So how long until Manwin collapses? - GoFuckYourself.com

signupdamnit · 02-25-2013, 05:28 PM

1. CEO was in jail.
2. Tax issues.
3. Government investigations
4. Layoffs
5. Rumors about trying to renegotiate deals due to lack of revenues

People always say that the mighty never fall but in this industry history shows that the biggest players are often built on a house of cards.

How long do you think it will be until they fall or something happens like they get bought out or have their assets broken up?

I give it eight months. They are already bleeding.

epitome · 02-25-2013, 05:30 PM

When did the layoffs start? I missed that part.

signupdamnit · 02-25-2013, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

When did the layoffs start? I missed that part.

There have been a few http://pornnewstoday.com/pnt/?p=298 but the recent one I heard was in Germany. Supposedly they are being replaced with workers in Ireland though.

Supz · 02-25-2013, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

When did the layoffs start? I missed that part.

he thinks because they fired people in germany, to move there office to ireland or wherever its going is layoffs.

Mark67 · 02-25-2013, 05:34 PM

If Manwin collapses, that would mean most of the best sites gone.

DatePoster · 02-25-2013, 05:39 PM

collapse in motion...

marlboroack · 02-25-2013, 05:47 PM

10 days, 2 hours, 46 mins, 24 seconds

Barefootsies · 02-25-2013, 05:55 PM

Too big toe fail.

brassmonkey · 02-25-2013, 05:57 PM

stop worrying if they collapsed someone would fill the gap.

theres money to be made

My Fucking Traffic · 02-25-2013, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by marlboroack

10 days, 2 hours, 46 mins, 24 seconds

I'll go with 10 days, 2 hours, 46 minutes and 23 seconds, Bob.

BFT3K · 02-25-2013, 06:19 PM

Nice!

pornmasta · 02-25-2013, 06:24 PM

it would hurt my balls :/

pornmasta · 02-25-2013, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

stop worrying if they collapsed someone would fill the gap.

theres money to be made

exactly

EriktheRabbit · 02-25-2013, 06:29 PM

They'll be on life support by the end of the year.
Playboy already told them to stick it...The rest will follow.

JFK · 02-25-2013, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by EriktheRabbit

They'll be on life support by the end of the year.
Playboy already told them to stick it...The rest will follow.

Any Proof ??

pornmasta · 02-25-2013, 07:07 PM

btw is everything fine for playboy ?

tokmansta · 02-25-2013, 07:21 PM

Which are the tubes owned by Manwin?

mechanicvirus · 02-25-2013, 07:23 PM

pbbc dumped manwin, they will die soon.

My Fucking Traffic · 02-25-2013, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mechanicvirus

pbbc dumped manwin, they will die soon.

PBBC, Inc subsidiary of Pepperidge Farms, owned by ABC International, subsidiary of NBC Universal, owned by my dad who is your mom, has cut all funding to Manwin.

ircandy · 02-25-2013, 07:28 PM

I hope they don't collapse. MofosCash is one my better converting sponsors.

EriktheRabbit · 02-25-2013, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK

Any Proof ??

It was already reported on mainstream news that Playboy is not interested in deal re-negotiation. Its a standard move for companies to get their properties back in deals not doing well.

You have two fingers, do the walkin'.

RyuLion · 02-25-2013, 07:38 PM

huh? lol.........

PornMD · 02-25-2013, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

stop worrying if they collapsed someone would fill the gap.

theres money to be made

Not as much as there used to be, thanks to assholes like them.

NemesisEnforcer · 02-25-2013, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK

Any Proof ??

Probably based on the article in the Wall Street Journal.

ottopottomouse · 02-25-2013, 08:37 PM

'layoffs' were just moving away from Germany to somewhere more friendly.

mikesouth · 02-25-2013, 09:28 PM

Interesting timing SUD you may be closer to the truth than you know

I had a long talk with a playboy honcho tonight

Barefootsies · 02-25-2013, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

Interesting timing SUD you may be closer to the truth than you know

I had a long talk with a playboy honcho tonight

JFK · 02-25-2013, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NemesisEnforcer

Probably based on the article in the Wall Street Journal.

Thanks for the hint

Mutt · 02-26-2013, 12:03 AM

if Manwin comes up short on their payments Playboy will have to go after them legally but i think the last thing they want back are those cable channels and websites.

EddyTheDog · 02-26-2013, 12:06 AM

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Already Manwin has tried to renegotiate the $14 million it promised to pay Playboy annually because the digital and TV content isn't generating enough revenue, according to people familiar with the matter.

A Manwin spokeswoman declined to comment. Playboy said that, while such discussions were initiated, it refused to accommodate a reduction of its minimum guarantees.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...YWORDS=playboy

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 02-26-2013, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Can hardly wait for the Poohbah of Porn (Fabian Thylmann), to quit lurking and finally man-up and make a post to try and clear everything up once and for all...

