About the Zimmerman trial

[theking]

...I think at this point in time the Prosecutions Case In Chief has done a wonderful job of providing a defense for Zimmerman.

I think that when the Prosecution rests...Zimmerman's attorneys should not put on a case and let it go to the jury as is...because I don't think that they can put on a defense better than what the prosecution has already presented for them.

[iSpyCams]

Yes but we are not there and know nothing about it except what the news is telling us and they have been either wrong or lying about most of it so far. So who fucking knows.

[ThunderBalls]

Originally Posted by pompousjohn

Yes but we are not there and know nothing about it except what the news is telling us and they have been either wrong or lying about most of it so far. So who fucking knows.

Yea thats right. No one knows anything about it other than what the news is telling us. That and the millions who have been watching it.

[theking]

Originally Posted by pompousjohn

Yes but we are not there and know nothing about it except what the news is telling us and they have been either wrong or lying about most of it so far. So who fucking knows.

I have watched every single minute of the trial...and I repeat that the prosecution has done a wonderful job of defending Zimmerman.

[Tommy The Twink]

Originally Posted by theking

I have watched every single minute of the trial...and I repeat that the prosecution has done a wonderful job of defending Zimmerman.

shut up you dumb fuck

[Tommy The Twink]

Originally Posted by theking

...I think at this point in time the Prosecutions Case In Chief has done a wonderful job of providing a defense for Zimmerman.

I think that when the Prosecution rests...Zimmerman's attorneys should not put on a case and let it go to the jury as is...because I don't think that they can put on a defense better than what the prosecution has already presented for them.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by pompousjohn

Yes but we are not there and know nothing about it except what the news is telling us and they have been either wrong or lying about most of it so far. So who fucking knows.

You can do like I do and open a tab with the trial running in the background, you can listen to the entire thing. http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream/

As far as the original comment, it crossed my mind today that because they did not really want to prosecute but were forced into it, they are merely showing everyone why they did not want to waste the money on a trial.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Tommy The Twink

shut up you dumb fuck

Shoo...go away little troll.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Tommy The Twink

You give twinks a bad name

[iSpyCams]

Sorry did not realize people were able to watch the whole trial.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by baddog

You can do like I do and open a tab with the trial running in the background, you can listen to the entire thing. http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream/

As far as the original comment, it crossed my mind today that because they did not really want to prosecute but were forced into it, they are merely showing everyone why they did not want to waste the money on a trial.

what do you think on trayvon martin was living there in a gated community and zimmerman entered to confront someone who committed no crime?

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

what do you think on trayvon martin was living there in a gated community and zimmerman entered to confront someone who committed no crime?

Zimmerman was the appointed neighborhood watch coordinator for the neighborhood. He was supposed to keep his eye on the place. Martin was visiting his father while serving a school suspension. Martini's father was visiting a woman in the community.

[AllAboutCams]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Zimmerman was the appointed neighborhood watch coordinator for the neighborhood. He was supposed to keep his eye on the place. Martin was visiting his father while serving a school suspension. Martini's father was visiting a woman in the community.

Visiting her or making her a single mum?

[Lace]

Aren't you supposed to be dead?

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Zimmerman was the appointed neighborhood watch coordinator for the neighborhood. He was supposed to keep his eye on the place. Martin was visiting his father while serving a school suspension. Martini's father was visiting a woman in the community.

right so if im block captain i can chase people down and kill them? kool!

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

right so if im block captain i can chase people down and kill them? kool!

Yes. That's exactly what I said.

[anexsia]

Originally Posted by baddog

You can do like I do and open a tab with the trial running in the background, you can listen to the entire thing. http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream/

As far as the original comment, it crossed my mind today that because they did not really want to prosecute but were forced into it, they are merely showing everyone why they did not want to waste the money on a trial.

That's what I was thinking too, the prosecution doesn't even seem to be trying.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

what do you think on trayvon martin was living there in a gated community and zimmerman entered to confront someone who committed no crime?

Sorry, I did not hear that testimony. Who was the witness?

[Just Alex]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

right so if im block captain i can chase people down and kill them? kool!

If they look like 10 other guys who burglarized your hood and attacked you? Fucking yes! Give Zim a medal.

