Trinity and Beyond : The Atomic Bomb Movie

[2MuchMark]

Best documentary ever.

[Joshua G]

it's a good watch...on WEED!

the cold war propaganda footage was the most interesting. when i was a kid i bought into that shit hook, line & sinker.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

"The Day After Trinity", a documentary about J. Robert Oppenheimer, is quite good as well...

The film's title comes from an interview seen near the conclusion of the documentary. Robert Oppenheimer is asked for his thoughts on Sen. Robert Kennedy's efforts to urge President Lyndon Johnson to initiate talks to stop the spread of nuclear weapons. "It's 20 years too late," Oppenheimer replies. After a pause he states, "It should have been done the day after Trinity."

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[Rochard]

Originally Posted by **********

Best documentary ever.

I watched the entire thing while I worked this afternoon.. Fucking awesome!

I love that kind of shit.

[buzzard]

Shitty propagandized mainstream dupe sensationalized crap. Right out of the playbook.
Shittiest Docu EVER.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by buzzard

Shitty propagandized mainstream dupe sensationalized crap. Right out of the playbook.
Shittiest Docu EVER.

Now, dont hold anything back, tell us how you really feel

[Mutt]

nice - love watching anything to do with WWII.

looking back the only mistake made was not taking on Stalin - we had the atom bomb, Stalin didn't. we didn't have the stomach for more war and Eastern Europe and Russia itself paid a deep price. CyberSeo will be on here beating his chest proudly for Mother Russia - he needs to watch the doc The Betrayal of Leningrad a few times.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

"The Day After Trinity", a documentary about J. Robert Oppenheimer, is quite good as well...







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Cool! I never heard of this movie. Thanks for the link!

Originally Posted by Rochard

I watched the entire thing while I worked this afternoon.. Fucking awesome!

I love that kind of shit.

I know!! Me too..! I don't know why. It's freakin' scary as hell... I don't know how I was even born. If all these nukes were going on today I think I'd go crazy.

Originally Posted by buzzard

Shitty propagandized mainstream dupe sensationalized crap. Right out of the playbook.
Shittiest Docu EVER.

I think you're talking about those "Duck and Cover" movies, not this one.

[Mutt]

Wow. This movie is very little about Trinity, it's all about the 'Beyond' and it is balls to the wall nuclear madness. After watching it what's most amazing to me is that we are still here. I don't think 1 in a thousand people are aware how many nuclear bombs have been exploded in the atmosphere, under the sea and space. I sure didn't. Most people think of Hiroshima and Nagasaki - the United States alone tested hydrogen bombs 331 times, the film doesn't mention how many Russia and others have. That people haven't been in their path is besides the point, probably 500 nuclear blasts have occurred on this planet - makes me wonder about the alarming cancer rates we blame on so many other things.

It became madness, as the bombs became bigger and more destructive, knowing that each side could wipe civilization off the earth they kept building and setting them off when logic would tell you that there was no point.

The Chinese footage at the end is surreal, calvary horses wearing gas masks racing towards a mushroom cloud.

On the good side, there hasn't been a world war in 70 years because any world power knows the potential end game is mutual annihilation.

[Joshua G]

i wish the movie went into the able archer incident. seems like the producer put so much energy into the early cold war he didnt really cover the end.

able archer...

The realistic nature of the 1983 exercise, coupled with deteriorating relations between the United States and the Soviet Union and the anticipated arrival of strategic Pershing II nuclear missiles in Europe, led some members of the Soviet Politburo and Soviet military to believe that Able Archer 83 was a ruse of war, obscuring preparations for a genuine nuclear first strike.

In response, the Soviets readied their nuclear forces and placed air units in East Germany and Poland on alert. This relatively obscure incident is considered by many historians to be the closest the world has come to nuclear war since the Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962. The threat of nuclear war abruptly ended with the conclusion of the Able Archer 83 exercise on November 11.

