CISPA passes U.S. House: Death of the Fourth Amendment? - GoFuckYourself.com

wehateporn · 04-21-2013, 01:58 PM

http://www.zdnet.com/cispa-passes-u-...nt-7000014205/

"The controversial Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA) just passed the U.S. House, and will now head to the upper Senate chamber for further deliberation.

Rinse and repeat. This isn't the first time that this has happened, but it still poses a major threat to Fourth Amendment rights, according to civil liberties campaigners."

"The Bill was passed 288-127 in favor of the Bill after two days of debate and discussion on the House floor. Only 18 members of the House abstained from the vote.

CISPA will allow private sector firms to search personal and sensitive user data of ordinary U.S. residents to identify "threat information," which can then be shared with other opt-in firms and the U.S. government ? without the need for a court-ordered warrant.

This means a company like Facebook, Twitter, Google, or any other technology or telecoms company, including your cell service provider, would be legally able to hand over vast amounts of data to the U.S. government and its law enforcement ? for whatever purpose it deems necessary ? and face no legal reprisals.

And despite numerous amendments and changes, there are no requirements that personal data, such as health records or banking information, should be anonymized before sharing it with the government.

It's hoped that the data can be used in real time to stop cyberattacks in their tracks, or even trace back to the source of the attack. Because cyberattacks nowadays as weapons in the virtual battlefield could lead to all-out war.

The Bill will also amend the National Security Act to allow U.S. intelligence services to hand over classified information to entities and people that do not have security clearance. The idea is that this will be used in order to help companies fight back against and prevent cyberattacks on their systems in the future.

A great deal of controversy has stirred around this Bill. Having amendments passed in a veil of secrecy did not help matters, either.

To make things even more complicated, a new amendment, voted down by lawmakers on Wednesday in the U.S. House, would have allowed U.S. companies to keep their privacy policies intact and their promises valid, including terms of service, legally enforceable in the future.

It means that the many who signed up to such services under terms that promised their data would not be shared with anyone ? unless a subpoena or court order was served ? would no longer have such rights going forward.

Though it would have weakened CISPA's overall weight, now it gives additional legal immunity to companies sharing their customer data. Rep. Jared Polis (D-CO), in speaking to ZDNet's sister site CNET, said that such firms are "completely exonerated from any risk of liability."

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Captain Kawaii · 04-21-2013, 02:44 PM

Anonymous has called for an internet blackout tomorrow. People worry about freedoms and privacy. Dwindling at best, no exist at worst.

wehateporn · 04-21-2013, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

Anonymous has called for an internet blackout tomorrow. People worry about freedoms and privacy. Dwindling at best, no exist at worst.

Fat Panda · 04-21-2013, 03:18 PM

the 4th amendment was dead a long time ago

pornguy · 04-21-2013, 04:54 PM

any idea on how they got this passed??

pornmasta · 04-21-2013, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

any idea on how they got this passed??

2 (cheap) terrorists just now... what a coincidence...

wehateporn · 04-21-2013, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta

2 (cheap) terrorists just now... what a coincidence...

Just a coincidence for sure

ChanceIt · 04-21-2013, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

any idea on how they got this passed??

bait and switch

kane · 04-21-2013, 07:14 PM

It may not pass the house and and Obama has said he will veto it in its current form so all is not lost yet, but it is troubling that it can pass that easily.

However, to me this is the funnies part of this whole thing.

Here is the breakdown of the votes by part.

Republicans: 206 for 28 against
Democrats: 42 for 140 against

47 of 66 house tea party caucus members voted for it.

I hope I never EVER see anyone try to say that the republican party is the party of less government, but I know for sure in the next election that is exactly how they will bill themselves and there are plenty of people who will buy it.

AdultPornMasta · 04-21-2013, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

http://www.zdnet.com/cispa-passes-u-...nt-7000014205/

"The controversial Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA) just passed the U.S. House, and will now head to the upper Senate chamber for further deliberation.

Rinse and repeat. This isn't the first time that this has happened, but it still poses a major threat to Fourth Amendment rights, according to civil liberties campaigners."

"The Bill was passed 288-127 in favor of the Bill after two days of debate and discussion on the House floor. Only 18 members of the House abstained from the vote.

CISPA will allow private sector firms to search personal and sensitive user data of ordinary U.S. residents to identify "threat information," which can then be shared with other opt-in firms and the U.S. government ? without the need for a court-ordered warrant.

This means a company like Facebook, Twitter, Google, or any other technology or telecoms company, including your cell service provider, would be legally able to hand over vast amounts of data to the U.S. government and its law enforcement ? for whatever purpose it deems necessary ? and face no legal reprisals.

And despite numerous amendments and changes, there are no requirements that personal data, such as health records or banking information, should be anonymized before sharing it with the government.

It's hoped that the data can be used in real time to stop cyberattacks in their tracks, or even trace back to the source of the attack. Because cyberattacks nowadays as weapons in the virtual battlefield could lead to all-out war.

The Bill will also amend the National Security Act to allow U.S. intelligence services to hand over classified information to entities and people that do not have security clearance. The idea is that this will be used in order to help companies fight back against and prevent cyberattacks on their systems in the future.

A great deal of controversy has stirred around this Bill. Having amendments passed in a veil of secrecy did not help matters, either.

To make things even more complicated, a new amendment, voted down by lawmakers on Wednesday in the U.S. House, would have allowed U.S. companies to keep their privacy policies intact and their promises valid, including terms of service, legally enforceable in the future.

It means that the many who signed up to such services under terms that promised their data would not be shared with anyone ? unless a subpoena or court order was served ? would no longer have such rights going forward.

