HIV Vaccine Infects 41 Volunteers

[wehateporn]

Seems like a vaccine which some people in this industry will be after, be warned

HIV Vaccine Infects 41 Volunteers

More info here

http://www.activistpost.com/2013/04/...vist+ Post%29

[Datebizguy]

um ok, i guess

[Robbie]

That story doesn't say that the vaccine infected anybody.

It said that they gave a study group of men and transgender men who routinely had man-to-man sex a "vaccine". Half were given a placebo and half were given the vaccine.

At the end of the study the vaccine was considered a failure because slightly more men on the vaccine contracted HIV as opposed to the placebo group.

Titles like the one the OP made are what helps to fuck up GFY.

[epitome]

Originally Posted by Robbie

That story doesn't say that the vaccine infected anybody.

It said that they gave a study group of men and transgender men who routinely had man-to-man sex a "vaccine". Half were given a placebo and half were given the vaccine.

At the end of the study the vaccine was considered a failure because slightly more men on the vaccine contracted HIV as opposed to the placebo group.

Titles like the one the OP made are what helps to fuck up GFY.

Yeah I was going to break it down for him after he posted it but realized he was just trolling like he usually does. Hopefully he is on the cleanup list for this place.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by epitome

Yeah I was going to break it down for him after he posted it but realized he was just trolling like he usually does. Hopefully he is on the cleanup list for this place.

I don't even understand why people do that. It's not funny, it's not fun, it's just stupid.

[epitome]

Originally Posted by Robbie

I don't even understand why people do that. It's not funny, it's not fun, it's just stupid.

He's the only one I sort of give the benefit of doubt to because I think he actually has a comprehension problem and believes half the shit he hears/reads.

This is one of those subjects you should stfu about if you are misinformed, which he obviously is.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Robbie

That story doesn't say that the vaccine infected anybody.

It said that they gave a study group of men and transgender men who routinely had man-to-man sex a "vaccine". Half were given a placebo and half were given the vaccine.

At the end of the study the vaccine was considered a failure because slightly more men on the vaccine contracted HIV as opposed to the placebo group.

Titles like the one the OP made are what helps to fuck up GFY.

I copied the title of the video, if we look closer though it's actually that the vaccine is making people more susceptible to HIV, not that they're being infected directly from the vaccine.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by epitome

He's the only one I sort of give the benefit of doubt to because I think he actually has a comprehension problem and believes half the shit he hears/reads.

This is one of those subjects you should stfu about if you are misinformed, which he obviously is.

This is my specialist subject matter

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

I copied the title of the video, if we look closer though it's actually that the vaccine is making people more susceptible to HIV, not that they're being infected directly from the vaccine.

I didn't have to look closer. I just simply read the story on the CBS News link you sent. It wasn't like it was extensive research or anything.

Why would you post shit up that you don't know much about without even reading about it first in the links you posted?

Probably a good idea to make sure about something before you post it so it doesn't end up making you look foolish.

EDIT: And NO, the report didn't say the vaccine is making people more susceptible. It said that the vaccine doesn't work. You can't factor in what different people in the control groups were doing. If some in the vaccine control groups were having bareback anal creampie sex with an AIDS infected top every day for two years that might skew the results slightly for instance.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Robbie

I didn't have to look closer. I just simply read the story on the CBS News link you sent. It wasn't like it was extensive research or anything.

Why would you post shit up that you don't know much about without even reading about it first in the links you posted?

Probably a good idea to make sure about something before you post it so it doesn't end up making you look foolish.

There are many more studies, once you know the pattern you see that this is just the same thing again, CBS will not link it to the vaccines, they receive huge pharmaceutical money for advertising, also it's what's known as 'irresponsible journalism' to let bad information about vaccines get out. However, to anyone who examines the studies, it's clear what's going on here. Vaccines are a way of increasing Pharma profits by spreading disease and making people more susceptible to disease.

[wehateporn]

HIV vaccine trial shut down
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/apr...alted-20130426

"In another major setback for efforts to develop an HIV vaccine, federal researchers have shut down a key clinical trial after an independent panel of safety experts determined that volunteers who got an experimental vaccine appeared to be slightly more likely to contract the human immunodeficiency virus than those who got a placebo."

[wehateporn]

They only shut studies like this down for a very good reason

Feds shut down clinical trials for HIV vaccine, citing safety

"Independent safety experts ordered the halt earlier this week, after finding that those who received the vaccine ? as opposed to those who received the placebo ? faced a slightly bigger chance of contracting HIV, human immunodeficiency virus, L.A. Times said. HIV is the virus that causes AIDS."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ccine-citing-/

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

They only shut studies like this down for a very good reason

Feds shut down clinical trials for HIV vaccine, citing safety

"Independent safety experts ordered the halt earlier this week, after finding that those who received the vaccine ? as opposed to those who received the placebo ? faced a slightly bigger chance of contracting HIV, human immunodeficiency virus, L.A. Times said. HIV is the virus that causes AIDS."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ccine-citing-/

Because the vaccine didn't work.

Dude, the vaccine didn't give them HIV. Fucking other guys bareback who were already infected is what got them infected.
The people in the study were chosen because they do lead that lifestyle and the study needed to be done with high risk people.

[epitome]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

HIV vaccine trial shut down
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/apr...alted-20130426

"In another major setback for efforts to develop an HIV vaccine, federal researchers have shut down a key clinical trial after an independent panel of safety experts determined that volunteers who got an experimental vaccine appeared to be slightly more likely to contract the human immunodeficiency virus than those who got a placebo."

Because the vaccine didn't work and they thought it did and gave themselves permission to engage in even riskier behavior? Perhaps they had the same inability to comprehend things as you and thought they were immune?

[crockett]

Originally Posted by epitome

Yeah I was going to break it down for him after he posted it but realized he was just trolling like he usually does. Hopefully he is on the cleanup list for this place.

He isn't "trolling" he simply just re-posts shit he finds elsewhere, with out reading or even looking to see if it's true. It's the same with all the little conspiracy nutters, they just spread all the garbage with out reading a damn thing or even attempting to fact check it.

They simply see flashy title description someone else posts and then run around the net posting it all over as if it were the gospel.

[Arnox]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

However, to anyone who examines the studies, it's clear what's going on here. Vaccines are a way of increasing Pharma profits by spreading disease and making people more susceptible to disease.

http://www.niaid.nih.gov/news/newsre...April2013.aspx

Overall in the study from the day of enrollment through the month 24 study visit, a total of 41 cases of HIV infection occurred in the volunteers who received the investigational vaccine regimen and 30 cases of HIV infection occurred among the placebo vaccine recipients.

This isn't a large enough sample size to pin the infection rates on the vaccine. The title is intellectually dishonest and ignorant of the scientific method. These 41 individuals did not receive HIV from the vaccine, they weren't protected against HIV from the vaccine.

[J.R.]

Hmmm. Ok,

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

I copied the title of the video....

So you copied the misleading title of the video in a vain attempt to get page views.

Lame.

[Datebizguy]

reallly ? ? dumb

[OneHungLo]

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