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Old 12-19-2012, 03:38 PM   #51
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Franck we know you're a pussy and you're scared of life, it's okay...

He's probably hiding under his bed right now...

Wouldn't the person who is so scared of their own shadow that they have to have a gun just to walk out their front door be the definition of a pussy?
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The problems in our society have zero to do with anything in the bill of rights.
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Wouldn't the person who is so scared of their own shadow that they have to have a gun just to walk out their front door be the definition of a pussy?
Where do you come up with this stuff?
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Or, put in some serious gun restriction laws, get the guns off the street, end the war on drugs, put more money into healthcare for the mentally ill, stop Fox News from broadcasting fear, calm everyone down, and get things back on track.
Serious Back Ground Checks, maybe for even entire family.
Training on weapons.
The training for the CCW class was a joke.
Get rid of gun show loopholes.
Waiting period on all guns.
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Wouldn't the person who is so scared of their own shadow that they have to have a gun just to walk out their front door be the definition of a pussy?
Are you scared of your own shadow? That's sad... and weird...
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Serious Back Ground Checks, maybe for even entire family.
Training on weapons.
The training for the CCW class was a joke.
Get rid of gun show loopholes.
Waiting period on all guns.
None of your suggestions would have helped in the recent shootings over the past few years where the kids were from middle class families with clean backgrounds.
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Are you scared of your own shadow? That's sad... and weird...
No, but if I felt I couldn't be secure without a gun I sure would feel like a pussy.
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:57 PM   #58
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None of your suggestions would have helped in the recent shootings over the past few years where the kids were from middle class families with clean backgrounds.
I know this, BUT
I would rather do these things than to give up my weapons or high capacity magazines.

Well background check for entire family would of, I think. According to the news (ha) he was a very disturbed child.

I am also thinking ahead. What if a poorly trained CCW person who almost never fires the weapon decides to protect him/her self during a bank robbery, and does some stupid shit.

I am for yearly qualifications.... Had to in the military
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Serious Back Ground Checks, maybe for even entire family.
Training on weapons.
The training for the CCW class was a joke.
Get rid of gun show loopholes.
Waiting period on all guns.
I totally agree with stricter requirements to obtain guns.

There's no real "need" to own assaults rifles but only politicians ask why we "need" certain types of guns. There's absolutely no need for civilians to own .50 Cal rifles yet they sell them. Once someone shoots down a jet with one, then they'll deal with that issue. Until then, no one will ask why they are "needed".

Events like this will continue until someone finds out why these kids feel the "need" to kill others. I think our society is glamorizing militant behavior. Why did that kid dress up in a military style outfit? Why isn't anyone asking why kids "need" graphic video games that are extremely violent?
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I know this, BUT
I would rather do these things than to give up my weapons or high capacity magazines.

Well background check for entire family would of, I think. According to the news (ha) he was a very disturbed child.

I am also thinking ahead. What if a poorly trained CCW person who almost never fires the weapon decides to protect him/her self during a bank robbery, and does some stupid shit.

I am for yearly qualifications.... Had to in the military
They already tried banning collapsible stocks and high capacity magazines but determined it had no effect on associated crimes. It takes a trained person a few seconds to swap mags so it's a bit pointless.

There's so much talk about gun control that it's like this psycho wasn't even involved. They even count his body like he was a victim.
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Keep putting kids in time out, raised by single mothers and this will continue. They need a good ass whoopin.
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Most high school teachers are very unstable.
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Realistically though there are more important things to worry about, for example what if one school fires a scud at another, surely every school requires their own scud to act as a deterrent. This is what we should all be talking about instead of guns; US schools need scuds to defend themselves.

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Sounds good until the ACLU gets involved. The far left will never allow anyones rights to be trampled like that. Innocent until proven guilty.
That's the problem - everyone will "you can't take my gun".

It just seems like common sense to me. If you've ever (EVER) had any kind of depression bad enough to have seen a doctor or be put on medication, you should not be allowed to own a firearm - or live in a house that has one. If you own a firearm and you have someone in the house who "might" have mental issues... Your insane.
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Won't stop, but should greatly reduce the number of deaths / shootings.
Armed guard or Military person would of taken out the shooter in this case way before 20 minutes went by!
Maybe that's part of the solution....

- Assault rifle ban.
- Armed guards at schools.
- Better id of people with mental issues and prevention of them getting firearms.
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Armed guards in schools won't address what's causing the issue.

What's the solution when someone does this in a church, mall, theater, etc?

That kid was planning this for some time so I highly doubt he showed absolutely no signs before killing his mother and 25 other people.

There's a reason for a rise in this time of crime and it's not because assault rifles are more readily available or magazines can hold 30 rounds instead of 10.

Who came up with the name "assault rifles" in the first place? How can I buy an assault handgun?
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Franck we know you're a pussy and you're scared of life, it's okay...

He's probably hiding under his bed right now...
Huh? I'm not the one walking around with guns? You fucking imbecile.
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Armed guards in schools won't address what's causing the issue.

What's the solution when someone does this in a church, mall, theater, etc?

