The Government Is Snooping Through Your Snail Mail - GoFuckYourself.com

Captain Kawaii · 07-03-2013, 11:05 PM

Take heed ladies and gentlemen. Just this past week I made a special request for a document from a county office out in the sticks of northern California. Used tracking on the envelope I sent.

Envelope went from my post office to sort facility...then vanished. I've been harassing the post office about it. The envelope only needed to go to a 2nd post office then to the county office. Never made it past sort. Post office responses have been laced with incompetence and nervousness. One guy told me he gets a lot of these calls. His job is to refer you to dead end customer service numbers. One is out of service and the other is a VM that so far has gone unanswered.

So...Lost? Really with an address and tracking label affixed?
Dumped in the garbage cause mail worker too lazy to deliver?
County worker wants to cheat his boss out of $17 bucks for a doc copy?
Or is some FED masturbating to my exciting doc request?

I mean really, what the fuck?

The Government Is Snooping Through Your Snail Mail

In addition to the email and phone metadata the U.S. government is tracking, the feds also have an eye on your regular old snail mail, which is actually a "treasure trove of information," according to a former FBI agent who used to work with the Mail Isolation Control and Tracking program, as it's called. One would think that snail mail, a relic from a former century, wouldn't provide that much insight into our lives ? isn't it all bills and unwamted brochures by now? But, it's just about as useful, it not more so, than digital collection. "Looking at just the outside of letters and other mail, I can see who you bank with, who you communicate with ? all kinds of useful information that gives investigators leads that they can then follow up on with a subpoena," James J. Wedick, the FBI agent, told The New York Times's Ron Nixon.

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the Shemp · 07-04-2013, 12:07 AM

there are a lot of places in the postal system where a letter can get lost ...

Captain Kawaii · 07-04-2013, 10:28 AM

I know, I know. We have a dyslexic mail carrier for the house.

I get so many other peoples mail. I send it back but I am guessing many just toss it.

I just thought it odd that a priority/tracked mail going from sort to 2nd post office to gov office...cannot make it. Sad really.

CT-Content · 07-04-2013, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

In addition to the email and phone metadata the U.S. government is tracking, the feds also have an eye on your regular old snail mail, which is actually a "treasure trove of information,"

Adapt or fucking die!
These are the sign of the times! - Don't like it, move to Klondike Alaska or rural Siberia!

Captain Kawaii · 07-04-2013, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CT-Content

Adapt or fucking die!
These are the sign of the times! - Don't like it, move to Klondike Alaska or rural Siberia!

Scary.....

- Do you have a good line on carrier pigeons? They'll have to pass a polygraph though.

Itchy · 07-04-2013, 12:44 PM

Redrob · 07-04-2013, 09:25 PM

Article in today's newspaper about gov't tracking snail mail. Said photo every piece for address info. Can't read mail without warrant.

ajrocks · 07-05-2013, 06:23 AM

I haven't used snail mail in over 5 years. I don't see the point of it. There is no need to use it in 2013. Packages should be sent with a real shipping company and letters done via email. There is zero reason to pay your bills or receive them via snail mail.

It's time for the postal service to die off with the rest of the dyno's.

Dirty Dane · 07-05-2013, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Itchy

arock10 · 07-05-2013, 08:25 AM

It is suspicious people are still using snail mail

bronco67 · 07-05-2013, 08:31 AM

Nobody gives a shit about your snail mail. Or your phone calls. Or anything about your life. It's called paranoia.

_Richard_ · 07-05-2013, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

Article in today's newspaper about gov't tracking snail mail. Said photo every piece for address info. Can't read mail without warrant.

thats.. an amazing coincidence

RandyRandy · 07-05-2013, 08:34 AM

As much as I distrust the US Government, I would chalk up anything having to do with the US Post Office to incompetance. I used to live aroung the corner from the Morgan General Mail Facility in NYC, which I believe handles more mail than any other facility in the world - about 12 million pieces a day. Across the street from the facility is an Irish Pub named The Blarney Stone. Many times I would be the only one drinking there who wasn't wearing a postal uniform. They would file in and out, all day/night long whether it was one of their three 20 minute breaks or their breakfast/lunch/dinner breaks - the facility goes 24/7 - 365 and the Blarney Stone goes 8am - 4am 365 days a year.

I use the US Post office maybe twice a year, and I always regret it. They are an obsolete system that should be privatized. Technology and Customer Service and not the priorities of the Post Office - counting the days until their bloated pensions kick in is all they think about.

Captain Kawaii · 07-05-2013, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyRandy

As much as I distrust the US Government, I would chalk up anything having to do with the US Post Office to incompetance. I used to live aroung the corner from the Morgan General Mail Facility in NYC, which I believe handles more mail than any other facility in the world - about 12 million pieces a day. Across the street from the facility is an Irish Pub named The Blarney Stone. Many times I would be the only one drinking there who wasn't wearing a postal uniform. They would file in and out, all day/night long whether it was one of their three 20 minute breaks or their breakfast/lunch/dinner breaks - the facility goes 24/7 - 365 and the Blarney Stone goes 8am - 4am 365 days a year.

