5 People Dead or Alive You Most Admire?

[Mutt]

Statesmen, writers, heroes, musicians, scientists, military, comedians, business tycoons ........ any walk of life. family/friends excluded.

1.Thomas Jefferson/Ben Franklin
2.Albert Einstein
3.Carl Sagan
4.Che Guevara
5.George Patton

[harvey]

Originally Posted by Mutt

Statesmen, writers, heroes, musicians, scientists, military, comedians, business tycoons ........ any walk of life. family/friends excluded.

1.Thomas Jefferson/Ben Franklin
2.Albert Einstein
3.Carl Sagan
4.Che Guevara
5.George Patton

you cheated

[Look Chang]

1. Charles de Gaulle
2. Jim Morrison
3. Alfred Hitchcock
4. Freddie Mercury
5. Lady Gaga

[Grapesoda]

1. yoyo ma
2. steven hawkings
3. don van vliet
4. chesty puller
5. percy jones

[mospunk]

1: John Lennon

er... that's it

[NewNick]

1. Churchill.
2. George Harrison.
3. Attila the Hun.
4. Sir Alex Ferguson.
5. Stephen Fry.

Not necessarily in that order.

[Grapesoda]

and this guy: 2nd Lt. Maudet. one bad mother fucker...

[seeandsee]

I made up some fake dead people:
Hitler Clinton
Pinoche Toucher
Saddam Ahmanidezhan
Stalin Lincoln
Bush Obama

[georgeyw]

1. Peter Brock
2. Mick Doohan
3. George Carlin
4. Bloke up the road who built himself an entire race track in his back yard - couple k's in length
5. Johnny Cash

[Relentless]

Einstein
Steve Jobs
Dr. Seuss
Aristotle
John Locke

Having never met them I can't admire them as people, but in terms of their accomplishments for society Id go with these five.

[MPGdevil]

John Ronald Reuel Tolkien
Stephen William Hawking
Leonardo di Ser Piero da Vinci
Bill Gates
The person who "invented" pizza

[EroticistFilms]

1) Victoria Principal
2) Marvin Gaye
3) Roberto Clemente
4) Jack Kevorkian
5) Alan Grayson

[DeadFidel]

Originally Posted by Mutt

Statesmen, writers, heroes, musicians, scientists, military, comedians, business tycoons ........ any walk of life. family/friends excluded.

1.Thomas Jefferson/Ben Franklin
2.Albert Einstein
3.Carl Sagan
4.Che Guevara
5.George Patton

That's 6 btw.

Che Guevara helped in the killing my father in 1961 so

[LeRoy]

John Lennon
Jimi Hendrix
Bob Marley
Jerry Garcia
Brent Mydland

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by Mutt

4.Che Guevara

Really Che Guevara?

What did you most admire, his hatred of blacks, His brutality towards gays and musicians with long hair, or his murder and theft from families who's only crime was starting a small business? Perhaps it was his on-the-spot executions of small farmers that refused to give up their land to the revolutionaries?

"To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary...These procedures are an archaic bourgeois detail. This is a revolution! And a revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate. We must create the pedagogy of the The Wall! (El Paredón)" --Ernesto 'Che' Guevara




I can see what you admire in him.... There is just so much to love!!



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[PR_Glen]

i have far too many interests to pick a few people like that.. you have no idea.. heh

you mentioned franklin, you read his autobiography? I have heard good things about it, i have it just haven't read it yet.

[Antonio]

Chinggis Khaan, piriod

[Tofu]

Hmmmm...The list is endless, but here are 5 of them:

1. My Mother
2. Prince
3. Mr Marylou
4. Sarah Jayne
5. J Dilla




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[DeadFidel]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Really Che Guevara?


Perhaps it was his on-the-spot executions of small farmers that refused to give up their land to the revolutionaries?


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That was pretty much what he did with my Father more or less. One day they picked him up and we NEVER saw him again.

[John-ACWM]

Originally Posted by Tofu

Hmmmm...The list is endless, but here are 5 of them:

1. My Mother

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by DeadFidel

That was pretty much what he did with my Father more or less. One day they picked him up and we NEVER saw him again.

That is so horrible.


It drives me nuts when I see idiots waving flags or wearing shirts with his picture on it and seem to have no idea what a disgusting narcissistic thug, murderer and coward that animal Che really was.

The only thing I wish for people that think that Che is cool, is for them to have to have the same kind of person come to THEIR front door with an assassination squad and watch how cool he seems then.







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[See Cig]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

1. yoyo ma
2. steven hawkings
3. don van vliet
4. chesty puller
5. percy jones

Meet yoyo ma last night.