[Just Alex]

Originally Posted by baddog

Sorry, I did not hear that testimony. Who was the witness?

This guy. He saw everything.

[mardigras]

Originally Posted by baddog

You can do like I do and open a tab with the trial running in the background, you can listen to the entire thing. http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream/

Cool, I've been using this raw feed, nice to have a backup.

I need to find a site with extensive video, I wasn't able to listen the last 2 days and would like to catch up over the weekend.

Originally Posted by baddog

As far as the original comment, it crossed my mind today that because they did not really want to prosecute but were forced into it, they are merely showing everyone why they did not want to waste the money on a trial.

You may be on to something, at times it has sounded like alternating defense attorneys

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by baddog

Sorry, I did not hear that testimony. Who was the witness?

im not really going to get into it. have to transfer some bell peppers. maybe tomorrow have a good one sir.

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

have to transfer some bell peppers

From someone else's yard to your own? ;)

[Just Alex]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

have to transfer some bell peppers.

New slang for bicycles?

[theking]

Originally Posted by baddog

Sorry, I did not hear that testimony. Who was the witness?

Because there hasn't been any witness testimony saying that.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

im not really going to get into it. have to transfer some bell peppers. maybe tomorrow have a good one sir.

I take it you have not been watching/listening. You really should.

Originally Posted by Webmaster Advertising

From someone else's yard to your own? ;)

[theking]

Some people are under the misimpression that the stand your ground law is in play in this trial but it is not. The defense is going for self defense and if the defense decides they want to put forward a defense...one thing that will probably be put forward...is that Zimmerman did not use his gun just because he was on the losing end of a fight...but because during the scuffle his jacket had slid up exposing his gun and Martin was going for the gun.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Webmaster Advertising

From someone else's yard to your own? ;)

the class your clever.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by baddog

I take it you have not been watching/listening. You really should.

dont really want to get involved with it. i just follow what the racist rants are here on gfy

[Rochard]

I am not going to sit here and go day by day with this - it just isn't that interesting.

For me it's pretty much open and shut. Zimmerman followed the kid, and Zimmerman pulled the trigger that killed the kid. Can't argue that. They will try to argue that Zimmerman was in a life threatening situation, blah blah blah; Sorry, his injuries aren't enough to make this "life threatening". He was getting beat up, not killed.

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Originally Posted by Rochard

He was getting beat up, not killed.

What if Treyvon had a gun or a knife?

How was Zimmerman to know that a couple of punches, or head bashes into the concrete wasn't going to escalate into the use of a deadly weapon?

I'm sorry I have a concealed carry permit, there are areas of town I refuse to go to without a firearm, if someone physically harms me in one of those areas of town you can bet your ass I'm going to shoot them. I am not however, going to lay there and ask them if they have a weapon or if they're just going to beat the crap outta me.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Webmaster Advertising

What if Treyvon had a gun or a knife?

How was Zimmerman to know that a couple of punches, or head bashes into the concrete wasn't going to escalate into the use of a deadly weapon?

I'm sorry I have a concealed carry permit, there are areas of town I refuse to go to without a firearm, if someone physically harms me in one of those areas of town you can bet your ass I'm going to shoot them. I am not however, going to lay there and ask them if they have a weapon or if they're just going to beat the crap outta me.

if they're going to shoot you probably wont even make the draw. what do you walk around with your hand in your pocket! ??? find another place to buy your candy

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

if they're going to shoot you probably wont even make the draw. what do you walk around with your hand in your pocket! ??? find another place to buy your candy

It's not necessarily shootings, there are stabbings all the time in the more ghetto areas of town, which also happen to be where some of the best mechanics and car detailing places are.

A friend of ours brother has been held up at knife point and once at gun point by niglets in the past 3 months, yet he still has no desire to carry a weapon, he's an idiot, the next time he might not be so lucky as to just lose his wallet.

You would also be surprised to actually know just how many people have a CCP people you wouldn't even imagine have them, that frail old white lady next to you at the checkout line, that guy who just sped past you in his suped-up 'stang, that chick who just walked out of the local Applebee's from her lunch break.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

dont really want to get involved with it. i just follow what the racist rants are here on gfy

Then why ask questions that are not based on any kind of fact?

