Many weddings as gay marriage becomes legal in Md. - GoFuckYourself.com

brassmonkey · 01-01-2013, 06:06 PM

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James Scales, 68, was married to William Tasker, 60, on Tuesday shortly after midnight by Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake inside City Hall. "It's just so hard to believe it's happening," Scales said shortly before marrying his partner of 35 years.

Six other same-sex couples also were being married at City Hall. Ceremonies were taking place in other parts of the state as well. The ceremonies follow a legislative fight that pitted Gov. Martin O'Malley against leaders of his Catholic faith. Voters in the state, founded by Catholics in the 17th century, sealed the change by approving a November ballot question.

"There is no human institution more sacred than that of the one that you are about to form," Rawlings-Blake said during the brief ceremony. "True marriage, true marriage, is the dearest of all earthly relationships."

Brigitte Ronnett, who also was married, said she hopes one day to see full federal recognition of same-sex marriage. Maryland, Maine and Washington state were the first states to approve same-sex marriage by popular vote, in November, a development Ronnett said was significant.

"I think it's a great sign when you see that popular opinion is now in favor of this," said Ronnett, 51, who married Lisa Walther, 51, at City Hall. Same-sex couples in Maryland have been able to get marriage licenses since Dec. 6, but they did not take effect until Tuesday.

In 2011, same-sex marriage legislation passed in the state Senate but stalled in the House of Delegates. O'Malley hadn't made the issue a key part of his 2011 legislative agenda, but indicated that summer that he was considering backing a measure similar to New York's law, which includes exemptions for religious organizations.

Shortly after, Archbishop Edwin O'Brien of Baltimore wrote to O'Malley that same-sex marriage went against the governor's faith. "As advocates for the truths we are compelled to uphold, we speak with equal intensity and urgency in opposition to your promoting a goal that so deeply conflicts with your faith, not to mention the best interests of our society," wrote O'Brien, who served as archbishop of the nation's first diocese from October 2007 to August 2011.

The governor was not persuaded. He held a news conference in July 2011 to announce that he would make same-sex marriage a priority in the 2012 legislative session. He wrote back to the archbishop that "when shortcomings in our laws bring about a result that is unjust, I have a public obligation to try to change that injustice."

The measure, with exemptions for religious organizations that choose not to marry gay couples, passed the House of Delegates in February in a close vote. O'Malley signed it in March. Opponents then gathered enough signatures to put the bill to a statewide vote, and it passed with 52 percent in favor.

In total, nine states and the District of Columbia have approved same-sex marriage. The other states are Connecticut, Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York, Vermont and Washington. Meanwhile, the weddings continued throughout the day Tuesday. Clayton Zook, 28, and Wayne McKenzie, 30, married by the waters of the Chesapeake Bay at the Black Walnut Point Inn on Tilghman Island.

"We've been together for six and a half years, so this one day doesn't really change a whole lot as far as our feelings," said Zook, of Baltimore. "It does change a whole lot in how we are recognized, and we're certainly felt more as equal in the state of Maryland now."

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Grapesoda · 01-01-2013, 06:07 PM

the divorce lawyers are throwing a BIG ASS fucking party RIGHT NOW

personally I'm against using the word 'marriage' however I see no issue with same sex unions

sandman! · 01-01-2013, 06:17 PM

mineistaken · 01-01-2013, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

personally I'm against using the word 'marriage' however I see no issue with same sex unions

100% agree. I am not against such unions, but absolutely against use the word "marriage"

NO NO NO.

Grapesoda · 01-01-2013, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

100% agree. I am not against such unions, but absolutely against use the word "marriage"

NO NO NO.

yes the homosexuals only used the word 'marriage' for the controversy.. pretty low class if you ask me

AdultPornMasta · 01-01-2013, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

100% agree. I am not against such unions, but absolutely against use the word "marriage"

NO NO NO.

Why?

8chars

Grapesoda · 01-01-2013, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultPornMasta

Why?

