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Old 03-24-2013, 02:52 PM   #1
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CIA trains and spies for Syrian rebels ? report


"Some Syrian rebel groups get training and intelligence straight from CIA officers, US officials told media. The helping hand is meant to bolster the secular opposition against both governmental troops and Islamist forces.

The CIA’s increased involvement in Syria is part America’s greater engagement in the war-torn country, according to The Wall Street Journal. The spy agency has selected some small rebel units from the Free Syrian Army to receive combat training and fresh intel they can act upon, the newspaper says, citing unnamed US officials and rebel commanders.

The training is provided by the CIA, working together with British, French and Jordanian intelligence agencies. The rebels are taught to use various kinds of arms, including anti-tank weapons. They are also schooled in urban combat tactics and counterintelligence tactics.

The experience will supposedly help them stand against the professional Syrian army, which scores victories against the armed opposition thanks to both more advanced weapons and better organization.

The rebels are also receiving fresh intelligence collected by the CIA, which they can act upon at short notice. The extent of the info provided remains in secret, but the US can potentially provide what they gather trough satellite and signal surveillance as well as intelligence coming through exchanges with Israeli and Jordanian agencies.

The CIA is said to keep this part of dealing with the rebels limited, withholding sensitive types of information, like the suspected locations of Syrian chemical weapons stockpiles.

The US spy agency was previously working in Turkey vetting rebel groups for receiving arms shipments from Gulf monarchies. The effort aimed at preventing the weapons from being funneled to Islamists had mixed results, the WSJ says. The CIA also works with Iraqi counterterrorism units to counter the flow of Islamist militants across the border to Syria.

The White House has been reluctant to send combat-worthy equipment to Syrian rebels, despite calls inside the US and from Gulf and some European countries to do so. It is concerned that those would end up in the hand of the more powerful Al-Qaeda-linked terrorist force, the Nusra Front. Unlike arms, the intelligence from CIA is operationally useful for a short period of time and would not be traded for years to come, a US official explained.

Washington’s concern over the growing influence of the Nusra Front was reiterated on Friday by President Barack Obama, as he was visiting Jordan as part of his Middle Eastern tour.

“I am very concerned about Syria becoming an enclave for extremism because extremists thrive in chaos, they thrive in failed states, they thrive in power vacuums,” Obama said after meeting Jordan’s King Abdullah II.

The Nusra Front is believed to be responsible for the bloodiest bombings in Syria over the past months. The latest such attack was the assassination of Mohammad Buti and influential Sunni preacher and supporter of the Syrian government. Buti was killed on Thursday along with some 50 others when a car bomb was detonated near a Damascus mosque.

The US is reportedly gathering intelligence on Nusra Front commanders and fighters for a possible campaign of targeted drone killing similar to those the CIA wages in Pakistan and Yemen and the Pentagon in Afghanistan."

http://rt.com/news/cia-intelligence-syrian-rebels-704/
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About time. Now, we need to do the "no fly zone" and help the Syrian peeps!
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"Some Syrian rebel groups get training and intelligence straight from CIA officers, US officials told media. The helping hand is meant to bolster the secular opposition against both governmental troops and Islamist forces.

The CIA?s increased involvement in Syria is part America?s greater engagement in the war-torn country, according to The Wall Street Journal. The spy agency has selected some small rebel units from the Free Syrian Army to receive combat training and fresh intel they can act upon, the newspaper says, citing unnamed US officials and rebel commanders.

The training is provided by the CIA, working together with British, French and Jordanian intelligence agencies. The rebels are taught to use various kinds of arms, including anti-tank weapons. They are also schooled in urban combat tactics and counterintelligence tactics.

The experience will supposedly help them stand against the professional Syrian army, which scores victories against the armed opposition thanks to both more advanced weapons and better organization.