I use the US Post office maybe twice a year, and I always regret it. They are an obsolete system that should be privatized. Technology and Customer Service and not the priorities of the Post Office - counting the days until their bloated pensions kick in is all they think about.

QFT. Its pretty much incompetence these days. I have to use them for shipping physical products. Only reason I use them. All bills etc, paid over Internet or by phone.

They are privatized by the way. As for 2257 and adult they are all, USPS, FedEX, UPS, under the same guidelines now. All of them are horror shows for one reason or another.

Blarney Stone Pub reminded me of a trip to LAX yesterday. I asked a parking security guard a question, he was totally wasted. lol. I asked him, "Where are we?" He said, "Disneyland."

Captain Kawaii · 07-05-2013, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

Nobody gives a shit about your snail mail. Or your phone calls. Or anything about your life. It's called paranoia.

In your case its called poor genetics.

PR_Glen · 07-05-2013, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

In your case its called poor genetics.

he's not the one claiming government conspiracy over some lost mail..

as if the government gives a shit about your happenings... or any of ours for that matter. As long as you aren't flagged for some terrorist shit I wouldn't worry about it and resend.

Captain Kawaii · 07-05-2013, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

he's not the one claiming government conspiracy over some lost mail..

as if the government gives a shit about your happenings... or any of ours for that matter. As long as you aren't flagged for some terrorist shit I wouldn't worry about it and resend.

Neither am I Sherlock, as for the conspiracy. The article and my bad luck were coincidences. I did re-send, this time certified. Considering the nature of the mail should probably have sent it that way to begin with. Its 50/50 as to whether the post office will actually send the certified receipt back to me.

I love how this discussion board is for anything except discussion.

07-03-2013, 11:05 PM	#1
Captain Kawaii So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6,748	The Government Is Snooping Through Your Snail Mail Take heed ladies and gentlemen. Just this past week I made a special request for a document from a county office out in the sticks of northern California. Used tracking on the envelope I sent. Envelope went from my post office to sort facility...then vanished. I've been harassing the post office about it. The envelope only needed to go to a 2nd post office then to the county office. Never made it past sort. Post office responses have been laced with incompetence and nervousness. One guy told me he gets a lot of these calls. His job is to refer you to dead end customer service numbers. One is out of service and the other is a VM that so far has gone unanswered. So...Lost? Really with an address and tracking label affixed? Dumped in the garbage cause mail worker too lazy to deliver? County worker wants to cheat his boss out of $17 bucks for a doc copy? Or is some FED masturbating to my exciting doc request? I mean really, what the fuck? The Government Is Snooping Through Your Snail Mail In addition to the email and phone metadata the U.S. government is tracking, the feds also have an eye on your regular old snail mail, which is actually a "treasure trove of information," according to a former FBI agent who used to work with the Mail Isolation Control and Tracking program, as it's called. One would think that snail mail, a relic from a former century, wouldn't provide that much insight into our lives ? isn't it all bills and unwamted brochures by now? But, it's just about as useful, it not more so, than digital collection. "Looking at just the outside of letters and other mail, I can see who you bank with, who you communicate with ? all kinds of useful information that gives investigators leads that they can then follow up on with a subpoena," James J. Wedick, the FBI agent, told The New York Times's Ron Nixon. Source

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Captain Kawaii So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6,748	I know, I know. We have a dyslexic mail carrier for the house. I get so many other peoples mail. I send it back but I am guessing many just toss it. I just thought it odd that a priority/tracked mail going from sort to 2nd post office to gov office...cannot make it. Sad really.

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Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,790	Article in today's newspaper about gov't tracking snail mail. Said photo every piece for address info. Can't read mail without warrant.

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bronco67 Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,035	Nobody gives a shit about your snail mail. Or your phone calls. Or anything about your life. It's called paranoia. __________________

07-05-2013, 08:34 AM	#13
RandyRandy Clips still sell! Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Crown Heights, Brooklyn Posts: 1,708	As much as I distrust the US Government, I would chalk up anything having to do with the US Post Office to incompetance. I used to live aroung the corner from the Morgan General Mail Facility in NYC, which I believe handles more mail than any other facility in the world - about 12 million pieces a day. Across the street from the facility is an Irish Pub named The Blarney Stone. Many times I would be the only one drinking there who wasn't wearing a postal uniform. They would file in and out, all day/night long whether it was one of their three 20 minute breaks or their breakfast/lunch/dinner breaks - the facility goes 24/7 - 365 and the Blarney Stone goes 8am - 4am 365 days a year. I use the US Post office maybe twice a year, and I always regret it. They are an obsolete system that should be privatized. Technology and Customer Service and not the priorities of the Post Office - counting the days until their bloated pensions kick in is all they think about.