Though it would have weakened CISPA's overall weight, now it gives additional legal immunity to companies sharing their customer data. Rep. Jared Polis (D-CO), in speaking to ZDNet's sister site CNET, said that such firms are "completely exonerated from any risk of liability."

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Obama has said that he will veto this bill.

If he does it will be the first time the cocksucker has told the truth since coming into office.

Rochard · 04-21-2013, 09:25 PM

I'm fine with this. If you spend too much time on jihad sites, well, maybe someone should start asking questions.

Frank21 · 04-21-2013, 09:44 PM

Not many amendment left anymore.
Time to admit that usa has became a dictatorship just like USSR and EUSSR.
too bad USA used to be a place to look up to and use as example. These days USA is just an other third world country on the face of the earth.

purecane · 04-22-2013, 05:44 AM

leave the politicians alone, their job is to make laws. land of the free.....

tony286 · 04-22-2013, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

I'm fine with this. If you spend too much time on jihad sites, well, maybe someone should start asking questions.

Also people think they arent doing it already. want privacy go back to a landline,kill the internet connection, pay for everything with cash. Living in a digital world has many wonderful conveniences but what you give up for it is privacy. Be it companies tracking you or governments.

potter · 04-22-2013, 06:58 AM

I'd doubt this would be seen by the SCOTUS as an invasion of privacy and a violation of the 4th amendment.

Technically, the 4th doesn't protect what you do on the internet. If you want information on your computer private, don't connect it to the internet. If you want your whereabouts and history on the internet secure and private, then it's really up to you to do so.

There isn't a bubble of protection granted to you by the 4th for anything you do anywhere you go. If you traverse the internet, then you're willingly putting that information into public domain.

sperbonzo · 04-22-2013, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank21

Not many amendment left anymore.
Time to admit that usa has became a dictatorship just like USSR and EUSSR.
too bad USA used to be a place to look up to and use as example. These days USA is just an other third world country on the face of the earth.

QFT.... very sad really...

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tony286 · 04-22-2013, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

QFT.... very sad really...

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Really? You guys should go live under a real dictatorship to get a real frame of reference.

sperbonzo · 04-22-2013, 08:07 AM

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04-21-2013, 01:58 PM	#1
wehateporn Promoting Debate on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 27,173	CISPA passes U.S. House: Death of the Fourth Amendment? http://www.zdnet.com/cispa-passes-u-...nt-7000014205/ "The controversial Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA) just passed the U.S. House, and will now head to the upper Senate chamber for further deliberation. Rinse and repeat. This isn't the first time that this has happened, but it still poses a major threat to Fourth Amendment rights, according to civil liberties campaigners." "The Bill was passed 288-127 in favor of the Bill after two days of debate and discussion on the House floor. Only 18 members of the House abstained from the vote. CISPA will allow private sector firms to search personal and sensitive user data of ordinary U.S. residents to identify "threat information," which can then be shared with other opt-in firms and the U.S. government ? without the need for a court-ordered warrant. This means a company like Facebook, Twitter, Google, or any other technology or telecoms company, including your cell service provider, would be legally able to hand over vast amounts of data to the U.S. government and its law enforcement ? for whatever purpose it deems necessary ? and face no legal reprisals. And despite numerous amendments and changes, there are no requirements that personal data, such as health records or banking information, should be anonymized before sharing it with the government. It's hoped that the data can be used in real time to stop cyberattacks in their tracks, or even trace back to the source of the attack. Because cyberattacks nowadays as weapons in the virtual battlefield could lead to all-out war. The Bill will also amend the National Security Act to allow U.S. intelligence services to hand over classified information to entities and people that do not have security clearance. The idea is that this will be used in order to help companies fight back against and prevent cyberattacks on their systems in the future. A great deal of controversy has stirred around this Bill. Having amendments passed in a veil of secrecy did not help matters, either. To make things even more complicated, a new amendment, voted down by lawmakers on Wednesday in the U.S. House, would have allowed U.S. companies to keep their privacy policies intact and their promises valid, including terms of service, legally enforceable in the future. It means that the many who signed up to such services under terms that promised their data would not be shared with anyone ? unless a subpoena or court order was served ? would no longer have such rights going forward. Though it would have weakened CISPA's overall weight, now it gives additional legal immunity to companies sharing their customer data. Rep. Jared Polis (D-CO), in speaking to ZDNet's sister site CNET, said that such firms are "completely exonerated from any risk of liability." Continued http://www.zdnet.com/cispa-passes-u-...nt-7000014205/ __________________ Sexy Girls Teasing

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04-21-2013, 02:44 PM	#2
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04-21-2013, 03:18 PM	#4
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kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	It may not pass the house and and Obama has said he will veto it in its current form so all is not lost yet, but it is troubling that it can pass that easily. However, to me this is the funnies part of this whole thing. Here is the breakdown of the votes by part. Republicans: 206 for 28 against Democrats: 42 for 140 against 47 of 66 house tea party caucus members voted for it. I hope I never EVER see anyone try to say that the republican party is the party of less government, but I know for sure in the next election that is exactly how they will bill themselves and there are plenty of people who will buy it.

04-22-2013, 06:58 AM	#15
potter Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Denver Posts: 6,559	I'd doubt this would be seen by the SCOTUS as an invasion of privacy and a violation of the 4th amendment. Technically, the 4th doesn't protect what you do on the internet. If you want information on your computer private, don't connect it to the internet. If you want your whereabouts and history on the internet secure and private, then it's really up to you to do so. There isn't a bubble of protection granted to you by the 4th for anything you do anywhere you go. If you traverse the internet, then you're willingly putting that information into public domain. __________________

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