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SmutHammer · 01-30-2013, 08:48 AM

I'm looking into moving to the Vegas area. I was told to check out Henderson. Does anyone have any info on this place? I have a kid, So I want to make sure it is safe for him, and that the schools are good.

Any info is appreciated

vegasbobby · 01-30-2013, 10:54 AM

Henderson is nice. contact me I have a Realtor for you.

candyflip · 01-30-2013, 11:06 AM

My dad has a house in Henderson. They bought it a few years back to stay in when he and his partner's are out at their Vegas office.

It was built for $400k, they bought it for about half that and it took a dump after they bought it too. The value has gone up a little bit, so that's a plus and probably bodes well for the area.

That said, my buddies 14 year old daughter lives in Vegas with her mom and is covered in Tattoos and piercings. That's either gonna be really good for your son, or REALLY bad.

NaughtyRob · 01-30-2013, 11:39 AM

Henderson is good, as is the Southwest, and Northwest (West side of the 95 freeway) or further out east of the freeway is ok too (Alliante area)

Basically any "new" area is better.

Robbie · 01-30-2013, 12:00 PM

I live in NW Vegas (near the Santa Fe Station Casino)

Gated community. Beautiful parks for the kids to play in a few blocks away. Elementary, middle school, and high school within a few blocks.

Just a super nice neighborhood. Quiet and safe. Schools are nice and pretty new and my kids have enjoyed going to them.
Still have one in high school and she is excelling here.

As soon as she graduates in a couple of years...I'm gonna think about moving in closer to the strip.
It's almost TOO nice for me living here. I need to get in closer to the action on the strip. lol

But living where I am now is the nicest place I've ever lived.

I was born and raised in Florida. Moved to Myrtle Beach, South Carolina in 1988. Atlanta in 1989. Columbia, South Carolina in 1990. Down to Orlando, Fla. in 1992.
Greenville, SC in 1993
And then here to Vegas in 2008.

And this is by far the best place I've lived and has the nicest people and cleanest schools of any of those other places.

Vegas is a big sprawling place. It's pretty much all of Clark County. So don't be fooled into thinking that it's all just the strip.
The strip is a tiny area of Vegas.

Atticus · 01-30-2013, 12:07 PM

I live in Henderson and it's nice. I would definitely go with the Green Valley area of Henderson versus old town Henderson itself. They call it Hendertucky for a reason.

Green Valley has a ton of parks, good schools, quiet and easy access to the freeway. Takes me about 10 minutes to get to the strip, 15-20 to get downtown, depending on traffic (which compared to other cites there is very little of).

Depending on budget you can get a nice 4 bedroom 1900 sq ft house w/pool in the $130k - $150k range. Or 4000+ sq ft, pool, guard gated community for $500k - $750k. Plenty of $1M plus homes available as well.

Good luck.

RyuLion · 01-30-2013, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

I live in NW Vegas (near the Santa Fe Station Casino)

Gated community. Beautiful parks for the kids to play in a few blocks away. Elementary, middle school, and high school within a few blocks.

Just a super nice neighborhood. Quiet and safe. Schools are nice and pretty new and my kids have enjoyed going to them.
Still have one in high school and she is excelling here.

As soon as she graduates in a couple of years...I'm gonna think about moving in closer to the strip.
It's almost TOO nice for me living here. I need to get in closer to the action on the strip. lol

But living where I am now is the nicest place I've ever lived.

I was born and raised in Florida. Moved to Myrtle Beach, South Carolina in 1988. Atlanta in 1989. Columbia, South Carolina in 1990. Down to Orlando, Fla. in 1992.
Greenville, SC in 1993
And then here to Vegas in 2008.

And this is by far the best place I've lived and has the nicest people and cleanest schools of any of those other places.

Vegas is a big sprawling place. It's pretty much all of Clark County. So don't be fooled into thinking that it's all just the strip.
The strip is a tiny area of Vegas.

MaDalton · 01-30-2013, 12:13 PM

i have seen nice areas of Vegas but the heat would kill me. where i'm from, 80° is considered warm, 90° is really hot

Robbie · 01-30-2013, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

i have seen nice areas of Vegas but the heat would kill me. where i'm from, 80° is considered warm, 90° is really hot

It's "dry heat"

I used to swelter livng in Fla. and South Carolina when the temp was 90 degrees F because of the intense humidity.