That kid was planning this for some time so I highly doubt he showed absolutely no signs before killing his mother and 25 other people.

There's a reason for a rise in this time of crime and it's not because assault rifles are more readily available or magazines can hold 30 rounds instead of 10.

Who came up with the name "assault rifles" in the first place? How can I buy an assault handgun?
Same as

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assault rifle = a category of fire arm
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assault rifle = a category of fire arm
I can assault someone with any rifle...
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You really still do not get it? This is pretty damn sad. You do not even understand that guns fall under different categories?
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I thought the rifle was left in his vehicle making this argument moot?
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You really still do not get it? This is pretty damn sad. You do not even understand that guns fall under different categories?
It's obvious that this went right over your head.

I'll slow it down for you next time.
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Huh? I'm not the one walking around with guns? You fucking imbecile.
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I thought the rifle was left in his vehicle making this argument moot?
Yes, the rifle was found in the trunk of a vehicle.
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So God is getting revenge by killing 8 year olds? The delusional thinking of the christian right and the gun nuts (same bunch) is getting downright scary.
It takes a special kind of dumb to arrive at that conclusion.

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Where do you come up with this stuff?
See above.

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I thought the rifle was left in his vehicle making this argument moot?
There are so many different stories of what happened; until the trial we will not know.
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Yes, the rifle was found in the trunk of a vehicle.
So everyone is arguing about banning the unused weapon in the trunk …..


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So everyone is arguing about banning the unused weapon in the trunk ?..


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It doesn't even look like an AR15 to me.

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So everyone is arguing about banning the unused weapon in the trunk ?..


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Like I said . . . . http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/18/us/con...uns/index.html
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In the car he left a shotgun, about which police have offered no details. Lanza used one of the handguns to take his own life, although police haven't said whether the gun was the Glock or the Sig Sauer.

In fact many details remain unknown about the weapons Lanza used that day to kill 20 children, his own mother, six other adults and then himself. Here's what is known so far:

The primary weapon used in the attack was a "Bushmaster AR-15 assault-type weapon," said Connecticut State Police Lt. Paul Vance. The rifle is a Bushmaster version of a widely made AR-15, the civilian version of the M-16 rifle used by the U.S. military. The original M-16 patent ran out years ago, and now the AR-15 is manufactured by several gunmakers. Unlike the military version, the AR-15 is a semiautomatic, firing one bullet per squeeze of the trigger. But like the M-16, ammunition is loaded through a magazine. In the school shooting, police say Lanza's rifle used numerous 30-round magazines.
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I find it funny that people who are pro gun think that those who are not are pussies lol. A pussy is someone that has to use a gun from 20ft away. Try actually defending yourself actually fighting. Fact is ANYONE that feels the need to arm themselves are in fact the biggest pussies around.

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Ok baddog, that makes more sense. Thanks
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A pussy is someone that has to use a gun from 20ft away. Try actually defending yourself actually fighting. Fact is ANYONE that feels the need to arm themselves are in fact the biggest pussies around.
20 feet is 2-3 quick strides, a second. What if your attacker is much younger than you? Or there are more than one? Or if the attacker is armed with a pipe, bat, knife or gun? You obviously live a sheltered life.

And please don't call me a pussy while wearing that fucking scarf.

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there we go... ok so there were four firearms.
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It's obvious that this went right over your head.

I'll slow it down for you next time.
It is actually your ignorance that is not able to follow a conversation.

I see what you think you are saying, however it has nothing to do with anything other than your imagination and grandiose opinion of your own intelligence.
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20 feet is 2-3 quick strides, a second. What if your attacker is much younger than you? Or there are more than one? Or if the attacker is armed with a pipe, bat, knife or gun? You obviously live a sheltered life.

And please don't call me a pussy while wearing that fucking scarf.

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Not heard that one before! So there you go again! I'm a pussy because of the way I dress?? Fact is I know how defend myself and always have. Looks can be deceiving. Maybe if you pulled your head out of your ass you'd understand, however I don't expect it. Yes you are a pussy if you feel the need to arm yourself.
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Realistically though there are more important things to worry about, for example what if one school fires a scud at another, surely every school requires their own scud to act as a deterrent. This is what we should all be talking about instead of guns; US schools need scuds to defend themselves.

That's a very good point. And once one school has missiles ALL schools should have them, just to keep a reasonable balance of power.

In addition, I believe the ban on grenade launchers has been going on long enough here in the US. Why shouldn't responsible citizens of all ages have the freedom to own simple grenade launchers?! We don't need to be coddled by some sort of nanny state!



Logically all students and teachers SHOULD be allowed to carry concealed weapons. I think we can all agree to that, but what happens when a bunch of gun wielding 4th graders gang up on an innocent 3rd grader? Without a grenade launcher, he or she will be outgunned!

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Seriously, assuming the person that HAS CHOSEN TO CONFRONT you is not as good a fighter as you or is dumb enough to be an unarmed criminal is wishful thinking.