[2012]

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

That is so horrible.

It drives me nuts when I see idiots waving flags or wearing shirts with his picture on it and seem to have no idea what a disgusting narcissistic thug, murderer and coward that animal Che really was.

The only thing I wish for people that think that Che is cool, is for them to have to have the same kind of person come to THEIR front door with an assassination squad and watch how cool he seems then.



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yeah, same here, i never understood why so many people worship a murderer

[HomerSimpson]

5. Hannibal
4. Eugen de Savoy
3. Nikola Tesla
2. Napoleon
1. Gadafi

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by See Cig

Meet yoyo ma last night.

whoa!

[LeRoy]

Originally Posted by Tofu

Hmmmm...The list is endless, but here are 5 of them:

1. My Mother
2. Prince
3. Mr Marylou
4. Sarah Jayne
5. J Dilla




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[2MuchMark]

Elizabeth Warren
Neil deGrasse Tyson
Stephen Hawking
Mark Kelly (Astronaut) and wife Gabrielle Giffords
Rachel Maddow
Scott Prouty (the guy who recorded and released Mitt Romney's "47% speech")

[Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Aristarchus/Pythagoras/Democritus/Socrates etc.
Martin Luther
Malcolm X
Leonardo da Vinci
Nostradamus

[SilentKnight]

Paul Henderson
Steve Jobs
Eddie Van Halen
Bobby Orr
Gene Roddenberry

(since friends/family are excluded, my father would top the list)

[harvey]

Julius Caesar
Leonardo Da Vinci
Robert Del Naja
The Blue Meanie
Mutt

in no particular order

[loreen]

NewNick, I actually do believe Michael just wanted to heal the world

[My Fucking Traffic]

1. Dad
2. Steve Jobs
3. Bill Gates
4. Ben Franklin
5. Zuckerberg

[jgabra62]

1. Slash
2. My mom
3. Steve Jobs
4. Dave Grohl
5. Vince McMahon

[Sarah_Jayne]

Originally Posted by Tofu

Hmmmm...The list is endless, but here are 5 of them:

1. My Mother
2. Prince
3. Mr Marylou
4. Sarah Jayne
5. J Dilla




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Aww, thank you Now it will look weird when I put you? In which case, five other folks.

It is weird for me because I never really look at famous people as admiring them as much as I might enjoy what they do. I find it hard to equate them to the opinions I have of family members because for all I know their public life may be one thing and their private may be full of horrific secrets.

I guess I am going with the first five names that popped into my head:

My grandfather
Marc Anderson
Tony Benn
Martin Gore
Mark Kermode (a handful of British folks will know about him)

[Sarah_Jayne]

Originally Posted by jgabra62

1. Slash
2. My mom
3. Steve Jobs
4. Dave Grohl
5. Vince McMahon

I considered Dave Grohl too because how he has managed to go from the drummer in Nirvana to one of the most important rock stars (very over used term but correct for him) of his generation. Who knew?

[NaughtyRob]

Hard to think of off hand but #1 would be Abraham Lincoln for sure.

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Really Che Guevara?

What did you most admire, his hatred of blacks, His brutality towards gays and musicians with long hair, or his murder and theft from families who's only crime was starting a small business? Perhaps it was his on-the-spot executions of small farmers that refused to give up their land to the revolutionaries?

"To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary...These procedures are an archaic bourgeois detail. This is a revolution! And a revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate. We must create the pedagogy of the The Wall! (El Paredón)" --Ernesto 'Che' Guevara




I can see what you admire in him.... There is just so much to love!!



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He was the ultimate revolutionary - I hadn't read these things about him. I will read more, and decide for myself what's likely to be true and consider the context of the times and who the sources are. The hatred of America is totally understandable, being anti-gay if true in the 1950's, no surprise there, the anti-long hair musician thing sounds odd since he had long hair and a scruffy beard himself.

To call him gutless is ridiculous though, from what I've read he was a brilliant guerilla strategist and fighter.

Cuba was a just revolution, it was what the people wanted. When Kennedy sent the CIA to recruit Cubans to lay the groundwork for the Bay of Pigs invasion guess what happened - Howard Hunt said he couldn't find anybody, everybody he talked to was happy with Castro. In any violent revolution atrocities and purges happen. I'm not condoning any of that.

The lesson to be learned is colonialism/imperialism is wrong and revolution is inevitable.

