friend scammed for an apartment.. what to do? help plz.. urgently.. - GoFuckYourself.com

xxweekxx · 02-10-2013, 09:33 AM

OK so my friend in the states got an apartment from craigslist..

she paid the woman cash for the month, drew up a contract with her license/ids/etc...

Shes supposed to move in tomorrow, the owner of the apartment just called and said sorry you cant move in because my mom has issues with me renting it out..

I've already spent your money on wedding gifts for friends, so i'll hopefully give you money back in two weeks or so...

The amount was $1,200

What options does my friend have? im pissed off as well at such a blatant scam, but i dont know if she has any options...fucking craigslist fuckers...

shes thinking she just moves in tomorrow.. she has the keys to the place anyway..

Barefootsies · 02-10-2013, 09:35 AM

1. Seek advice from professional legal counsel beyond GFY.
2. Sue them in small claims court. Get judgement. Garnish their wages. If they default, fuck their credit for 7 years.
3. Cry in your beer.

SuckOnThis · 02-10-2013, 09:37 AM

Tell them you have a contract and you're moving in regardless unless you get your money back immediately.

Markul · 02-10-2013, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

1. Seek advice from professional legal counsel beyond GFY.
2. Sue them in small claims court. Get judgement. Garnish their wages. If they default, fuck their credit for 7 years.
3. Cry in your beer.

I'd go with 1.

Or 4) Go to their house with 2 big dudes, the papers and they keys - demand the money back or that they come and pawn something so they can pay.

But 1 is probably best ;)

CyberHustler · 02-10-2013, 09:39 AM

You need a baseball bat, a clear trunk and a shovel.

xxweekxx · 02-10-2013, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

1. Seek advice from professional legal counsel beyond GFY.
2. Sue them in small claims court. Get judgement. Garnish their wages. If they default, fuck their credit for 7 years.
3. Cry in your beer.

retainer for a lawyer costs more than $1,200.. hehe

small claims court is not a very good option...

Barefootsies · 02-10-2013, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxweekxx

retainer for a lawyer costs more than $1,200.. hehe

4. Purchase a baseball bat, and ski mask. Maybe bring a friend.

L-Pink · 02-10-2013, 09:42 AM

A crime was just committed make a police report then sue for as much as possible in small claims court. No way should he move in and have a conflict from the start.

Markul · 02-10-2013, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

4. Purchase a baseball bat, and ski mask. Bring a friend.

That'd be 5.

bl4h · 02-10-2013, 09:42 AM

a contract is a contract. you have to be aggressive. you will get your money back but to save time in court you should push them. did you (or she) view the apartment in person?

Juicy D. Links · 02-10-2013, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

4. Purchase a baseball bat, and ski mask. Maybe bring a friend.

I like option 4

shake · 02-10-2013, 09:47 AM

This is a very common scam going around right now. It sucks having to deal with dirtbags

. There was a woman doing this where I live, I think she got 20 or so people to pay for the same apartment.

xxweekxx · 02-10-2013, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bl4h

a contract is a contract. you have to be aggressive. you will get your money back but to save time in court you should push them. did you (or she) view the apartment in person?

yes she did, and even got keys..

she just sent me a copy of the contract they drew out on paper.. she also has passport/id of the owner of the apartment...

im pissed beyond belief.. why would you do this to someone... ffs

wehateporn · 02-10-2013, 09:56 AM

Watch Out For This Scam When Looking For Apartments On Craigslist

"Repurposing Craigslist ads to dupe would-be renters into forking over cash is one of the oldest scams in the book. But people still fall for it left and right, and in the era of Google Maps and GPS, it pays to be on guard.
How it works

Using an actual Craigslist ad for a rental property, the crook creates a duplicate with a new email that matches up with the name or address of the property to make it seem more legitimate, says Robert Siciliano, identity theft expert with McAfee.

The asking price is lowered to give the con more appeal, and anyone taking the bait is asked to wire money ASAP because the landlord or owner is out of town. Victims are also told that they can't view the place, but rest assured that they'll be refunded if there's any issue.