Originally Posted by Rochard

I am not going to sit here and go day by day with this - it just isn't that interesting.

For me it's pretty much open and shut. Zimmerman followed the kid, and Zimmerman pulled the trigger that killed the kid. Can't argue that. They will try to argue that Zimmerman was in a life threatening situation, blah blah blah; Sorry, his injuries aren't enough to make this "life threatening". He was getting beat up, not killed.

And if Martin was going for Zimmerman's gun?

[theking]

Originally Posted by Webmaster Advertising

It's not necessarily shootings, there are stabbings all the time in the more ghetto areas of town, which also happen to be where some of the best mechanics and car detailing places are.

A friend of ours brother has been held up at knife point and once at gun point by niglets in the past 3 months, yet he still has no desire to carry a weapon, he's an idiot, the next time he might not be so lucky as to just lose his wallet.

You would also be surprised to actually know just how many people have a CCP people you wouldn't even imagine have them, that frail old white lady next to you at the checkout line, that guy who just sped past you in his suped-up 'stang, that chick who just walked out of the local Applebee's from her lunch break.

There are also a surprising number of people that carry that don't have a permit.

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Won't be found guilty!

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Zimmerman was the appointed neighborhood watch coordinator for the neighborhood. He was supposed to keep his eye on the place. Martin was visiting his father while serving a school suspension. Martini's father was visiting a woman in the community.

read this http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...ains-zimmerman

[baddog]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

read this http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...ains-zimmerman

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and since when did a newspaper article trump court testimony?

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Originally Posted by theking

There are also a surprising number of people that carry that don't have a permit.

True.

I'd wager a bet the majority of them are wannabe street thugs or real life gangsta's.

Fortunately Zimmerman was legally allowed to carry so your statement becomes moot.

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Originally Posted by baddog

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and since when did a newspaper article trump court testimony?

Murica...

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by baddog

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and since when did a newspaper article trump court testimony?

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Trayvon Martin would be alive if Neighborhood Watch rules followed
7:41 p.m. EST, March 14, 2012|Beth hahahahahaha

If George Zimmerman didn't break every rule in the book when it comes to Neighborhood Watch programs, he came close.

Zimmerman called Sanford police on Feb. 26, a rainy Sunday evening, to report a suspicious person inside his neighborhood near Seminole Towne Center.

We don't know everything that happened in the 13 minutes that passed between the time Zimmerman, 28, called police and a paramedic pronounced 17-year-old Trayvon Martin dead.

But this much isn't in dispute: Zimmerman was armed. He was alone. And while waiting for police, he somehow got into a fight with the person he thought suspicious.

All three of those actions are strongly discouraged by the National Sheriffs' Association, which oversees about 20,000 Neighborhood Watch programs.

There are practical reasons for those rules.

And this absolutely heart-wrenching one: A family of a teenager is now coping with a death that probably could have been avoided.

"There is no reason in the world to carry a gun for Neighborhood Watch," said Chris Tutko, a retired police chief who now directs Neighborhood Watch for the sheriffs' association. "It gets people more into trouble than out of it."

A manual published by the association for its "USAonWatch" program makes that very clear.

"It should be emphasized to members that they do not possess police powers and they shall not carry weapons or pursue vehicles," the manual states. "Members should never confront suspicious persons who could be armed and dangerous."

Zimmerman is reportedly the self-appointed leader for the group at his complex of town homes. A sign at the gated entrance warns it is surveilled by Neighborhood Watch, and says, "We report all suspicious persons and activities to the Sanford Police Department."

That's a prudent step for any neighborhood. In fact, Neighborhood Watches are popular in Central Florida. In Orlando alone, there are 905 block captains listed with Orlando police.

Some groups are highly organized and walk their neighborhoods in scheduled patrols. More often, though, neighbors just get acquainted with one another, exchange phone numbers and learn to report anything out of the ordinary that they notice as they move through life's predictable moments: taking out the garbage, walking the dog or getting the mail.

Even the basis for Zimmerman's initial phone call is questionable.

Here's why: The sheriffs' association manual lists the type of suspicious activity that should be reported to police. Among the examples: "Someone peering into car windows" and "broken doors or windows."

