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Old 03-19-2013, 12:53 PM   #1
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20th century death map

http://www.geenstijl.nl/archives/ima...sdoodszoom.pdf

Interesting graph here, not sure how accurate it is of course.
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Old 03-19-2013, 01:18 PM   #2
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Diarrhea, 226m? Damn ugly way to go
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
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Diarrhea, 226m? Damn ugly way to go
dehydration is a bitch
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What a crappy thing to make fun of :D
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Check out watercure dot com , you'll learn quickly that drinking water pretty much cures everything. I'm a pretty big believer in this.. your body can't be a swamp it has to be like a river

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Check out watercure dot com , you'll learn quickly that drinking water pretty much cures everything. I'm a pretty big believer in this.. your body can't be a swamp it has to be like a river
The Water Cure: Another Example of Self Deception and the ?Lone Genius?

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That?s Dr. Fereydoon Batmanghelidj. His Big Idea was that dehydration is the main cause of disease. It was untenable to begin with, is supported by no evidence, was debunked on Quackwatch several years ago, and Dr. Batmanghelidj died in 2004, so I was surprised to hear it was still being vigorously promoted. But not very surprised. After all, homeopathy is still around.

The Water Cure is another in a long list of alleged miracle cures discovered by ?lone geniuses? who are allegedly persecuted by a resistant medical establishment. These stories follow a pattern, and I think it is worthwhile looking at this prime example to understand something of the psychology of self-deception that is involved.

How It All Started

Dr. Batmanghelidj was imprisoned for political crimes in Tehran?s infamous Evin prison. A number of his fellow prisoners had previously been diagnosed with peptic ulcer disease (PUD). Their symptoms recurred in jail and didn?t respond to Cimetidine and antacids. Dr. Batmanghelidj gave a prisoner with unbearable pain two glasses of water. The pain disappeared completely after 8 minutes.

He treated other PUD patients with remarkable success. One patient was semiconscious from pain but after drinking water he recovered in 20 minutes. (One wonders about the wisdom of making a semiconscious patient drink, since there is a risk of aspiration). Patients were advised to continue drinking 1500cc of water daily for 6 weeks, allowing time for the average ulcer to heal. Symptoms did not recur.

During treatment, urine volume increased and patients had to get up at night to pee. Dr. Batmanghelidj assumed this meant that they were losing sodium so he added salt to their treatment regimen.

It seems logical that drinking water would dilute the stomach acid and provide some temporary relief. In a majority of patients the relief of pain was preceded by eructation of gas. Hmmm? For some reason, Batmanghelidj decided that the real problem was dehydration: dehydration was the sole cause of pain so the pain was relieved by drinking water.

Dr. Batmanghelidj eventually got out of prison and came to the US, where he developed his ideas further and wrote a series of books. His philosophy expanded. Although water alone had worked for his initial patients, he added salt (without any comparison studies to show it improved outcome) and then declared that it should be sea salt to supply trace minerals (again with no comparison studies). He recommends Himalayan or Celtic sea salt (!?) Rather than adding salt to your food or water, you should let it dissolve on your tongue (Why?). If you are urinating within 2 hours of drinking water, you should eat bagels to help keep the water in your body long enough for it to work. This is referred to as ?Bagel Magic.?

He spoke out against alcohol, caffeine, and anything else that might contribute to dehydration. He expanded his thinking to include acidity and immunology:

the causes of most so-called incurable diseases are nothing but symptoms of a weak immune system caused by consuming caffeine, alcohol and/or soda and lack of water and/or salt. They create an acid pH and the more acidic it is, the weaker your immune system, the worse your health becomes and the more difficult it is for your body to repair itself.

He claims the water cure will:

Prevent and reverse premature aging
Eliminate pain, including heartburn, back pain, arthritis, colitis, angina, and migraine headaches
Cure asthma in a few days, naturally and forever
Cure hypertension without diuretics or other medications
Lose weight effortlessly and naturally, without strict dieting
He suggests that water is a no-cost solution to heart disease. But that?s not all! His websites include testimonials from patients who were allegedly cured of:

Terminal Cancer ? Diabetes ? Herniated Discs ? Chronic Pain ? Depression ? Fibromyalgia ? Suicidal Tendencies ? Edema ? Acid Reflux ? Watering Eyes ? Hiccups ? Pet Arthritis ? Asthma ? Syncope ? Migraines ? Chronic Fatigue ? Bronchitis ? Vision ? Raccoon Eyes ? Energy ? Skin Ailments ? Dizziness ? Allergies ? Diabetes ? Eye Edema ? Herpies [sic] ? Weight Loss ? Leukemia

Where?s the Evidence?

The Water Cure website provides a list of scientific documents. Most of them are opinion pieces written by Batmanghelidj himself in a journal he established himself and self-published for three years (Science in Medicine Simplified) because he couldn?t get published in reputable journals.

Batmanghelidj claims to have done a lot of research, but he hasn?t. All he has done is theorize and speculate. He has only two listings in PubMed for articles published in peer-reviewed journals.