The rebels are also receiving fresh intelligence collected by the CIA, which they can act upon at short notice. The extent of the info provided remains in secret, but the US can potentially provide what they gather trough satellite and signal surveillance as well as intelligence coming through exchanges with Israeli and Jordanian agencies.

The CIA is said to keep this part of dealing with the rebels limited, withholding sensitive types of information, like the suspected locations of Syrian chemical weapons stockpiles.

The US spy agency was previously working in Turkey vetting rebel groups for receiving arms shipments from Gulf monarchies. The effort aimed at preventing the weapons from being funneled to Islamists had mixed results, the WSJ says. The CIA also works with Iraqi counterterrorism units to counter the flow of Islamist militants across the border to Syria.

The White House has been reluctant to send combat-worthy equipment to Syrian rebels, despite calls inside the US and from Gulf and some European countries to do so. It is concerned that those would end up in the hand of the more powerful Al-Qaeda-linked terrorist force, the Nusra Front. Unlike arms, the intelligence from CIA is operationally useful for a short period of time and would not be traded for years to come, a US official explained.

Washington?s concern over the growing influence of the Nusra Front was reiterated on Friday by President Barack Obama, as he was visiting Jordan as part of his Middle Eastern tour.

?I am very concerned about Syria becoming an enclave for extremism because extremists thrive in chaos, they thrive in failed states, they thrive in power vacuums,? Obama said after meeting Jordan?s King Abdullah II.

The Nusra Front is believed to be responsible for the bloodiest bombings in Syria over the past months. The latest such attack was the assassination of Mohammad Buti and influential Sunni preacher and supporter of the Syrian government. Buti was killed on Thursday along with some 50 others when a car bomb was detonated near a Damascus mosque.

The US is reportedly gathering intelligence on Nusra Front commanders and fighters for a possible campaign of targeted drone killing similar to those the CIA wages in Pakistan and Yemen and the Pentagon in Afghanistan."

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Americans never learn ...

They repeat over and over the same cycles and then wonder why people attack their '' towers '' ...
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Americans never learn ...

They repeat over and over the same cycles and then wonder why people attack their '' towers '' ...
You are 100% correct!

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So some Russian news site (which just happens to have a banner link to an article on Gitmo) posts a story without citing any proof (other than "US officials") and we are expected to believe it?

There's no doubt in my mind that the CIA is working in Syria. (And Iran, Iraq, Russia, Israel, Palestine, Lebanon, etc etc etc) But that article is just nonsense.
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So some Russian news site (which just happens to have a banner link to an article on Gitmo) posts a story without citing any proof (other than "US officials") and we are expected to believe it?

There's no doubt in my mind that the CIA is working in Syria. (And Iran, Iraq, Russia, Israel, Palestine, Lebanon, etc etc etc) But that article is just nonsense.
Here from a NA that is on the western side:

West training Syrian rebels in Jordan
Exclusive: UK and French instructors involved in US-led effort to strengthen secular elements in Syria's opposition, say sources

.. And USA is feeding info / arms to the turks, passing it over

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...-rebels-jordan

This is nothing surprising for the USA.. in fact, if they were not, that would be NEWS ...
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Americans never learn ...

They repeat over and over the same cycles and then wonder why people attack their '' towers '' ...
I would think that it is America's enemies that do not learn as we have killed our enemies by the millions at a ratio of up to a thousand to one. BTW...I do not know a single person that wonders why the towers were attacked.
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Americans never learn ...