(Also scarf would go well with my black over coat, lol)

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Yes, the rifle was found in the trunk of a vehicle.
apparently 'near the body' of the shooter

can you find anything else? i can't
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can you find anything else? i can't
Baddog linked to it. I was under the impression that only three firearms were retrieved at the incident.
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Baddog linked to it. I was under the impression that only three firearms were retrieved at the incident.
4.. shotgun rifle and two hand guns.. i just remember reading that hte rifle wasn't found at the scene as the guy was trying ot get access blah blah

guess the story has changed
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Admit it, you have NEVER had to stop a criminal that was robbing your place of business have you? You have NEVER had criminals pick your property to be their next score for drug money have you? I have and I used a firearm all three times to hold them until police showed up. I'm such a pussy.

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Old 12-20-2012, 03:17 PM   #93
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Bryan ?..

Admit it, you have NEVER had to stop a criminal that was robbing your place of business have you? You have NEVER had criminals pick your property to be their next score for drug money have you? I have and I used a firearm all three times to hold them until police showed up. I'm such a pussy.

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if you were working at a 'place of business'.. would you try and stop a robber?
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Old 12-20-2012, 03:20 PM   #94
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if you were working at a 'place of business'.. would you try and stop a robber?
If you owned it and it was after hours what choice do you have? Hope the police show up in time?

edit; 2 weeks ago an empty warehouse that I've been renovating showed signs of an attempted forced entry on a rear door. At night now when I stop by I have a gun with me.

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Armed guards in schools won't address what's causing the issue.

What's the solution when someone does this in a church, mall, theater, etc?

That kid was planning this for some time so I highly doubt he showed absolutely no signs before killing his mother and 25 other people.

There's a reason for a rise in this time of crime and it's not because assault rifles are more readily available or magazines can hold 30 rounds instead of 10.

Who came up with the name "assault rifles" in the first place? How can I buy an assault handgun?
Malls already have security, maybe it's time to arm them. There was also a shooting in a church a while back and a armed security guard took out the shooter. Movies are next.
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Old 12-20-2012, 03:42 PM   #96
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Bryan ?..

Admit it, you have NEVER had to stop a criminal that was robbing your place of business have you? You have NEVER had criminals pick your property to be their next score for drug money have you? I have and I used a firearm all three times to hold them until police showed up. I'm such a pussy.

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First off I never personally called you a pussy. I said that because someone said if a person was anti gun they are pussies. No, I've never had my house or place of business robbed. Have I had someone confront me looking to start problems? Who hasn't'? You started the personally attacks because I'm wearing a scarf in my avatar, really? So I'm gay because of the way I choose to dress? Think about who's being ignorant here.
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First off I never personally called you a pussy. I said that because someone said if a person was anti gun they are pussies. No, I've never had my house or place of business robbed. Have I had someone confront me looking to start problems? Who hasn't'? You started the personally attacks because I'm wearing a scarf in my avatar, really? So I'm gay because of the way I choose to dress? Think about who's being ignorant here.
I turned on avatars just so I could see your scarf. It's very pretty.
Ok, turning them back off now.
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Bryan, I'm not talking about an argument in a sports bar that turns violent. That I would walk away from without a second thought.

I'm talking about knowing you might be in a vulnerable position because a criminal has targeted you or your property. In that case you either fold and put yourself at the mercy of a criminal or you defend what is yours. Defending myself and property doesn't make me a pussy in my view. Evidently it does in yours and that is what I took offense with.

I wish the world was a peaceful place but it's not, just last week a property of mine I'm renovating right next to a large mall showed signs of a forced entry on a rear door. I drive past this property at night checking on it and yes I have a gun with me when I do. Not because I'm a pussy but because I'm aware of the low life's that respect nothing.

Yea guns are a problem. So is not having one when it's needed. I REALLY do hope you never are in a spot where you are faced with being a target of crime. For me that ship has sailed and I'm ready for it to happen again.

Take care man and I hope your baseball team gets better, lol. Lee

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Bryan, I'm not talking about an argument in a sports bar that turns violent. That I would walk away from without a second thought.

I'm talking about knowing you might be in a vulnerable position because a criminal has targeted you or your property. In that case you either fold and put yourself at the mercy of a criminal or you defend what is yours. Defending myself and property doesn't make me a pussy in my view. Evidently it does in yours and that is what I took offense with.

I wish the world was a peaceful place but it's not, just last week a property of mine I'm renovating right next to a large mall showed signs of a forced entry on a rear door. I drive past this property at night checking on it and yes I have a gun with me when I do. Not because I'm a pussy but because I'm aware of the low life's that respect nothing.

Yea guns are a problem. So is not having one when it's needed. I REALLY do hope you never are in a spot where you are faced with being a target of crime. For me that ship has sailed and I'm ready for it to happen again.

Take care man and I hope your baseball team gets better, lol. Lee

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Lee,
I mean no disrespect to you. I am just sick of seeing innocent people being slaughtered because of guns(especially 6 and 7year old kids). I honestly don't know the solution but seeing what happened last week is revolting. Maybe I'm wrong, perhaps the solution is more guns (I don't think so) but I don't claim to know all. Anyhow I do apologize if I came across as a dick.

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