The first was published in 1983 in The Journal of Clinical Gastroenterology. It is not a scientific study, but an ?editorial? that describes his experiences with patients in the prison. It is an anecdotal account that doesn?t even rise to the level of case reports or case series. He says he treated 3000 patients with PUD, and his account suggests that about a third of all prisoners had PUD, which seems a bit high even considering the stress of prison.

These diagnoses were clinical diagnoses: in other words, completely unreliable. It is impossible to differentiate peptic ulcers from non-ulcer dyspepsia or other conditions without an endoscopy or an imaging procedure. He says he also successfully treated a few cases of ?appendix pain? (whatever that means) and from that he concludes that ?a site of pain other than epigastric may herald a clinical picture of duodenal ulcer disease.? This leaves me at a loss for words.

The second article, published in Anticancer Research in 1987, is a speculative rumination calling for a paradigm change in thinking about pain. It claims that pain is a signal system denoting free water deficiency of the cell. It is poorly written and doesn?t make sense to me. For instance, he says that this new paradigm does not apply to conditions with local tissue pathology, like cholecystitis. But peptic ulcers are local tissue pathology. Why should the water cure work for ulcers but not for cholecystitis? Bizarrely, he ends his article with an acknowledgement thanking the Almighty for his light and fine detailed guidance.


How Do Intelligent People Go Wrong?

Dr. Batmanghelidj follows a well-beaten path. From chiropractic to eye movement desensitization and reprocessing (EMDR), innumerable non-science-based practitioners have gone down this same slippery slope. Here is the typical progression from initial self-deception to ?lone genius? woomeister status:

He witnesses an unexpected improvement after a treatment.
He assumes the treatment caused the improvement.
He does not test this assumption or try to rule out other possible explanations.
He proceeds to treat many other patients the same way, with apparent success, and allows confirmation bias to bolster his conviction.
His ego is boosted by grateful patients and by the conviction that he has special knowledge.
He extends the treatment to patients with other diagnoses.
He exercises his imagination and speculates about a possible physiological mechanism by which the treatment might work.
He generalizes, often claiming to have found the ?one cause of all disease.?
He tries to convince scientists by describing his anecdotal experiences.
The scientists refuse to accept his untenable explanations or to publish his scientifically unacceptable papers.
He accuses the scientific establishment of persecuting him and suppressing knowledge that would undermine the status quo and help many patients.
He plays the lone genius card, often comparing himself to Galileo or Semmelweis.
He writes books and sells things.
For Batmanghelidj the epiphany was a glass of water that apparently relieved a stomach pain. For D. D. Palmer (chiropractic) it was a back adjustment that apparently restored a deaf janitor?s hearing. For Samuel Hahnemann (homeopathy) it was the supposedly malaria-like symptoms he experienced after taking an anti-malaria drug. For Francine Shapiro (EMDR) it was the observation during a walk in a park that moving her eyes seemed to reduce the stress of disturbing memories. For Edward Bach (Bach Flower Remedies), a walk in the country revealed his intuitive psychic connection to various plants.

The initial error was the same in all cases: they failed to consider the possibility that they might be wrong. They failed to use the scientific method to test their observations. The rest of the sequence followed naturally from human psychology. The Water Cure is nonsense, but its story provides a cautionary tale. The most important thing a scientist can say is ?I could be wrong.?




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I realize he has his critics, but who doesn't. The world can go on thinking alcohol and cigarettes are safer than cannabis and that drinking soda is the same as water while they all get fat. I read the book. You can look at amazon and read what the reviews say. Whether or not earth has intelligent life or not is a mystery, but it does have water, and water is needed for life. Just because he passed away doesn't mean he was wrong. He didn't claim to say water would make him live forever. Everything I read in the book makes sense. Why is the world so fat? Why in the past 50 years has the US gone from 1 percent obese to 40 percent obese. Keep drinking coke.
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12.5million HIV/AIDS - WHO says 35 million...

Could be old data I suppose - Or they are pushing a different political agenda...
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12.5million HIV/AIDS - WHO says 35 million...

Could be old data I suppose - Or they are pushing a different political agenda...
They should be pushing to actually locate the virus
Also the 124 mil for ideology seems low.
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I wish they put shark attacks on there.
People go on and on about them... And the dot for them would be microscopic compared to the others on the info graphic...
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I wish they put shark attacks on there.
People go on and on about them... And the dot for them would be microscopic compared to the others on the info graphic...
Actually, you couldn't make a pixel small enough for that. On average about 5 people a year world wide are killed by sharks. In comparison about 8 people per year are killed in the US alone by vending machines falling on them....


...sharks get a hideously undeserved bad rap.




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Actually, you couldn't make a pixel small enough for that. On average about 5 people a year world wide are killed by sharks. In comparison about 8 people per year are killed in the US alone by vending machines falling on them....


...sharks get a hideously undeserved bad rap.




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The shark thing is a strange one - Its instinct I suppose.

I have seen some great stats to demonstrate how we overestimate how dangerous they are.

I wish I could find the site - Its things like there are X number of people who strangle themselves getting dressed in the morning - Its really crazy stuff....
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