Nowhere does it list walking while black, which is all Trayvon appeared to be doing as he made his way back to the house of his dad's fiancée after a candy run to 7-Eleven. Trayvon was armed only with a package of Skittles in his pocket.

At least one neighbor told the Sentinel that young black men were suspected in recent neighborhood crimes. Yet nothing ? so far, at least ? suggests that Zimmerman had reason to think Trayvon was committing a crime.

We don't know exactly what happened next, but at some point the two fought. Zimmerman was bleeding by the time police arrived, and Trayvon was lying facedown dead in the grass.

Zimmerman told police the shooting happened in self-defense. The Seminole County state attorney is investigating whether the killing was justified.

It doesn't take much investigating, though, to see that if some basic, common-sense rules of Neighborhood Watch had been followed, it's likely none of this would have happened.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

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Trayvon Martin would be alive if Neighborhood Watch rules followed
7:41 p.m. EST, March 14, 2012|Beth hahahahahaha

If George Zimmerman didn't break every rule in the book when it comes to Neighborhood Watch programs, he came close.

Zimmerman called Sanford police on Feb. 26, a rainy Sunday evening, to report a suspicious person inside his neighborhood near Seminole Towne Center.

We don't know everything that happened in the 13 minutes that passed between the time Zimmerman, 28, called police and a paramedic pronounced 17-year-old Trayvon Martin dead.

But this much isn't in dispute: Zimmerman was armed. He was alone. And while waiting for police, he somehow got into a fight with the person he thought suspicious.

All three of those actions are strongly discouraged by the National Sheriffs' Association, which oversees about 20,000 Neighborhood Watch programs.

There are practical reasons for those rules.

And this absolutely heart-wrenching one: A family of a teenager is now coping with a death that probably could have been avoided.

"There is no reason in the world to carry a gun for Neighborhood Watch," said Chris Tutko, a retired police chief who now directs Neighborhood Watch for the sheriffs' association. "It gets people more into trouble than out of it."

A manual published by the association for its "USAonWatch" program makes that very clear.

"It should be emphasized to members that they do not possess police powers and they shall not carry weapons or pursue vehicles," the manual states. "Members should never confront suspicious persons who could be armed and dangerous."

Zimmerman is reportedly the self-appointed leader for the group at his complex of town homes. A sign at the gated entrance warns it is surveilled by Neighborhood Watch, and says, "We report all suspicious persons and activities to the Sanford Police Department."

That's a prudent step for any neighborhood. In fact, Neighborhood Watches are popular in Central Florida. In Orlando alone, there are 905 block captains listed with Orlando police.

Some groups are highly organized and walk their neighborhoods in scheduled patrols. More often, though, neighbors just get acquainted with one another, exchange phone numbers and learn to report anything out of the ordinary that they notice as they move through life's predictable moments: taking out the garbage, walking the dog or getting the mail.

Even the basis for Zimmerman's initial phone call is questionable.

Here's why: The sheriffs' association manual lists the type of suspicious activity that should be reported to police. Among the examples: "Someone peering into car windows" and "broken doors or windows."

Nowhere does it list walking while black, which is all Trayvon appeared to be doing as he made his way back to the house of his dad's fiancée after a candy run to 7-Eleven. Trayvon was armed only with a package of Skittles in his pocket.

At least one neighbor told the Sentinel that young black men were suspected in recent neighborhood crimes. Yet nothing ? so far, at least ? suggests that Zimmerman had reason to think Trayvon was committing a crime.

We don't know exactly what happened next, but at some point the two fought. Zimmerman was bleeding by the time police arrived, and Trayvon was lying facedown dead in the grass.

Zimmerman told police the shooting happened in self-defense. The Seminole County state attorney is investigating whether the killing was justified.

It doesn't take much investigating, though, to see that if some basic, common-sense rules of Neighborhood Watch had been followed, it's likely none of this would have happened.

I don't know why they are wasting the state's money with a trial since Beth seems to have all the facts summed up.

[Just Alex]

Originally Posted by baddog

I don't know why they are wasting the state's money with a trial since Beth seems to have all the facts summed up.

Can't go wrong with Beth. Who needs to watch this shit on TV and actually think for himself when you have "Beth"? Fuck this thinking shit, got to move them bell peppers.