I'm not pro dictatorships and communism, but when the people of a country i.e. Cuba, Vietnam choose them over what they had before - that should tell you something. You're a right wing zealot pretty much. What was the US offering the people of Cuba as an alternative to Castro/Guevara? Batista.

I understand and would feel the same way as Dead Fidel does - his family paid the worst price. It wouldn't have happened if not for this:

?I believe that there is no country in the world including any and all the countries under colonial domination, where economic colonization, humiliation and exploitation were worse than in Cuba, in part owing to my country's policies during the Batista regime. I approved the proclamation which Fidel Castro made in the Sierra Maestra, when he justifiably called for justice and especially yearned to rid Cuba of corruption. I will even go further: to some extent it is as though Batista was the incarnation of a number of sins on the part of the United States. Now we shall have to pay for those sins. In the matter of the Batista regime, I am in agreement with the first Cuban revolutionaries. That is perfectly clear. ?

? U.S. President John F. Kennedy, to Jean Daniel, October 24, 1963

You reap what you sow. And the lesson never seems to get learned.

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by EroticistFilms

1) Victoria Principal
2) Marvin Gaye
3) Roberto Clemente
4) Jack Kevorkian
5) Alan Grayson

Kevorkian is on my list too.

[Supz]

1. mechanicvirus
2. arock
3. ktj41
4. killswitch
5. fuzebox

[Supz]

sorry dual post. gfy a bit tender today.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

In addition to Mom and Dad, in no particular order:

Siddhārtha Gautama (Buddha)
Mohandas Gandhi
Marin Luther King, Jr
John Lennon
Todd Rundgren/Neil Young/Sting/Bono...

To list only five is quite difficult, since so many people have touched my life and influenced me directly and indirectly (Kahlil Gibran, Dalton Trumbo, Herman Hesse, Abbie Hoffman, Daniel Ellsberg, Helen Caldicott, Rachel Maddow, Hillary Clinton, Hunter S. Thompson, lots of people most of you have never heard of, etc., etc., etc).

Peace and Love,



ADG

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Mutt

4.Che Guevara

Fidel Castro #6?

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by NaughtyRob

Hard to think of off hand but #1 would be Abraham Lincoln for sure.

Let me bet that you saw movie Lincoln

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

yeah, same here, i never understood why so many people worship a murderer

its just "cool" hipster thing, they don;t have much clue about history

[nikki99]

Pitagoras
Aristoteles

[Best-In-BC]

Ben Franklin is and was a joke, tesla rules

[DeadFidel]

Originally Posted by Mutt

He was the ultimate revolutionary - I hadn't read these things about him. I will read more, and decide for myself what's likely to be true and consider the context of the times and who the sources are. The hatred of America is totally understandable, being anti-gay if true in the 1950's, no surprise there, the anti-long hair musician thing sounds odd since he had long hair and a scruffy beard himself.

To call him gutless is ridiculous though, from what I've read he was a brilliant guerilla strategist and fighter.

Cuba was a just revolution, it was what the people wanted. When Kennedy sent the CIA to recruit Cubans to lay the groundwork for the Bay of Pigs invasion guess what happened - Howard Hunt said he couldn't find anybody, everybody he talked to was happy with Castro. In any violent revolution atrocities and purges happen. I'm not condoning any of that.

The lesson to be learned is colonialism/imperialism is wrong and revolution is inevitable.

I'm not pro dictatorships and communism, but when the people of a country i.e. Cuba, Vietnam choose them over what they had before - that should tell you something. You're a right wing zealot pretty much. What was the US offering the people of Cuba as an alternative to Castro/Guevara? Batista.

I understand and would feel the same way as Dead Fidel does - his family paid the worst price. It wouldn't have happened if not for this:

“I believe that there is no country in the world including any and all the countries under colonial domination, where economic colonization, humiliation and exploitation were worse than in Cuba, in part owing to my country's policies during the Batista regime. I approved the proclamation which Fidel Castro made in the Sierra Maestra, when he justifiably called for justice and especially yearned to rid Cuba of corruption. I will even go further: to some extent it is as though Batista was the incarnation of a number of sins on the part of the United States. Now we shall have to pay for those sins. In the matter of the Batista regime, I am in agreement with the first Cuban revolutionaries. That is perfectly clear. ”

— U.S. President John F. Kennedy, to Jean Daniel, October 24, 1963

You reap what you sow. And the lesson never seems to get learned.

Appreciated the response with an open mind.

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by loreen

NewNick, I actually do believe Michael just wanted to heal the world

Ah, thats cute !

[SomeCreep]

Steve Jobs
Warren Buffett
Isaac Newton
Carl Icahn
Ronald Reagan