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DraX · 06-12-2013, 06:27 AM

I have a family member with a cancer diagnose and thought apart from healthcare do as much as we can ourself.

This is a short text paragraph about the effects of glutathione on cancer cells.

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Preliminary results indicate glutathione changes the level of reactive oxygen species in isolated cells grown in a laboratory, which may reduce cancer development. None of these tests were performed on humans.

However, once a cancer has already developed, by conferring resistance to a number of chemotherapeutic drugs, elevated levels of glutathione in tumour cells are able to protect cancerous cells in bone marrow, breast, colon, larynx, and lung cancers.

Regarding the 2nd sentence does it mean that with elevated levels of glutathione the tumor cells gets protection against chemo ? What we want is chemo to damage tumor cells and not take a supplement to protect them...

Was thinking to start taking N-acetylcysteine supplement which raises glutathione in the body and keeping the bodies own strength against cancer at a possible max. At other places I read that glutathione protects healthy cells from both chemo and radiation therapy but not anything that it would protect tumor cells.

Been reading other articles as well but it's only this part that made me think differently.

Any comments ?

Mutt · 06-12-2013, 06:39 AM

what i get from the second paragraph is that glutathione in tumor cells is NOT a good thing, it makes the tumor cells more resistant to chemotherapy drugs..

the first paragraph suggests that glutathione in normal cells may protect/prevent normal cells from becoming cancerous.

i wish you and your family member the best and a successful outcome

Barry-xlovecam · 06-12-2013, 07:39 AM

Ask your Oncologist.

Often times Wikipedia contains unsubstantiated or theoretical medical claims.

At least confirm it ...

EddyTheDog · 06-12-2013, 07:44 AM

I probably could 'translate' that, but I don't think I should and nor should anyone else here...

Good luck anyway.....

FlowerKid · 06-12-2013, 09:50 AM

Look for a medical forum.

_Richard_ · 06-12-2013, 09:56 AM

can you post link to the article that you're reading?

Si · 06-12-2013, 10:01 AM

Don't think this is the right place to be asking this sort of thing. There are plenty of medical forums. What you're quoting doesn't sound like something a cancer patient should be taking.

Do your research and get your family member onto a really good diet to go along with the therapy would be my advice.

All1 · 06-12-2013, 10:13 AM

Nitrogen mustard is great for your loved one's health. The best.

DraX · 06-12-2013, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

what i get from the second paragraph is that glutathione in tumor cells is NOT a good thing, it makes the tumor cells more resistant to chemotherapy drugs..

the first paragraph suggests that glutathione in normal cells may protect/prevent normal cells from becoming cancerous.

i wish you and your family member the best and a successful outcome

I interpreted it exactly the same, thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si

Don't think this is the right place to be asking this sort of thing. There are plenty of medical forums. What you're quoting doesn't sound like something a cancer patient should be taking.

Do your research and get your family member onto a really good diet to go along with the therapy would be my advice.

I was thinking lots of fruit and vegetables and perhabst extra antioxidants when eating is not so easy.

Thanks again

Si · 06-12-2013, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DraX

I was thinking lots of fruit and vegetables and perhabst extra antioxidants when eating is not so easy.

Thanks again

Yep you knew that already

all kinds of good stuff out there, best of luck!

newB · 06-12-2013, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DraX

I was thinking lots of fruit and vegetables and perhabst extra antioxidants when eating is not so easy.

Speak to an oncologist before beginning any sort of self-medication, even dietary changes. I read an article recently about James Watson (of Watson & Crick who first proposed the double helical structure of DNA) who proposed that antioxidants perhaps caused more harm than good in regards to cancer. The idea being that oxidation is a useful process that might play a vital role in identifying and removing damaged cells (apoptosis), but that process is perhaps hindered by excessive use of dietary supplements.

Best of luck to your family member.

masubuko · 06-12-2013, 03:41 PM

Drax take a look at curehunter DOT com it is a site that anyone with a diagnosis of cancer or rare/semi rare disease should be aware of. It is the only fully integrated scientific search, data retrieval and analysis engine on the web that can read the entire US National Library of Medicine Medline Archive and automatically extract and quantify the evidence for successful clinical outcomes of all known drugs for all known human diseases.

The relationship network on the right (after you type in the disease name) is key.

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Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	Ask your Oncologist. Often times Wikipedia contains unsubstantiated or theoretical medical claims. At least confirm it ...

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masubuko Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 55	Drax take a look at curehunter DOT com it is a site that anyone with a diagnosis of cancer or rare/semi rare disease should be aware of. It is the only fully integrated scientific search, data retrieval and analysis engine on the web that can read the entire US National Library of Medicine Medline Archive and automatically extract and quantify the evidence for successful clinical outcomes of all known drugs for all known human diseases. The relationship network on the right (after you type in the disease name) is key. __________________ ICQ 571102603

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_Richard_ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 30,986	can you post link to the article that you're reading?

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Si Such Fun! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 13,900	Don't think this is the right place to be asking this sort of thing. There are plenty of medical forums. What you're quoting doesn't sound like something a cancer patient should be taking. Do your research and get your family member onto a really good diet to go along with the therapy would be my advice.

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All1 So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 215	Nitrogen mustard is great for your loved one's health. The best.