8chars

the word marriage has very strong social meaning and a long history of family ties that I don't really feel has anything to do with homosexuality also marriage has strong religious connotations that don't apply to homosexuality as well.

if the homosexuals had just said we want civil unions with benefits like everyone else there would have no 'news story' at all...

a marriage is two parts: is a civil union sanctioned by the government (a license) and a 'holy union' sanctioned by 'GOD' (marriage vows)

no matter how you slice it, the 'god crowd' will never consider a homosexual union sanctioned by "GOD' as a holy union and the religious have every right to have those thoughts, just as homosexuals have every right to a 'civil union'

mineistaken · 01-01-2013, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

the word marriage has very strong social meaning and a long history of family ties that I don't really feel has anything to do with homosexuality also marriage has strong religious connotations that don't apply to homosexuality as well.

Absolutely correct, fine sire

AdultPornMasta · 01-01-2013, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

the word marriage has very strong social meaning and a long history of family ties that I don't really feel has anything to do with homosexuality also marriage has strong religious connotations that don't apply to homosexuality as well.

if the homosexuals had just said we want civil unions with benefits like everyone else there would have no 'news story' at all...

a marriage is two parts: is a civil union sanctioned by the government (a license) and a 'holy union' sanctioned by 'GOD' (marriage vows)

no matter how you slice it, the 'god crowd' will never consider a homosexual union sanctioned by "GOD' as a holy union and the religious have every right to have those thoughts, just as homosexuals have every right to a 'civil union'

"Separate but equal", eh? It also seems by your post that the religion of one group may trump the rights of another.

kane · 01-01-2013, 08:40 PM

I can't imagine why anyone would care if gay people get married and call it a marriage.

Their lives together have zero affect on my life, how I live it or how good or bad my relationships may turn out. If they want to call themselves married, so be it.

Rochard · 01-01-2013, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

the divorce lawyers are throwing a BIG ASS fucking party RIGHT NOW

personally I'm against using the word 'marriage' however I see no issue with same sex unions

Gays have a much lower divorce rate than everyone else.

mineistaken · 01-01-2013, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

I can't imagine why anyone would care if gay people get married and call it a marriage.

Their lives together have zero affect on my life, how I live it or how good or bad my relationships may turn out. If they want to call themselves married, so be it.

Does not affect life, just devaluates the word that has some meaning in it.

mineistaken · 01-01-2013, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Gays have a much lower divorce rate than everyone else.

So? Its still extra number on top of real mariage divorces.

Lace · 01-01-2013, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

I can't imagine why anyone would care if gay people get married and call it a marriage.

Their lives together have zero affect on my life, how I live it or how good or bad my relationships may turn out. If they want to call themselves married, so be it.

I agree 100%!

epitome · 01-01-2013, 08:53 PM

Bunch of backwards redneck folk up in here. Probably beat their wives because that is also traditional.

epitome · 01-01-2013, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

So? Its still extra number on top of real mariage divorces.

Strong argument...

/sarcasm

kane · 01-01-2013, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Does not affect life, just devaluates the word that has some meaning in it.

Seriously? So a divorce rate near 60% doesn't devalue the meaning of the word?

People getting married and divorced within a few months doesn't devalue the meaning of the word?

What about people marrying for money or citizenship or other reasons? That doesn't devalue the meaning of it?

It is just a word. There is no value to the word itself, it is how you behave in your marriage that gives value to your marriage.

AdultPornMasta · 01-01-2013, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Does not affect life, just devaluates the word that has some meaning in it.

I think you mean "devalues". Why do you add the extra syllable? I further take it from your post that you consider the relationship between two gays or lesbians to be of less value than that of a "traditional" marriage between heterosexuals?

AdultPornMasta · 01-01-2013, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane

Seriously? So a divorce rate near 60% doesn't devalue the meaning of the word?

People getting married and divorced within a few months doesn't devalue the meaning of the word?

What about people marrying for money or citizenship or other reasons? That doesn't devalue the meaning of it?

