Mexican vigilantes seize town, arrest police

[brassmonkey]

looks like their tired of all the killing
ACAPULCO, Mexico (AP) ? Hundreds of armed vigilantes have taken control of a town on a major highway in the Pacific coast state of Guerrero, arresting local police officers and searching homes after a vigilante leader was killed. Several opened fire on a car of Mexican tourists headed to the beach for Easter week.

Members of the area's self-described "community police" say more than 1,500 members of the force were stopping traffic Wednesday at improvised checkpoints in the town of Tierra Colorado, which sits on the highway connecting Mexico City to Acapulco. They arrested 12 police and the former director of public security in the town after a leader of the state's vigilante movement was slain on Monday.

A tourist heading to the beach with relatives was slightly wounded Tuesday after they refused to stop at a roadblock and vigilantes fired shots at their car, officials said. The vigilantes accuse the ex-security director of participating in the killing of vigilante leader Guadalupe Quinones Carbajal, 28, on behalf of local organized crime groups and dumping his body in a nearby town on Monday. They reported seizing several high-powered rifles from his car, and vigilantes were seen toting a number of sophisticated assault rifles on Wednesday, although it was not clear if all had been taken from the ex-security director's car.

"We have besieged the municipality, because here criminals operate with impunity in broad daylight, in view of municipal authorities. We have detained the director of public security because he is involved with criminals and he knows who killed our commander," said Bruno Placido Valerio, a spokesman for the vigilante group.

Placido said vigilantes had searched a number of homes in the town and seized drugs from some. They turned over the ex-security director and police officers to state prosecutors, who agreed to investigate their alleged ties to organized crime.

The growing movement of "self-defense" vigilante groups has seen masked townspeople throw up checkpoints in several parts of southern and western Mexico, stopping passing motorists to search for weapons or people whose names are on hand-written lists of "suspects" wanted for crimes like theft and extortion.

The vigilantes have opened fire before on motorists who refused to stop, slightly wounding a pair of tourists from Mexico City visiting a local beach in early February. The groups say they are fighting violence, kidnappings and extortions carried out by drug cartels, but concerns have surfaced that the vigilantes may be violating the law, the human rights of people they detain, or even cooperating with criminals in some cases.

Sensitive over their lack of ability to enforce public safety in rural areas, official have largely tolerated vigilante groups.

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[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

looks like their tired of all the killing
ACAPULCO, Mexico (AP) ? Hundreds of armed vigilantes have taken control of a town on a major highway in the Pacific coast state of Guerrero, arresting local police officers and searching homes after a vigilante leader was killed. Several opened fire on a car of Mexican tourists headed to the beach for Easter week.

Members of the area's self-described "community police" say more than 1,500 members of the force were stopping traffic Wednesday at improvised checkpoints in the town of Tierra Colorado, which sits on the highway connecting Mexico City to Acapulco. They arrested 12 police and the former director of public security in the town after a leader of the state's vigilante movement was slain on Monday.

A tourist heading to the beach with relatives was slightly wounded Tuesday after they refused to stop at a roadblock and vigilantes fired shots at their car, officials said. The vigilantes accuse the ex-security director of participating in the killing of vigilante leader Guadalupe Quinones Carbajal, 28, on behalf of local organized crime groups and dumping his body in a nearby town on Monday. They reported seizing several high-powered rifles from his car, and vigilantes were seen toting a number of sophisticated assault rifles on Wednesday, although it was not clear if all had been taken from the ex-security director's car.

"We have besieged the municipality, because here criminals operate with impunity in broad daylight, in view of municipal authorities. We have detained the director of public security because he is involved with criminals and he knows who killed our commander," said Bruno Placido Valerio, a spokesman for the vigilante group.

Placido said vigilantes had searched a number of homes in the town and seized drugs from some. They turned over the ex-security director and police officers to state prosecutors, who agreed to investigate their alleged ties to organized crime.

The growing movement of "self-defense" vigilante groups has seen masked townspeople throw up checkpoints in several parts of southern and western Mexico, stopping passing motorists to search for weapons or people whose names are on hand-written lists of "suspects" wanted for crimes like theft and extortion.