But 90 degrees F here in Vegas feels very comfortable.

It does get a little bit too much a couple of times a year when it gets up to 110 degrees.
But that's what swimming pools and air conditioning are for. lol

And right now, I'm sick of cold weather and ready for some HOT weather so I can enjoy my pool again.

MaDalton · 01-30-2013, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

It's "dry heat"

I used to swelter livng in Fla. and South Carolina when the temp was 90 degrees F because of the intense humidity.

But 90 degrees F here in Vegas feels very comfortable.

It does get a little bit too much a couple of times a year when it gets up to 110 degrees.
But that's what swimming pools and air conditioning are for. lol

And right now, I'm sick of cold weather and ready for some HOT weather so I can enjoy my pool again.

you're right - when i have the choice i take 100° in Vegas over 90° in Miami in August

and i guess you adapt after a while

SmutHammer · 01-30-2013, 12:24 PM

Thank you everyone for the info. You can't get this insider stuff from google.

What area is Green Valley? I have been looking around and so far found this.

http://www.homes.com/listing/1803515...ERSON_NV_89011

I'm not sure how the neigborhood/schools etc. are. I myself have never left the strip. I'm just looking for something simple as far as a home.

MaDalton · 01-30-2013, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

Thank you everyone for the info. You can't get this insider stuff from google.

What area is Green Valley? I have been looking around and so far found this.

http://www.homes.com/listing/1803515...ERSON_NV_89011

I'm not sure how the neigborhood/schools etc. are. I myself have never left the strip. I'm just looking for something simple as far as a home.

if i could buy something like that for that price here, i would be already out of the door...

sucks for those who built it and probably paid way more though

Atticus · 01-30-2013, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

Thank you everyone for the info. You can't get this insider stuff from google.

What area is Green Valley? I have been looking around and so far found this.

http://www.homes.com/listing/1803515...ERSON_NV_89011

I'm not sure how the neigborhood/schools etc. are. I myself have never left the strip. I'm just looking for something simple as far as a home.

Green Valley is a master planned community within Henderson. Located on the West side of Henderson. Technically I think it borders all the way north on Sunset to Paseo Verde south of the 215 freeway. I personally like the South of the 215 to Horizon Ridge Dr area as it's newer and easy access to the freeway so anywhere in the valley is a short commute. Green Valley Ranch casino/resort is also nearby and is a good locals spot for gaming/drinking/dining.

$170k would easily get you a 3/4 bedroom house built within the past 10 years.

Atticus · 01-30-2013, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

It's "dry heat"

I used to swelter livng in Fla. and South Carolina when the temp was 90 degrees F because of the intense humidity.

But 90 degrees F here in Vegas feels very comfortable.

It does get a little bit too much a couple of times a year when it gets up to 110 degrees.
But that's what swimming pools and air conditioning are for. lol

And right now, I'm sick of cold weather and ready for some HOT weather so I can enjoy my pool again.

I much prefer the 110 in July to the current weather. Pool during the day and a perfect 90 at night. Don't freeze your ass off at valets either.

SmutHammer · 01-30-2013, 03:29 PM

Are there any talent agencies in Vegas?

01-30-2013, 03:39 PM

I am a native, and have a child. We picked the area that we live in because of the schools, and I don't regrest the decision one bit. Depending on your budget, check out the Anthem Area. There is the Country Club area, as well as the Inspirada area for more of a "family" feel.

Here is the Inspirada site: http://www.inspirada.com/hb.home.html

If your child is of elementary school age, Wallin is a 5 star, public school, which not only has great teachers, but also a uniform requirement to avoid any gang BS.
http://www.wallinelementary.com/

SmutHammer · 01-30-2013, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sherm

I am a native, and have a child. We picked the area that we live in because of the schools, and I don't regrest the decision one bit. Depending on your budget, check out the Anthem Area. There is the Country Club area, as well as the Inspirada area for more of a "family" feel.

Here is the Inspirada site: http://www.inspirada.com/hb.home.html

If your child is of elementary school age, Wallin is a 5 star, public school, which not only has great teachers, but also a uniform requirement to avoid any gang BS.
http://www.wallinelementary.com/

Thanks for the info, I have been checking out that area too. My son will be starting middle school next year.