What renters should know

Renters should go by the mantra, "If it's too good to be true, it is," Siciliano warns. "Whenever the landlord says they're out of the country, that's a red flag it's a scam. No matter how they play it, no one's gone." Also: No savvy renter should even think about paying for a place they haven't seen and found to their liking.

You've also got to do your homework. Check the seller out, ask to see a valid, state-issued ID, view the deed to the place and get as much information as you can, even if it's a tad bit annoying, Siciliano says. "You can't be too trusting when you're handing someone a check for $3,000."

Also be mindful of swapping any personally identifiable information over email and block out your social security number on documentation when possible. Never, ever email your SSN, and if you do give your SSN on an application and they don't rent to you, go over to their place and get the application back and shred it.

Another helpful trick is to research the ad itself. Plug some of the body of the ad into Craigslist or perform a simple Google search to see if the same ad pops up on different sites and/or with different info. "If that happens, it is definitely a tip-off," says Siciliano before adding that crooks make little effort to change the ad, aside from switching around the email or phone number. "(The ads are) pretty much boilerplate; crooks change the ad content, contacts and price. It's the least amount of labor with the most possible return."
Homeowners should be on guard too

As a homeowner posting a rental ad online, you should do just as much, if not more, of the homework outlined above. Ask to see the prospective renter's valid ID, wait for checks to clear way past when they should, and contact your bank to ensure it went through.

Finally, when asked to share social media profiles, keep in mind what information you're making them privy to. You always want to limit whatever you're revealing about yourself, so with these transactions, it's best to meet in person. "

http://articles.businessinsider.com/...#ixzz2KW4haCvZ

xxweekxx · 02-10-2013, 10:00 AM

Thanks porn, but they did see the apartment in person... they got a contract with the person's passport + ID (License)

And they didnt wire any money... They gave her cash.. They also got keys to the place..

brassmonkey · 02-10-2013, 10:01 AM

find out where her wedding is and show up.

L-Pink · 02-10-2013, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxweekxx

And they didnt wire any money... They gave her cash..

Major mistake. Did they get a written receipt for the cash?

.

bl4h · 02-10-2013, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxweekxx

yes she did, and even got keys..

she just sent me a copy of the contract they drew out on paper.. she also has passport/id of the owner of the apartment...

im pissed beyond belief.. why would you do this to someone... ffs

ya i would get involved if i were you to help your friend, and tell this woman straight up, we have a contract, and i will be moving in. If this womans mother doesnt approve, that isnt your problem, thats her problem and she would need to tell her mother that its already a done deal. Court is a pain in the ass and a long process. I would move to the apartment, and if theres one more problem with these people then take it to court, and get all fees back including moving fees

baddog · 02-10-2013, 10:05 AM

Another CL success story

L-Pink · 02-10-2013, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bl4h

ya i would get involved if i were you to help your friend, and tell this woman straight up, we have a contract, and i will be moving in. If this womans mother doesnt approve, that isnt your problem, thats her problem and she would need to tell her mother that its already a done deal. Court is a pain in the ass and a long process. I would move to the apartment, and if theres one more problem with these people then take it to court, and get all fees back including moving

Never move in under duress. As a landlord I could find ways to harass and find violations of a basic rental agreement almost everyday.

.

xxweekxx · 02-10-2013, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Major mistake. Did they get a written receipt for the cash?

.

No, but the contract mentions the money and what its for..

Google Expert · 02-10-2013, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxweekxx

retainer for a lawyer costs more than $1,200.. hehe

but if you win in court, they have to pay all your expenses

bl4h · 02-10-2013, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Never move in under duress. As a landlord I could find ways to harass and find violations of a basic rental agreement almost everyday.

.

thats true. i just assumed there wasnt a detailed lease. you cant be removes or harassed without written rules

Google Expert · 02-10-2013, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Tell them you have a contract and you're moving in regardless unless you get your money back immediately.

This won't help because the contract is not valid (because the apartment doesn't belong to that person and they had no legal power signing the contract).

xxweekxx · 02-10-2013, 10:08 AM

ok she called the chic, and said im moving in tomorrow regardless, and now she says shes gonna call her mom..