The lack of info coming out of Manwin since their (supposed) leader was released from jail to house arrest (after having to post a multi-millon dollar bond), makes one wonder if Fabian is even in charge at Manwin anymore, or if instead Antoon Feras (the former Mansef money-laundering era management holdover) has in essence staged a bloodless coup and taken over, and is still the one calling the shots while Fabian remains on house arrest awaiting trial (Feras is the one that claimed in the only official announcement that I have seen, that he in-effect was in charge of Manwin when Fabian Thylmann was indisposed, sitting in a jail cell for weeks in December, on suspicion of massive tax evasion, and possibly other criminal wrongdoing).

All of the negative publicity over the past few months has certainly tarnished the image and sullied the reputation that Manwin tried so hard to cultivate/buy in order to appear legitimate to investors and takeover targets. It must be pretty unsettling to Manwin's investors to now see everything going sour so quickly.

Manwin has fallen from seemingly omnipotent, to unseemly and fairly impotent, in the course of a few short months, with the company currently in a crisis/siege mentality mode, maintaining a virtual PR lockdown.

ADG

looky_lou · 02-26-2013, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

if Manwin comes up short on their payments Playboy will have to go after them legally but i think the last thing they want back are those cable channels and websites.

I think you are right. Those properties were bad when they unloaded them on Manwin and they are even worse now.

SGS · 02-26-2013, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

'layoffs' were just moving away from Germany to somewhere more friendly.

Ireland is going to be a LOT more friendly

v4 media · 02-26-2013, 03:42 AM

Renegotiating deals.. If an asset doesn't perform as well as you were lead to believe, you try and adjust the deal nope?

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

There have been a few http://pornnewstoday.com/pnt/?p=298 but the recent one I heard was in Germany. Supposedly they are being replaced with workers in Ireland though.

Lowering your corp tax rate to 12% makes perfect sense.

blackmonsters · 02-26-2013, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by marlboroack

10 days, 2 hours, 46 mins, 24 seconds

Is that when you promised to pay them?
If so then yeah, they're fucked.

Matyko · 02-26-2013, 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

1. CEO was in jail.
2. Tax issues.
3. Government investigations
4. Layoffs
5. Rumors about trying to renegotiate deals due to lack of revenues

People always say that the mighty never fall but in this industry history shows that the biggest players are often built on a house of cards.

How long do you think it will be until they fall or something happens like they get bought out or have their assets broken up?

I give it eight months. They are already bleeding.

They are strong and won't go nowhere in the near future I am 99.99% sure.

slapass · 02-26-2013, 06:20 AM

Anyone who has done as many deals as they have is likely to have done a few bad ones. How would there tubes even go under at this point? Playboy used to be a great company but now? Seems like maybe they would want to give back those channels.

SomeCreep · 02-26-2013, 06:54 AM

Never. Too big to fail.

beerptrol · 02-26-2013, 07:05 AM

If things ever get that bad, they'll do the porn shuffle. Start up a "new" company under "new" ownership and transfer their sites over to themselves

Legendary Samir - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-26-2013, 07:34 AM

Haters galore.

My Fucking Traffic · 02-26-2013, 07:45 AM

Manwin isn't going anywhere, speculate all you want.

NewNick · 02-26-2013, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by v4 media

Renegotiating deals.. If an asset doesn't perform as well as you were lead to believe, you try and adjust the deal nope?

Lowering your corp tax rate to 12% makes perfect sense.

Corp tax is irrelevant if the territory is fervently anti adult.

Ireland is a crazy decision. I dont care if lots of big corps are there. Ireland is an incredibly conservative country, Germany is Porn heaven in comparison.

SomeCreep · 02-26-2013, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by venusgal

I'll go with 10 days, 2 hours, 46 minutes and 23 seconds, Bob.

who is that girl in your sig?

Google Expert · 02-26-2013, 08:01 AM

well, someone has to pay all those borrowed millions back

My Fucking Traffic · 02-26-2013, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep

who is that girl in your sig?

My mom who is also your dad.

adultmobile · 02-26-2013, 08:57 AM

This is not true until Mike South says it.

signupdamnit · 02-26-2013, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

Interesting timing SUD you may be closer to the truth than you know

I had a long talk with a playboy honcho tonight

Oh I bet it is close to the truth. The big guys never want to let anyone see them sweat because half of the industry is built on a house of cards and appearances. When they do finally show weakness it's usually because they have no choice and they can no longer hide it.

I'll definitely be monitoring your blog for new info.

mikesouth · 02-26-2013, 10:07 AM

So sayeth

http://www.mikesouth.com

mechanicvirus · 02-26-2013, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Legendary Samir

Haters galore.

Kevin Blatt galore!

nikki99 · 02-26-2013, 11:58 AM

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