Atticus · 01-30-2013, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherm

I am a native, and have a child. We picked the area that we live in because of the schools, and I don't regrest the decision one bit. Depending on your budget, check out the Anthem Area. There is the Country Club area, as well as the Inspirada area for more of a "family" feel.

Here is the Inspirada site: http://www.inspirada.com/hb.home.html

If your child is of elementary school age, Wallin is a 5 star, public school, which not only has great teachers, but also a uniform requirement to avoid any gang BS.
http://www.wallinelementary.com/

That's a nice area. Only problem I have with it is the amount of time it takes to get anywhere. When I first moved to Vegas I lived off of Eastern and Sunridge and it took 15 minutes to get down Eastern with traffic. And that was 12 years ago.

I know you can go through Seven Hills and all but seems out of the way. And you're even further up. How long does it take you to get to the airport? Strip from up in Anthem? I know a lot of people who live up there and thats their only real complaint (besides the hard water).

SmutHammer · 01-31-2013, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vegasbobby

Henderson is nice. contact me I have a Realtor for you.

Didn't see any contact info on here.

my email is edhammer @ yahoo

ICQ 643559132

Thanks

ninavain · 02-01-2013, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

Are there any talent agencies in Vegas?

No talent agencies and no talent...

I live Southwest mountain's edge ( my neighbor is TELLER from Penn and Teller) very nice and quiet, wife and I run a Bulldog kennel as well ( Mountain's Edge) I love the weather..

Catalyst · 02-01-2013, 12:39 AM

There are some great deals in vegas, if you keep looking and spend some time around vegas you will be surprised what 10% or more down and great credit will get you.

Our house was over 600K in 2008 or 09.. ( when the org owner bought it).

we got it from the bank, in less than 45 days, for 200K.. It is energy star, pulte home, all title or bamboo flooring ( no carpet), 5 bedroom ( 3 are masters), 3 bathrooms, on a golf course, Super Nice and the note is super cheap, you can't rent for the price own can own ( my note is under 900 a month)

It took me almost 2 months of looking around vegas, but there are thousands of deals if your less picky.

Talent is hit and miss.. I have more girls than I can generally shoot with, but I do a lot of mainstream and adult stuff. However I know a handful of adult companies that come to vegas and can't find talent, while other people, have no problem.

SmutHammer · 02-01-2013, 12:55 AM

Best I can do is surf the internet and fly down on the weekend to look at places.

I'm surprised there are no talent agencies, Maybe someone will open one. Cali doesn't seem like a porn friendly place anymore.

Catalyst · 02-01-2013, 01:38 AM

Yea.. there are a lot of people that have tried.. however it can be hard when a model can make more money stripping than doing porn.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

Best I can do is surf the internet and fly down on the weekend to look at places.

I'm surprised there are no talent agencies, Maybe someone will open one. Cali doesn't seem like a porn friendly place anymore.

Mr Pheer · 02-01-2013, 01:43 AM

Private school is the way to go here, or home schooled. The public schools here are shit, except for the Magnet schools but that is only grade 9 - 12 and you have to apply to get your kid into one.

There are several really good private schools here for a reason. It's worth the money to send your kid to one.

02-01-2013, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atticus

That's a nice area. Only problem I have with it is the amount of time it takes to get anywhere. When I first moved to Vegas I lived off of Eastern and Sunridge and it took 15 minutes to get down Eastern with traffic. And that was 12 years ago.

I know you can go through Seven Hills and all but seems out of the way. And you're even further up. How long does it take you to get to the airport? Strip from up in Anthem? I know a lot of people who live up there and thats their only real complaint (besides the hard water).

They actually opened up the road on Vlunteer now. It opens at Henderson Executive airport and ports out to St. Rose, or you can take Vulunteer straight down to LV Blvd (behind the M). From there, the 15 freeway entrance is a block away, or it's a straight shot down LV Blvd to the strip, etc.

I have a business in Downtown Las Vegas. Without traffic, it's a 15-20 min drive. 30 during rush hour. In essence, it's a minor inconvenience, but it's worth it in our opinion for the quality of home that we have (plus great neighbors, great public schools, etc). For the record, we were able to get a 3,800 sq feet brand new home built to spec for around $260,000. In 2002, I paid $325,000 for $1,500 sq feet. The market here is definitely perfect for buyers!

