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Old 12-17-2012, 11:31 AM   #1
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The Untold History of the United States

Just watched Oliver Stone's new documentary "Untold history of The United States". I love that he touched upon many of the lesser known heroes of the history.

Any version of history that differs from the whitewashed bullshit version taught in school is good.

Here's an interview done with Stones that talked about the documentary

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Old 12-17-2012, 11:32 AM   #2
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ships log on the Mayflower said they pulled into Plymouth Rock because they were out of beer
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:52 AM   #3
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There was one part with Truman talking about black people in a way you'd never hear in a Tom Brokaw story about Truman.
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:55 AM   #4
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Revisionist history at its finest.

*Not Oliver Stone's version...the version we're taught in school.
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:30 PM   #5
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It's so fact filled and so good, he has to go on a Russian propaganda machine, Russia Today to talk about "Correcting American History" to get attention for it.
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:59 PM   #6
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I'll find some time to give it a try.
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:03 PM   #7
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I love that he touched upon many of the lesser known heroes of the history.
Like the indians?
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:07 PM   #8
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Truman came from a family of slave owners... He grew up in a world where the Civil War was fought long before it ever reached the East coast.
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Old 12-17-2012, 05:09 PM   #9
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Thanks for that, very interesting

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Just watched Oliver Stone's new documentary "Untold history of The United States". I love that he touched upon many of the lesser known heroes of the history.

Any version of history that differs from the whitewashed bullshit version taught in school is good.

Here's an interview done with Stones that talked about the documentary

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Old 12-17-2012, 05:11 PM   #10
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Here it is...

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Old 12-17-2012, 05:18 PM   #11
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Have to check it out later...

Some suggested reading:



Or in audio form:



A brief intro (YouTube search for much more good Howard Zinn content):



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Old 12-17-2012, 11:56 PM   #12
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AWESOME, thanks dude!
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:51 AM   #13
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Anyone else read this?



Really interesting book, haven't finished it yet though.
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I think anybody who knows anything about WWII knows the Soviet Union sacrificed by far the most, 26 MILLION dead, BUT it doesn't make Stalin a hero, he was a brutal dictator every bit the equal of Hitler. The human losses and suffering of the Russian people is staggering, they were heroes.

Russia won WWII for itself and then we know what they did to Eastern Europe, we didn't stand up to the bastard and sold out our allies. Patton wanted to take on the Russians after the Germans surrendered, who knows how that would have turned out. I don't know how Russia stood at the end of the war versus the rest of the Allies in terms of their respective militaries. What if we had dropped one nuke somewhere in Russia.

Bolshevik Jews were not agnostic, they were atheist, no condemnation of Jews that Communist Party Jews were loyal to Stalin and turned their backs on their own people. That's Marxism. Party first. And again no surprise about Oppenheim, he was a Communist. I don't think you grasp what a Communist is, the vast majority of Communists aren't Jews and the vast majority of Jews aren't communists.

We'll never see a war like that again.

Herbert Hoover didn't want the United States in the war, he thought it better to let the Russians and Germans kill and destroy themselves.
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