Kovachi · 02-10-2013, 10:12 AM

Your best bet would be to contact Tony Montana and ask for advice.

woj · 02-10-2013, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shake

This is a very common scam going around right now. It sucks having to deal with dirtbags

. There was a woman doing this where I live, I think she got 20 or so people to pay for the same apartment.

that's more likely than not is what happened, you are shit out of luck probably...

ninavain · 02-10-2013, 10:24 AM

If your friend was packing a firearm..this type of thing would've been avoided

Some Guy · 02-10-2013, 10:44 AM

If a lease was signed she can just move in regardless. The landlord will then have to evict her which is a pain and will take at least (at least) 30 days.

brassmonkey · 02-10-2013, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninavain

If your friend was packing a firearm..this type of thing would've been avoided

if your an idiot

sure

SuckOnThis · 02-10-2013, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cylon

This won't help because the contract is not valid (because the apartment doesn't belong to that person and they had no legal power signing the contract).

The OP didnt make it clear who actually owned it, but if the mother owns it then I would threaten to have the mother dragged into it. Make them think you're going to have their mother arrested and they may work a little harder to get the money back.

xNetworx · 02-10-2013, 11:07 AM

call the cops

2013 · 02-10-2013, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

4. Purchase a baseball bat, and ski mask. Maybe bring a friend.

slapass · 02-10-2013, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Tell them you have a contract and you're moving in regardless unless you get your money back immediately.

This. Moving in sounds great but you are in for a world of BS so why bother?

Sly · 02-10-2013, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxweekxx

ok she called the chic, and said im moving in tomorrow regardless, and now she says shes gonna call her mom..

Tell your friend to show up with the contract. When the woman does not let your friend move in, have your friend call the police. They will show up and then bare minimum, provide guidance. This woman cannot simply ditch your friend like that, especially when it comes to matters of a home.

Is your friend in California? California is very tenant friendly.

HandballJim · 02-10-2013, 11:27 AM

I would go file a police report ASAP, contact an attorney for console...don't hire him yet. If they don't refund her money in 2 weeks, threaten legal action. Make sure you find out what car she is driving, take down her plate number, take a picture of her, you can post her photo everywhere in town as a scammer.

I would tell her I am having some friends pick up the money in two weeks, oh and by the way my friends just got out of jail for murder.

ilnjscb · 02-10-2013, 11:37 AM

If she has a receipt for the payment ... Contact the police and file a small claims case. You don't need a lawyer for under 5k. Then ask a policeman to accompany her to move in. Video the results.

Never pay with cash to an unknown.

seeandsee · 02-10-2013, 11:43 AM

get a gun
...
profit

DWB · 02-10-2013, 12:55 PM

give them 48 hours to return the money or burn the place to the ground

Spudstr · 02-10-2013, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxweekxx

Thanks porn, but they did see the apartment in person... they got a contract with the person's passport + ID (License)

And they didnt wire any money... They gave her cash.. They also got keys to the place..

Not sure what state they are in, but if you have a contract and have the keys you have legal possession. My wife managed 600+ apartments for 6 years.

Now if he rented it out and he did not own it, i.e his mother did then he just committed fraud and should be arrested by the police.

Best case call the police.

TheSquealer · 02-10-2013, 04:29 PM

First obvious step is to call police. Money is stolen. End of story. "I'll pay it in two weeks" is irrelevant. Try walking pit of store with an item - then if you get caught say "uh, yeah ill pay you in two weeks" and see where that leads.

Tick Tock...

People are fucking idiots and this is why this shit happens. Call the police ASAP. Done.

NaughtyNerdy · 02-10-2013, 05:18 PM

This sounds like the exact plot line of dont trust the bitch in apartment 23. Damn your friend got scammed. Go to the cops

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-10-2013, 05:32 PM

housings

rogueteens · 02-10-2013, 05:45 PM

you have the keys, readvertise the house on CL

directfiesta · 02-10-2013, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberHustler

You need a baseball bat, a clear trunk and a shovel.

.. and Joe Pesci ...

