Cannon, was standing five feet away from Dew when she was fatally shot. Woodham went on to wound seven others.[2][3][4][5][6][7]

The school's assistant principal, Joel Myrick, retrieved a .45 pistol from his truck and, spotting him near the parking lot, shouted for Woodham to stop. Woodham instead got into a his mother's car and tried to escape. Myrick, a US Army Reserve commander, detained Woodham until authorities arrived.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_High_School_shooting

WOW good thing he had a gun!!

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Ha ha, I knew I'd stir ol Frank into a frenzy with my post.

Too funny. And predictable.

Huh? Which post exactly? This is your first in this thread?

[dgraves]

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

It is a numbers game. sure a Unabomber can come along once a decade but the maladjusted kids, the Adam Lanzas in other countries end up jumping in front of a train or getting over their fantasies, they don't have the means to act upon it in their mom's bedroom

This wasn't a spur of the moment act, it was planned out so he could have used a number of different methods. My question is, what would be the focus of discussion if he chose a different method?

If he burned a bunch of those kids to death with gas, I doubt it would be any constellation to the parents that at least their child wasn't killed with a gun.

Someone wanted to kill a bunch of innocent children, that's the true weapon.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

So God is getting revenge by killing 8 year olds? The delusional thinking of the christian right and the gun nuts (same bunch) is getting downright scary.

[PornoMonster]

Originally Posted by pornopete

That's amazing! He had a gun and was able to stop the guy from killing himself after he had only shot 9 people!

Yep and kept him from killing more, since the Police were not there yet!

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by dgraves

"We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions."
-Ronald Reagan-

Originally Posted by dgraves

Unless the "Root Cause" is addressed, the problem will always exist.

I have yet to hear anyone address the root cause for school shootings.

The method is a "contributing cause" and in this case it was guns. What if he used a different method like homemade bomb? What would we ban then?

Originally Posted by dgraves

This wasn't a spur of the moment act, it was planned out so he could have used a number of different methods. My question is, what would be the focus of discussion if he chose a different method?

If he burned a bunch of those kids to death with gas, I doubt it would be any constellation to the parents that at least their child wasn't killed with a gun.

Someone wanted to kill a bunch of innocent children, that's the true weapon.

.

[PornoMonster]

Originally Posted by Rochard

That's a huge part of the problem.

With a firearm everything happens so quickly that by the time anyone reacts it's already too late and the damage has been done. We have armed guards at the schools and it still won't prevent shootings from happening.

We need to identify those with potential mental health issues and keep them AND their family members away from firearms.

Won't stop, but should greatly reduce the number of deaths / shootings.
Armed guard or Military person would of taken out the shooter in this case way before 20 minutes went by!

[georgeyw]

Originally Posted by Dirty F

Obviously the kids need guns as well for cases like that.

What if the kids and the teachers want to go on a rampage?

[Slappin Fish]

Originally Posted by dgraves

This wasn't a spur of the moment act, it was planned out so he could have used a number of different methods. My question is, what would be the focus of discussion if he chose a different method?

If he burned a bunch of those kids to death with gas, I doubt it would be any constellation to the parents that at least their child wasn't killed with a gun.

Someone wanted to kill a bunch of innocent children, that's the true weapon.

Wouldn't be a consolation but there would be a lot less parents to tell it to.

How many twentysomethings have blown up bombs, not as terrorist acts, but for the sake of killing? By definition these guys are losers, too many obstacles in their way and they give up. Right now a loser in Germany, a loser in Belgium, a loser in every country is dreaming of going out in a blaze of glory blasting his classmates but he just can't. and doesn't have the drive to find any other way.

btw, I get what you are saying. yes the human is the weapon. but that weapon is unloaded and what we are doing is giving it easy access to ammo.


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[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

So God is getting revenge by killing 8 year olds? The delusional thinking of the christian right and the gun nuts (same bunch) is getting downright scary.

Calm down I think it's just a joke.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Dirty F

There is something SERIOUSLY wrong with your country if you think teachers need to be armed

Agreed.

[dgraves]

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

Right now a loser in Germany, a loser in Belgium, a loser in every country is dreaming of going out in a blaze of glory blasting his classmates

You're getting warmer....

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Dirty F

I mean, really fucking goddamn seriously wrong. Something most gun nutters don't even seem to be worried about.

For once, I agree with DirtyF. (This could be the start of a beautiful relationship).

Originally Posted by CamBoss

Require all schools to have an armed security guard with extensive training. I'd MUCH rather see my tax dollars go to that instead of the pointless war on drugs.

Or, put in some serious gun restriction laws, get the guns off the street, end the war on drugs, put more money into healthcare for the mentally ill, stop Fox News from broadcasting fear, calm everyone down, and get things back on track.

[Best-In-BC]

Originally Posted by pornguy

I agree. Teachers in general should not be armed. But I do believe that each and ever school needs two or more people that are trained and armed every day of the school year.

Simple ways to work that out.

Agreed

[StickyGreen]

Franck we know you're a pussy and you're scared of life, it's okay...

He's probably hiding under his bed right now...

[dgraves]

Arming teachers would be like suggesting all women wear chastity belts to prevent rape.

[StickyGreen]

Why should teachers be armed? The odds of them ever needing to use a gun at school are pretty fucking slim...