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Old 05-21-2014, 06:22 AM   #1
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Citizen Koch Official Trailer (2014) : Looks really interesting.


If there was ever any doubt in your mind... this should blow it all away.
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Old 05-21-2014, 07:18 AM   #2
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Old 05-21-2014, 08:13 AM   #3
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So let's get this straight:

Billionaires donating money to Republicans = bad

but

Billionaires donating money to Democrats = good.

Is that the spin I am supposed to get from this obviously hypocritical and vacuous "documentary"?
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So let's get this straight:

Billionaires donating money to Republicans = bad

but

Billionaires donating money to Democrats = good.

Is that the spin I am supposed to get from this obviously hypocritical and vacuous "documentary"?
No. There used to be a cap on how much a person or corp could give to help someone win an election but the laws have changed allowing so much money to be used, that it is now possible to bend laws towards whatever the donors want such as zero taxes for oil companies, reduced regulations for industry (oil again), reduced regulations on food & farmers, etc. Both republicans and Democrats (and others I assume) can take that money. The question is : Are you ok with it nullifying your vote?
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Old 05-21-2014, 11:34 AM   #5
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seems well done, but is there anything new? There are LOTS of docs about the tea Party, the Koch's etc. I didn't hear anything that would make me think there is new info?
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Old 05-21-2014, 11:47 AM   #6
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Old 05-21-2014, 01:18 PM   #7
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No. There used to be a cap on how much a person or corp could give to help someone win an election but the laws have changed allowing so much money to be used, that it is now possible to bend laws towards whatever the donors want such as zero taxes for oil companies, reduced regulations for industry (oil again), reduced regulations on food & farmers, etc. Both republicans and Democrats (and others I assume) can take that money. The question is : Are you ok with it nullifying your vote?
Well I'm not American so I obviously don't get a vote there anyways.

The question regarding this documentary is why is it okay for Democrats to accept money from billionaires who seek to advance their interests but it's not okay for Republicans?

Where are the documentaries called "Citizen Soros" or "Citizen Steyer"?

Why is okay for unions to try and buy elections by throwing all of their weight and money behind the Democrats?

I can guarantee you that if the Koch brothers were donating that money to the Democrats for the same causes there would be no documentary about it and most people would never know who they were.
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Well I'm not American so I obviously don't get a vote there anyways.

The question regarding this documentary is why is it okay for Democrats to accept money from billionaires who seek to advance their interests but it's not okay for Republicans?

Where are the documentaries called "Citizen Soros" or "Citizen Steyer"?

Why is okay for unions to try and buy elections by throwing all of their weight and money behind the Democrats?

I can guarantee you that if the Koch brothers were donating that money to the Democrats for the same causes there would be no documentary about it and most people would never know who they were.
no, none of it is ok. and unions lol
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Well I'm not American so I obviously don't get a vote there anyways.

The question regarding this documentary is why is it okay for Democrats to accept money from billionaires who seek to advance their interests but it's not okay for Republicans?

Where are the documentaries called "Citizen Soros" or "Citizen Steyer"?

Why is okay for unions to try and buy elections by throwing all of their weight and money behind the Democrats?

I can guarantee you that if the Koch brothers were donating that money to the Democrats for the same causes there would be no documentary about it and most people would never know who they were.
I won't know what its really about until I see it, but to me it looks like its about how the Koch brothers can influence US politics so much. Hopefully it will show much much money some politicians were paid too.
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So let's get this straight:

Billionaires donating money to Republicans = bad

but

Billionaires donating money to Democrats = good.

Is that the spin I am supposed to get from this obviously hypocritical and vacuous "documentary"?
The problem with Republican donors is that all of their causes are to make themselves richer, not to better the lives of citizens.
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I won't know what its really about until I see it, but to me it looks like its about how the Koch brothers can influence US politics so much. Hopefully it will show much much money some politicians were paid too.
Have you see that movie about how George Soros can influence US politics ??
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ourse-win-201/
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The problem with Republican donors is that all of their causes are to make themselves richer, not to better the lives of citizens.
REALLY? You cannot seriously be THAT much of a naive party hack, can you?


http://www.vice.com/read/the-democra...money-fracking


" Looking for the fight over the heart and soul of the Democratic Party in the waning days of the Obama administration? Next Tuesday morning, take the elevator to the eighth floor of a downtown Washington, DC, building and step into the offices of America's Natural Gas Alliance (ANGA), the premier lobbying group for some of the largest fracking companies in the world.

While much of the talk about a progressive revival revolves around populist figures like New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio and Senator Elizabeth Warren, there are other, better funded efforts afoot. Corporate titans from finance to natural gas to big retail to telecom are attempting to steer the party, and as the midterms shape up, these interests are pushing to ensure they continue to have wide sway over America's only viable outlet for center-left expression at the polls. Which brings us to the latest venture in corporate-centered party-building and the group hosting a chat in ANGA's headquarters: The NewDEAL.

Created by Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley and Senator Mark Begich of Alaska, the NewDEAL is one of several cash-rich efforts to resurrect the Democratic Party's flailing bench of electable candidates.

This NewDEAL has little in common with President Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal platform, which pledged to save capitalism from itself by cracking down on predatory banking institutions and restoring workplace rights for Americans. No, this NewDEAL is a 501(c)(4) issue-advocacy nonprofit, a tax vehicle which allows campaign activity without disclosure of donors, and its name is an acronym for "Developing Exceptional American Leaders."

The group, touted as a platform to "highlight rising pro-business progressives," is led by Democrats who have made a name for themselves by bucking the populist trend. They include NewDeal co-chair Senator Cory Booker of New Jersey, whose zeal for the charterization of public schools and love of Wall Street makes him indistinguishable from many across the aisle. The other co-chair, Governor John Hickenlooper of Colorado, has staked a position in his state's energy wars as a staunch defender of drillers.

VICE has obtained a "supporter list" showing donors of the NewDEAL, which reads like a who's who of corporations seeking government access: Comcast, Fluor, Merck, Microsoft, New York Life, Pfizer, Qualcomm, Verizon, Wal-Mart, the Private Equity Growth Capital Council, among others, including, of course, the host of Tuesday's event, ANGA.

While the disclosure of a secret list of political funders is always a worthwhile revelation, it's also worth noting that the same corporate forces that Democrats are leaning on are propping up the far-right tilt of the Republicans as well. On the local level, meaning state legislative races, there are two competing committees, the RSLC for the GOP and DLCC for Dems. A VICE review of recent campaign filings show that the two committees share many of the same top 25 donors: Wal-Mart, Pfizer, tobacco giant Reynolds America, PhRMA (a drug industry trade group), AT&T, and Comcast cut the biggest checks for both the RSLC and the DLCC."





http://www.ijreview.com/2014/05/1362...snt-want-know/

" Do You Know the Billionaire Who Donates Millions to Democrats & Would Profit by Blocking Keystone?

It?s no secret that Harry Reid and the Democrats love to rail against ?unlimited? campaign contributions by ?billionaires.? (See: Koch brothers)

What is a secret ? or so they think ? is this:

Democrats have no problem accepting millions from billionaire ex-hedge-fund manager Tom Steyer, who just last month pledged $50 million to support candidates opposed to the Keystone XL Pipeline, but has made millions off the very industries he claims are destroying the environment. (Steyer also pledged $50 million in February in support of global warming initiatives.)

Incidentally, Steyer has investments in both a competing pipeline venture and ?green energy? companies as well.

Hey, politics is politics. But the blatant hypocrisy ? by the Democrats and Steyer ? is off the charts."











You party people are such blind sheep sometimes.... seriously.







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