Note: I have the other end of the bat .. A tenant that does not pay ... and I can`t kick them out till I get a court order.

_Richard_ · 02-10-2013, 05:48 PM

if they saw the apartment it's probably not a scam and more of a fuck up

FreeHugeMovies · 02-10-2013, 05:53 PM

Someone who gives cash for something like this is an IDIOT.

livexxx · 02-10-2013, 05:54 PM

police help desk

brassmonkey · 02-10-2013, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

Someone who gives cash for something like this is an IDIOT.

its happening because the owners live out of state

Tony Soundview · 02-10-2013, 06:33 PM

Im from the soundview projects in the bronx and when someone steals or owes you money, here is how you get it back. 1. Consider the $1200 gone. 2. Scope out the neighborhood for someone willing to do a home invasion. If you're from the hood u know these cats. 3. Tell him, they have your 1200 cash and they can keep it if they can find it in the house. 4. Throw in and extra $1000 if they beat her mom and leave her on the sidewalk.

The legal process will take to long and will cost just as much.

02-10-2013, 09:33 AM	#1
xxweekxx Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,780	friend scammed for an apartment.. what to do? help plz.. urgently.. OK so my friend in the states got an apartment from craigslist.. she paid the woman cash for the month, drew up a contract with her license/ids/etc... Shes supposed to move in tomorrow, the owner of the apartment just called and said sorry you cant move in because my mom has issues with me renting it out.. I've already spent your money on wedding gifts for friends, so i'll hopefully give you money back in two weeks or so... The amount was $1,200 What options does my friend have? im pissed off as well at such a blatant scam, but i dont know if she has any options...fucking craigslist fuckers... shes thinking she just moves in tomorrow.. she has the keys to the place anyway.. __________________ _________________ I am the best

02-10-2013, 09:35 AM	#2
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	1. Seek advice from professional legal counsel beyond GFY. 2. Sue them in small claims court. Get judgement. Garnish their wages. If they default, fuck their credit for 7 years. 3. Cry in your beer. __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?" Last edited by Barefootsies; 02-10-2013 at 09:36 AM..

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bl4h Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 1,282	a contract is a contract. you have to be aggressive. you will get your money back but to save time in court you should push them. did you (or she) view the apartment in person? Last edited by bl4h; 02-10-2013 at 09:44 AM..

02-10-2013, 09:47 AM	#12
shake frc Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bitcoin wallet Posts: 4,663	This is a very common scam going around right now. It sucks having to deal with dirtbags . There was a woman doing this where I live, I think she got 20 or so people to pay for the same apartment. Last edited by shake; 02-10-2013 at 09:49 AM..

02-10-2013, 09:56 AM	#14
wehateporn Promoting Debate on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 27,173	Watch Out For This Scam When Looking For Apartments On Craigslist "Repurposing Craigslist ads to dupe would-be renters into forking over cash is one of the oldest scams in the book. But people still fall for it left and right, and in the era of Google Maps and GPS, it pays to be on guard. How it works Using an actual Craigslist ad for a rental property, the crook creates a duplicate with a new email that matches up with the name or address of the property to make it seem more legitimate, says Robert Siciliano, identity theft expert with McAfee. The asking price is lowered to give the con more appeal, and anyone taking the bait is asked to wire money ASAP because the landlord or owner is out of town. Victims are also told that they can't view the place, but rest assured that they'll be refunded if there's any issue. What renters should know Renters should go by the mantra, "If it's too good to be true, it is," Siciliano warns. "Whenever the landlord says they're out of the country, that's a red flag it's a scam. No matter how they play it, no one's gone." Also: No savvy renter should even think about paying for a place they haven't seen and found to their liking. You've also got to do your homework. Check the seller out, ask to see a valid, state-issued ID, view the deed to the place and get as much information as you can, even if it's a tad bit annoying, Siciliano says. "You can't be too trusting when you're handing someone a check for $3,000." Also be mindful of swapping any personally identifiable information over email and block out your social security number on documentation when possible. Never, ever email your SSN, and if you do give your SSN on an application and they don't rent to you, go over to their place and get the application back and shred it. Another helpful trick is to research the ad itself. Plug some of the body of the ad into Craigslist or perform a simple Google search to see if the same ad pops up on different sites and/or with different info. "If that happens, it is definitely a tip-off," says Siciliano before adding that crooks make little effort to change the ad, aside from switching around the email or phone number. "(The ads are) pretty much boilerplate; crooks change the ad content, contacts and price. It's the least amount of labor with the most possible return." Homeowners should be on guard too As a homeowner posting a rental ad online, you should do just as much, if not more, of the homework outlined above. Ask to see the prospective renter's valid ID, wait for checks to clear way past when they should, and contact your bank to ensure it went through. Finally, when asked to share social media profiles, keep in mind what information you're making them privy to. You always want to limit whatever you're revealing about yourself, so with these transactions, it's best to meet in person. " http://articles.businessinsider.com/...#ixzz2KW4haCvZ __________________ Sexy Girls Teasing Last edited by wehateporn; 02-10-2013 at 09:59 AM..