The vigilantes have opened fire before on motorists who refused to stop, slightly wounding a pair of tourists from Mexico City visiting a local beach in early February. The groups say they are fighting violence, kidnappings and extortions carried out by drug cartels, but concerns have surfaced that the vigilantes may be violating the law, the human rights of people they detain, or even cooperating with criminals in some cases.

Sensitive over their lack of ability to enforce public safety in rural areas, official have largely tolerated vigilante groups.

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that's pretty exciting...I just can't wait until more Mexicans get voted into office here in socal and hopefully more Mexicans will sneak over the border, get everything free and voting rights

[~Ray]

civil war anyone?

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by ~Ray

civil war anyone?

no kidding.. curious how tptb handle that

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by ~Ray

civil war anyone?

well the cartels are in the government

[alias]

Maybe it is time somebody does something to stop the corruption, good for them.

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by alias

Maybe it is time somebody does something to stop the corruption, good for them.

Hell yeah! it was inevitable!

[seeric]

I can't see how this is good for Acapulco at all.

They're upset that the tourists are being harassed, raped, killed, robbed, etc.

Yet the vigilante groups are shooting at tourists that are scared?

As a Southern Californian, and a guy who's been to many, many parts of Mexico over 100 times at least in the last 20 years, I can tell you for a fact there's no way I'd go to Mexico again until they get their shit together.

Tourism is ALL Mexico has, less their exports to the USA for cash flow. It's big money.

Someone better get that shit under control fast or Acapulco and every other tourist destination is going to be a ghost town.

I can remember being in Cabo and Puerto Vallarta about 2 years ago and the locals in both of those tourist towns are hurting. PV lost most of the cruise ship dockings thanks to Obama and the US Government during some of that turmoil back then. Cabo is hurting as well.

Seems like it's all imploding on itself tourism wise. It's a shame. It's such a great place to vacation.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by seeric

I can't see how this is good for Acapulco at all.

They're upset that the tourists are being harassed, raped, killed, robbed, etc.

Yet the vigilante groups are shooting at tourists that are scared?

As a Southern Californian, and a guy who's been to many, many parts of Mexico over 100 times at least in the last 20 years, I can tell you for a fact there's no way I'd go to Mexico again until they get their shit together.

Tourism is ALL Mexico has, less their exports to the USA for cash flow. It's big money.

Someone better get that shit under control fast or Acapulco and every other tourist destination is going to be a ghost town.

I can remember being in Cabo and Puerto Vallarta about 2 years ago and the locals in both of those tourist towns are hurting. PV lost most of the cruise ship dockings thanks to Obama and the US Government during some of that turmoil back then. Cabo is hurting as well.

Seems like it's all imploding on itself tourism wise. It's a shame. It's such a great place to vacation.

The ONLY thing floating the economy in Mexico right now is the cartels. Thats the reason that they wont stop the crime. While the rest of the world has suffered major economy hits, Mexico has had a lesser hit.

[klinton]

watch the movie El. Narco

[Rochard]

When you can no longer trust the police, you are seriously fucked. I would have left.

[Robbie]

Change the drug laws in the U.S. and the crime in Mexico would be back down again.
Everything happening there is because we are making Mexicans rich (like the Columbians used to be) with our insane "war on drugs".
That much money at stake and there is gonna be violence.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Rochard

When you can no longer trust the police, you are seriously fucked. I would have left.

man a cop in mesa,Az was arrested last week. some kind of images on his comp that had kids in them.

[CyberHustler]

Shit got realer

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by pornguy

The ONLY thing floating the economy in Mexico right now is the cartels. Thats the reason that they wont stop the crime. While the rest of the world has suffered major economy hits, Mexico has had a lesser hit.

Tell that to Carlos Slim.

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

that's pretty exciting...I just can't wait until more Mexicans get voted into office here in socal and hopefully more Mexicans will sneak over the border, get everything free and voting rights

The Alarcons and Bell Council are the role models. Welfare and Green Cards for Everybody! Yay! Where's my pesos bitch?!