02-01-2013, 11:40 AM

Middle schools in the area:
http://www.greatschools.org/nevada/h...Middle-School/
http://www.greatschools.org/nevada/h...Middle-School/

Both are held in high regard considering they are public schools.

Atticus · 02-01-2013, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherm

Middle schools in the area:
http://www.greatschools.org/nevada/h...Middle-School/
http://www.greatschools.org/nevada/h...Middle-School/

Both are held in high regard considering they are public schools.

My older kids go to Bob Miller. Great School.

JenniDahling · 02-01-2013, 02:39 PM

My family has been in Henderson for over a decade and we visit with them several times a year. The city has expanded, but it's also kept up the older areas. They're in the "older" part of Henderson off Eastern and Robindale.

At one point I considered moving to Vegas and looked at the Seven Hills area just south of Henderson. You should check that area out as well.

02-01-2013, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JenniDahling

My family has been in Henderson for over a decade and we visit with them several times a year. The city has expanded, but it's also kept up the older areas. They're in the "older" part of Henderson off Eastern and Robindale.

At one point I considered moving to Vegas and looked at the Seven Hills area just south of Henderson. You should check that area out as well.

I remember when that was the newer part of Henderson. Hahah!
Henderson actually expands past Seven Hills now, so it's still carrying the Henderson tag. It's just "newer" Henderson. Seven Hills pretty much butts right up to Anthem and Inspirada now.

Mr Pheer · 02-01-2013, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherm

Middle schools in the area:
http://www.greatschools.org/nevada/h...Middle-School/
http://www.greatschools.org/nevada/h...Middle-School/

Both are held in high regard considering they are public schools.

The best of the worst is still pretty bad.

Nevada's public schools and education system has ranked near the bottom of the USA for the past 10 years that I've been keeping up with it.

http://www.lvrj.com/news/report-puts...163664676.html

My kid went to private school up thru 5th grade. I made the mistake of letting him go to public school for 6th grade and half of 7th grade, and then pulled him back out of public schools. Wont be making that mistake again. His second half of 7th grade and first half of 8th grade have been his best yet.

02-01-2013, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

The best of the worst is still pretty bad.

Nevada's public schools and education system has ranked near the bottom of the USA for the past 10 years that I've been keeping up with it.

http://www.lvrj.com/news/report-puts...163664676.html

My kid went to private school up thru 5th grade. I made the mistake of letting him go to public school for 6th grade and half of 7th grade, and then pulled him back out of public schools. Wont be making that mistake again. His second half of 7th grade and first half of 8th grade have been his best yet.

I'm the product of Nevada public schools. I'd like to think I turned out alright, and have a fairly good education under my belt. Likewise, I've had friends that were forever in the private school system, and they have had a rough go of it.

The school system may be broken in many aspects, but it still works for many if the parents are involved, and if the children are motivated. I'm not saying your choice to go private is better or worse...I'm just saying that what works for some, doesn't work for all. Obviously the public school system failed your child, so you did what any good parent would.

SmutHammer · 02-18-2013, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vegasbobby

Henderson is nice. contact me I have a Realtor for you.

Have a plane ticket for next month, Having a Realtor would help a lot. Can you email me their info please?

edhammer at yahoo

Thanks

dappz-datton · 02-18-2013, 11:28 PM

ummm sounds interesting

fuzebox · 02-19-2013, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyRob

Henderson is good, as is the Southwest, and Northwest (West side of the 95 freeway) or further out east of the freeway is ok too (Alliante area)

Basically any "new" area is better.

Sums it up really...