02-10-2013, 09:37 AM	#3
SuckOnThis So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In my head Posts: 6,844	Tell them you have a contract and you're moving in regardless unless you get your money back immediately.

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02-10-2013, 09:42 AM	#8
L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,151	A crime was just committed make a police report then sue for as much as possible in small claims court. No way should he move in and have a conflict from the start.

02-10-2013, 10:00 AM	#15
xxweekxx Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,780	Thanks porn, but they did see the apartment in person... they got a contract with the person's passport + ID (License) And they didnt wire any money... They gave her cash.. They also got keys to the place.. __________________ _________________ I am the best

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02-10-2013, 10:08 AM	#25
xxweekxx Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,780	ok she called the chic, and said im moving in tomorrow regardless, and now she says shes gonna call her mom.. __________________ _________________ I am the best

02-10-2013, 10:12 AM	#26
Kovachi So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 400	Your best bet would be to contact Tony Montana and ask for advice.

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ninavain So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 6,268	If your friend was packing a firearm..this type of thing would've been avoided

02-10-2013, 10:44 AM	#29
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02-10-2013, 11:07 AM	#32
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02-10-2013, 11:27 AM	#36
HandballJim Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 4,024	I would go file a police report ASAP, contact an attorney for console...don't hire him yet. If they don't refund her money in 2 weeks, threaten legal action. Make sure you find out what car she is driving, take down her plate number, take a picture of her, you can post her photo everywhere in town as a scammer. I would tell her I am having some friends pick up the money in two weeks, oh and by the way my friends just got out of jail for murder. __________________ HOW I MAKE LOTS OF $$$ Last edited by HandballJim; 02-10-2013 at 11:37 AM..

02-10-2013, 11:37 AM	#37
ilnjscb Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 8,870	If she has a receipt for the payment ... Contact the police and file a small claims case. You don't need a lawyer for under 5k. Then ask a policeman to accompany her to move in. Video the results. Never pay with cash to an unknown.

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02-10-2013, 04:29 PM	#41
TheSquealer Mayor of Thneedville Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 25,224	First obvious step is to call police. Money is stolen. End of story. "I'll pay it in two weeks" is irrelevant. Try walking pit of store with an item - then if you get caught say "uh, yeah ill pay you in two weeks" and see where that leads. Tick Tock... People are fucking idiots and this is why this shit happens. Call the police ASAP. Done. __________________ . Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens. Rochard

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NaughtyNerdy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 305	This sounds like the exact plot line of dont trust the bitch in apartment 23. Damn your friend got scammed. Go to the cops

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02-10-2013, 06:33 PM	#50
Tony Soundview Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 62	Im from the soundview projects in the bronx and when someone steals or owes you money, here is how you get it back. 1. Consider the $1200 gone. 2. Scope out the neighborhood for someone willing to do a home invasion. If you're from the hood u know these cats. 3. Tell him, they have your 1200 cash and they can keep it if they can find it in the house. 4. Throw in and extra $1000 if they beat her mom and leave her on the sidewalk. The legal process will take to long and will cost just as much. __________________ Newbie