[dyna mo]

i gave this doc a c+ when i watched it back when.

visually stunning, shatner narrating, cool music combined with re-enactments make it overly dramatic when the subject matter can stand on its own..........the splicing together of multiple chinese bomb tests at the end simply serve again to overly-dramatize reality.

if you like video of big booms, watch this, if you want a more informative doc with more details on the events of atomic bomb testing watch atomic cafe

[notinmybackyard]

Originally Posted by **********

Best documentary ever.

This documentary makes me want to vomit.

I do not want too much youtube garbage but this was a very good documentary.
Thank you

[John-ACWM]

Hmm, looks interesting, I need my documentary mood.

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh

i wish the movie went into the able archer incident. seems like the producer put so much energy into the early cold war he didnt really cover the end.

able archer...

Reading the Wikipedia article there seems to be different opinions on how close to launching a pre-emptive strike the Soviets were. And the lesson of this affair is that it's likely that nukes will be launched one day because of paranoia or misunderstanding, the ultimate 'DOH!'.

[Coup]

Originally Posted by Mutt

probably 500 nuclear blasts have occurred on this planet

way more

[lucas131]

it have a czech subtitles, cool thank you

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by Mutt

Reading the Wikipedia article there seems to be different opinions on how close to launching a pre-emptive strike the Soviets were. And the lesson of this affair is that it's likely that nukes will be launched one day because of paranoia or misunderstanding, the ultimate 'DOH!'.

yeah...its hard to know the truth since so many facts are classified about the circumstances. its just the story of the cold war has an ending as exciting as the beginning, with star wars, the end of the soviet union & the looting of its military (& our efforts to secure possible loose nukes) but the movie barely touched on these areas.

The great irony is the movie wargames came out the same year as able archer. the parallels between the movie & real events is kinda scary.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Mutt

Wow. This movie is very little about Trinity, it's all about the 'Beyond' and it is balls to the wall nuclear madness. After watching it what's most amazing to me is that we are still here. I don't think 1 in a thousand people are aware how many nuclear bombs have been exploded in the atmosphere, under the sea and space. I sure didn't. Most people think of Hiroshima and Nagasaki - the United States alone tested hydrogen bombs 331 times, the film doesn't mention how many Russia and others have. That people haven't been in their path is besides the point, probably 500 nuclear blasts have occurred on this planet - makes me wonder about the alarming cancer rates we blame on so many other things.

So true. The amount the Americans blew up was insane enough. China, Russia, France, UK, all did tests too. Now North Korea is about to get into the act. Terrifying.

There's a great book called "The day we bombed Utah" about all the tests, and about the worldwide effects that it caused. We ALL, every person on the planet, has a little bit of nuclear poison in them now because of it.

Originally Posted by Mutt

It became madness, as the bombs became bigger and more destructive, knowing that each side could wipe civilization off the earth they kept building and setting them off when logic would tell you that there was no point.

MAD : Mutually Assured Destruction.

Originally Posted by Mutt

The Chinese footage at the end is surreal, calvary horses wearing gas masks racing towards a mushroom cloud.

I know!! It is fucking insane... that whole sequence is just..wow... the horses wearing masks...the soldiers cheering the blast and running & riding into the mushroom cloud, guns blazing... It looks like a war game where they would nuke the enemy first then shoot the radioactive mutated surveyors...

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh

i wish the movie went into the able archer incident. seems like the producer put so much energy into the early cold war he didnt really cover the end.

able archer...

The movie didn't cover the Cuban missile crisis either. It concentrated on actual blasts and tests and left politics mostly out.

[2MuchMark]

Would you like to play a nice game of Global Thermal Nuclear War?



http://www.introversion.co.uk/defcon/

"DEFCON : Everybody dies"

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by **********

The movie didn't cover the Cuban missile crisis either. It concentrated on actual blasts and tests and left politics mostly out.

true. the movie is ultimately about all the pretty mushroom clouds. but the propaganda excerpts, where some dude on a destroyer is narrating to the camera about the need for these bombs, thats as political as it gets. but events that "didnt" happen like the cuban crisis dont have good video clips so...