It is just a word. There is no value to the word itself, it is how you behave in your marriage that gives value to your marriage.

epitome · 01-01-2013, 09:26 PM

Since marriage is about family, should people who cannot or do not want to have children be legally barred from entering into it?

Also, marriage is not only a religious thing. If that were true you wouldn't be able to get married at the court house.

AdultPornMasta · 01-01-2013, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome

Since marriage is about family, should people who cannot or do not want to have children be legally barred from entering into it?

Also, marriage is not only a religious thing. If that were true you wouldn't be able to get married at the court house.

"Tradition without intelligence is not worth having."

T.S. Eliot

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brassmonkey Pay It Forward Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Yo Mama House Posts: 76,905	Many weddings as gay marriage becomes legal in Md. hotlinked James Scales, 68, was married to William Tasker, 60, on Tuesday shortly after midnight by Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake inside City Hall. "It's just so hard to believe it's happening," Scales said shortly before marrying his partner of 35 years. Six other same-sex couples also were being married at City Hall. Ceremonies were taking place in other parts of the state as well. The ceremonies follow a legislative fight that pitted Gov. Martin O'Malley against leaders of his Catholic faith. Voters in the state, founded by Catholics in the 17th century, sealed the change by approving a November ballot question. "There is no human institution more sacred than that of the one that you are about to form," Rawlings-Blake said during the brief ceremony. "True marriage, true marriage, is the dearest of all earthly relationships." Brigitte Ronnett, who also was married, said she hopes one day to see full federal recognition of same-sex marriage. Maryland, Maine and Washington state were the first states to approve same-sex marriage by popular vote, in November, a development Ronnett said was significant. "I think it's a great sign when you see that popular opinion is now in favor of this," said Ronnett, 51, who married Lisa Walther, 51, at City Hall. Same-sex couples in Maryland have been able to get marriage licenses since Dec. 6, but they did not take effect until Tuesday. In 2011, same-sex marriage legislation passed in the state Senate but stalled in the House of Delegates. O'Malley hadn't made the issue a key part of his 2011 legislative agenda, but indicated that summer that he was considering backing a measure similar to New York's law, which includes exemptions for religious organizations. Shortly after, Archbishop Edwin O'Brien of Baltimore wrote to O'Malley that same-sex marriage went against the governor's faith. "As advocates for the truths we are compelled to uphold, we speak with equal intensity and urgency in opposition to your promoting a goal that so deeply conflicts with your faith, not to mention the best interests of our society," wrote O'Brien, who served as archbishop of the nation's first diocese from October 2007 to August 2011. The governor was not persuaded. He held a news conference in July 2011 to announce that he would make same-sex marriage a priority in the 2012 legislative session. He wrote back to the archbishop that "when shortcomings in our laws bring about a result that is unjust, I have a public obligation to try to change that injustice." The measure, with exemptions for religious organizations that choose not to marry gay couples, passed the House of Delegates in February in a close vote. O'Malley signed it in March. Opponents then gathered enough signatures to put the bill to a statewide vote, and it passed with 52 percent in favor. In total, nine states and the District of Columbia have approved same-sex marriage. The other states are Connecticut, Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York, Vermont and Washington. Meanwhile, the weddings continued throughout the day Tuesday. Clayton Zook, 28, and Wayne McKenzie, 30, married by the waters of the Chesapeake Bay at the Black Walnut Point Inn on Tilghman Island. "We've been together for six and a half years, so this one day doesn't really change a whole lot as far as our feelings," said Zook, of Baltimore. "It does change a whole lot in how we are recognized, and we're certainly felt more as equal in the state of Maryland now." full article... __________________ TRUMP 2025 KEKAW!!! - Support The Laken Riley Act!!! END DACA - SUPPORT AZ HCR 2060 52R - email: brassballz-at-techie.com

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epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,158	Since marriage is about family, should people who cannot or do not want to have children be legally barred from entering into it? Also, marriage is not only a religious thing. If that were true you wouldn't be able to get married at the court house.