They repeat over and over the same cycles and then wonder why people attack their '' towers '' ...
pretty sure you should reserve your comment to what the government, in particular, the cia does, not the American people.
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Here from a NA that is on the western side:

West training Syrian rebels in Jordan
Exclusive: UK and French instructors involved in US-led effort to strengthen secular elements in Syria's opposition, say sources

.. And USA is feeding info / arms to the turks, passing it over

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...-rebels-jordan

This is nothing surprising for the USA.. in fact, if they were not, that would be NEWS ...
you do realize that every country on th eplanet with political skin in the game is helping one side or the other in this fracas?
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“I am very concerned about Syria becoming an enclave for extremism because extremists thrive in chaos, they thrive in failed states, they thrive in power vacuums,” Obama said after meeting Jordan’s King Abdullah II.
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Here from a NA that is on the western side:

West training Syrian rebels in Jordan
Exclusive: UK and French instructors involved in US-led effort to strengthen secular elements in Syria's opposition, say sources

.. And USA is feeding info / arms to the turks, passing it over

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...-rebels-jordan

This is nothing surprising for the USA.. in fact, if they were not, that would be NEWS ...
That says "UK and French instructors", not US forces.

Like I said, I wouldn't be surprised at all if US had boots on the ground there. I'm just questioning the source. A website I've never heard of quoting sources no one can track down that also has links to articles about gitmo on the front page is suspect.
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Americans never learn ...

They repeat over and over the same cycles and then wonder why people attack their '' towers '' ...
From the same guy that complains when we don't get involved.
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From the same guy that complains when we don't get involved.
you are senile ... Show me one post where I say the USA should get involved in Syria ... and you can add Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia and so on ...

I complain you guys always stick your noses everywhere, making a mess for all of us , not just the USA...

I did say I would not care if you did that inside your borders, screwing up your country ... oups, I think you already did .
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These rebels have been getting trained for years by the CIA in preparation for the attacks on Libya, Syria and next Lebanon. The leader of the 'Rebels' in Libya had been living nextdoor to CIA headquarters for over a decade.

As long as they have brown skin the people in the West will believe the propaganda that the people are rising up against their leaders.
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They repeat over and over the same cycles and then wonder why people attack their '' towers '' ...
Well said. I still can't get why the US government repeats the same mistake again and again

Like some kind of national masochistic sports...
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Well said. I still can't get why the US government repeats the same mistake again and again

Like some kind of national masochistic sports...
The Military-Industrial Complex needs to make money, they need war. Also it's about reshaping the world, sure they always have some propaganda to justify it and they fund terrorism to get their foot in the door, but ultimately the plan is to reshape the world we live in. War is the best known tool to bring about change; in peacetime change is incredibly different

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That must be why the Arab League decided to allow members to fund Syrian rebels.
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So some Russian news site (which just happens to have a banner link to an article on Gitmo) posts a story without citing any proof (other than "US officials") and we are expected to believe it?

There's no doubt in my mind that the CIA is working in Syria. (And Iran, Iraq, Russia, Israel, Palestine, Lebanon, etc etc etc) But that article is just nonsense.
Doh - I wasn't concentrating and thought I was on Reuters - I thought it had a strange Russian bias...
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That must be why the Arab League decided to allow members to fund Syrian rebels.
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So some Russian news site (which just happens to have a banner link to an article on Gitmo) posts a story without citing any proof (other than "US officials") and we are expected to believe it?

There's no doubt in my mind that the CIA is working in Syria. (And Iran, Iraq, Russia, Israel, Palestine, Lebanon, etc etc etc) But that article is just nonsense.
so you wrote that the article was nonsense, rather than trying to find a 'trusted source' example?
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About time. Now, we need to do the "no fly zone" and help the Syrian peeps!
People that fight for Assad are not people !
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About time. Now, we need to do the "no fly zone" and help the Syrian peeps!
won't happen with russian troops there. their doing a bin laden indirect war
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It's not a mistake, it's got nothing to do with reshaping the world, it's got nothing to do with natural resources it's pure and simple chewing of military budget. There are poor american families that pay their taxes to a government that is infiltrated by bomb salesmen and their lobbyists and then there are stupid individuals in USA who think that they have enemies everywhere and happy with their government throwing away their money on things that they don't need.
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At the very least, we could be giving Syria a no fly zone.

By the way, these "rebels" being trained now will someday knock down the Freedom Tower at ground zero after they get their shit together.
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you cant do that with a super power in the country!
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