Sad world we are in. Harrison Ford is right about one thing. Earth doesn't need humans.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Rochard

When you can no longer trust the police, you are seriously fucked. I would have left.

[crockett]

Mexico is just fucked and doesn't seem to be getting any better any time soon. I'm planning a road trip in the next few months and I really wanted to head down into Mexico on it but there is no fucking way I'm going there til they get their shit in order.

[tokmansta]

crazy shit

[BareBacked]

Originally Posted by seeric

I can't see how this is good for Acapulco at all.


I can tell you for a fact there's no way I'd go to Mexico again until they get their shit together.

Thank you. Please stay in America

[MrMaxwell]

Originally Posted by Rochard

When you can no longer trust the police, you are seriously fucked. I would have left.

Seriously? I got beaten up in Florida by an Officer who turned around and charged ME with assault.. shit like that is happening more and more every day... most of them are good cops, sure, but to say that it's all rainbows and butterflies over here is a little misleading.

[MrMaxwell]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Change the drug laws in the U.S. and the crime in Mexico would be back down again.
Everything happening there is because we are making Mexicans rich (like the Columbians used to be) with our insane "war on drugs".
That much money at stake and there is gonna be violence.

That could not BE more true.

[fatfoo]

This is an example of a huge political movement when lots of people come together to do something major. When they start firing shots is when things get very serious. Small bullets could be unpredictable? Who will get shot or not? There are different chances of survival in these situations. They seized rifles ? that sounds serious. ?Vigilantes had searched a number of homes in the town and seized drugs from some? ? sounds like an effort. Guns are dangerous.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

man a cop in mesa,Az was arrested last week. some kind of images on his comp that had kids in them.

Oh I'm sure not all cops are clean. But I don't live in fear of my police locally, that's for sure.

[dynastoned]

good for them. somebody has to do something...

[Bake]

Legalise drugs and most of the problem will vanish

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Bake

Legalise drugs and most of the problem will vanish

bullshit!! what about the strung out junkies that dont have money? in asia they kill drug users and dealers

[Bake]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

bullshit!! what about the strung out junkies that dont have money? in asia they kill drug users and dealers

Maybe you can spend a hour to understand the problem from this perceptive

https://youtube.com/watch?v=i2vqpNT1kV4

[CaptainHowdy]

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Bake

Maybe you can spend a hour to understand the problem from this perceptive

https://youtube.com/watch?v=i2vqpNT1kV4

i dont need a video to understand. who's going to pay the healthcare for the junkies who hit rock bottom and can't hold a job? you?

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

i dont need a video to understand. who's going to pay the healthcare for the junkies who hit rock bottom and can't hold a job? you?

What do junkies (which by the way...most of them are prescription pill addicts these days) have to do with violence created by drug cartels in Mexico?

Our drug laws are the reason that those cartel leaders are BILLIONAIRES and the reason for the violence.

And you don't have to be a "junkie" to not be able to get a job in 2013 in the good ol' U.S.A.
The economy has taken care of that for you. lol

[Legendary Samir - BANNED FOR LIFE]

We need community police in London to get rid of jobless african and arab "refugee" idiots. True cancer to this town.

[Bake]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

i dont need a video to understand. who's going to pay the healthcare for the junkies who hit rock bottom and can't hold a job? you?

Maybe you could use the money the Guberment spends on keeping over 1 million people in jail or the billions they spend on the war on drugs per year.

[Mike Honcho]

In 10 years time, this man will rule the entire US/Mexican border, with an iron first. Picture Saddam pre and post Gulf War. The violence will see a gradual decrease as El Chapo and the Sinaloa Cartel increase their control of the border.

[Supz]

The Donald thinks that stupid.

[mikesinner]

Originally Posted by Bake

Maybe you could use the money the Guberment spends on keeping over 1 million people in jail or the billions they spend on the war on drugs per year.

USA is %5 of the world population but has %25 of the worlds criminals.