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninavain

I live Southwest mountain's edge ( my neighbor is TELLER from Penn and Teller)

I know exactly where that is. Used to live right by there myself

01-30-2013, 08:48 AM	#1
SmutHammer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,844	Vegas help from the locals please. I'm looking into moving to the Vegas area. I was told to check out Henderson. Does anyone have any info on this place? I have a kid, So I want to make sure it is safe for him, and that the schools are good. Any info is appreciated

01-30-2013, 10:54 AM	#2
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01-30-2013, 11:06 AM	#3
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Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,958	I live in NW Vegas (near the Santa Fe Station Casino) Gated community. Beautiful parks for the kids to play in a few blocks away. Elementary, middle school, and high school within a few blocks. Just a super nice neighborhood. Quiet and safe. Schools are nice and pretty new and my kids have enjoyed going to them. Still have one in high school and she is excelling here. As soon as she graduates in a couple of years...I'm gonna think about moving in closer to the strip. It's almost TOO nice for me living here. I need to get in closer to the action on the strip. lol But living where I am now is the nicest place I've ever lived. I was born and raised in Florida. Moved to Myrtle Beach, South Carolina in 1988. Atlanta in 1989. Columbia, South Carolina in 1990. Down to Orlando, Fla. in 1992. Greenville, SC in 1993 And then here to Vegas in 2008. And this is by far the best place I've lived and has the nicest people and cleanest schools of any of those other places. Vegas is a big sprawling place. It's pretty much all of Clark County. So don't be fooled into thinking that it's all just the strip. The strip is a tiny area of Vegas. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

01-30-2013, 12:07 PM	#6
Atticus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,051	I live in Henderson and it's nice. I would definitely go with the Green Valley area of Henderson versus old town Henderson itself. They call it Hendertucky for a reason. Green Valley has a ton of parks, good schools, quiet and easy access to the freeway. Takes me about 10 minutes to get to the strip, 15-20 to get downtown, depending on traffic (which compared to other cites there is very little of). Depending on budget you can get a nice 4 bedroom 1900 sq ft house w/pool in the $130k - $150k range. Or 4000+ sq ft, pool, guard gated community for $500k - $750k. Plenty of $1M plus homes available as well. Good luck.

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01-30-2013, 12:24 PM	#11
SmutHammer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,844	Thank you everyone for the info. You can't get this insider stuff from google. What area is Green Valley? I have been looking around and so far found this. http://www.homes.com/listing/1803515...ERSON_NV_89011 I'm not sure how the neigborhood/schools etc. are. I myself have never left the strip. I'm just looking for something simple as far as a home.

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SmutHammer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,844	Are there any talent agencies in Vegas?

01-30-2013, 03:39 PM	#16
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	I am a native, and have a child. We picked the area that we live in because of the schools, and I don't regrest the decision one bit. Depending on your budget, check out the Anthem Area. There is the Country Club area, as well as the Inspirada area for more of a "family" feel. Here is the Inspirada site: http://www.inspirada.com/hb.home.html If your child is of elementary school age, Wallin is a 5 star, public school, which not only has great teachers, but also a uniform requirement to avoid any gang BS. http://www.wallinelementary.com/

02-01-2013, 12:39 AM	#21
Catalyst Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Vegas Posts: 3,243	There are some great deals in vegas, if you keep looking and spend some time around vegas you will be surprised what 10% or more down and great credit will get you. Our house was over 600K in 2008 or 09.. ( when the org owner bought it). we got it from the bank, in less than 45 days, for 200K.. It is energy star, pulte home, all title or bamboo flooring ( no carpet), 5 bedroom ( 3 are masters), 3 bathrooms, on a golf course, Super Nice and the note is super cheap, you can't rent for the price own can own ( my note is under 900 a month) It took me almost 2 months of looking around vegas, but there are thousands of deals if your less picky. Talent is hit and miss.. I have more girls than I can generally shoot with, but I do a lot of mainstream and adult stuff. However I know a handful of adult companies that come to vegas and can't find talent, while other people, have no problem.

02-01-2013, 12:55 AM	#22
SmutHammer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,844	Best I can do is surf the internet and fly down on the weekend to look at places. I'm surprised there are no talent agencies, Maybe someone will open one. Cali doesn't seem like a porn friendly place anymore.

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Mr Pheer Living inside your head. Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In your AirBNB Posts: 20,503	Private school is the way to go here, or home schooled. The public schools here are shit, except for the Magnet schools but that is only grade 9 - 12 and you have to apply to get your kid into one. There are several really good private schools here for a reason. It's worth the money to send your kid to one.

02-01-2013, 11:40 AM	#26
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	Middle schools in the area: http://www.greatschools.org/nevada/h...Middle-School/ http://www.greatschools.org/nevada/h...Middle-School/ Both are held in high regard considering they are public schools.

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