Bizarre facts surfacing about the Zimmerman case... WTF???

[sperbonzo]

The deparment of justice has been organizing protests against Zimmerman.... WTF???

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07...rge-zimmerman/

And here is the cite:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-r...rtin-protests/

"Logically, it should be a slam dunk of ?Not Guilty? on all charges, since the evidence clearly shows Zimmerman was acting in justifiable self-defense as he was being beaten by Trayvon Martin. Or at least there is a reasonable doubt as to self-defense, which the law requires result in a Not Guilty verdict.

I?ve said it before, this was a case which never should have been brought, and it wasn?t. Not until a carefully orchestrated professionally managed publicity campaign based on false racial accusations, resulting in a Special Prosecutor.

You know the rest, or at least you thought you did until today.

We knew that Obama pumped up the racial angle when he commented that if he had a son, he would look like Trayvon. I wonder which Trayvon that was, the one the jury heard about who just liked to play video games with his siblings? Or the Trayvon of the cell phone, bragging not long before this incident about his fighting prowess and how he knew how to sucker punch people in the nose? But the jury never will know that.

We also knew that Eric Holder had the DOJ investigate the case, and that the FBI found no evidence that Zimmerman was racist or motivated by racism.

What we didn?t know until today was that the DOJ supported some of the anti-Zimmerman rallies, as disclosed by Judicial Watch (which also is helping me with my lawsuit to obtain David Gregory non-prosecution records from D.C.):

Judicial Watch announced today that it has obtained documents in response to local, state, and federal records requests revealing that a little-known unit of the Department of Justice (DOJ), the Community Relations Service (CRS), was deployed to Sanford, FL, following the Trayvon Martin shooting to help organize and manage rallies and protests against George Zimmerman.

The way the trial has been conducted is an equal travesty.

The prosecution is throwing everything against the wall, including conflicting and inconsistent theories that Trayvon was on the bottom of the fight screaming and alternatively that Trayvon was on top pulling back.

Similarly the prosecution creates obsessive distractions such as whether Zimmerman ?followed? Martin, even though that is legally irrelevant.

We have had the strange spectacle of the prosecution attacking its own police witnesses who had the temerity to believe George Zimmerman?s story and find it consistent and credible. The law enforcement world has been turned on its head in this prosecution, because it had to be turned on its head to justify the prosecution.

If you want to understand just how dirty this prosecution case has been, consider one bit of evidence which probably slipped by most viewers.

The prosecution elicited testimony from defense gun shot wound forensic expert Vincent DiMaio that he participated in studies of gunshot wounds on live animals (under a federally regulated and sanctioned program in which the animals were under anesthesia). What?s the relevance of that? Nothing. Except that the prosecution knew that there were animal owners on the jury, and this was an attempt to poison the jury on something having nothing to do with the guilt or innocence of George Zimmerman.

It?s all coming together in this case.

Racial politics supported by State power.

I hope the jury views the evidence with the dispassion of the original prosecutors. I fear it will not.

Update: Other astute observations:

Lee Stranahan:

?Welcome to Trayvongate, where the President of the United States used both the bully pulpit, the Department of Justice and sly media manipulation to gin up charges of racism in the George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin shooting. Now that the trial is almost finished and the only act of racism mentioned so far came from the victim?Martin called Zimmerman ?a creepy ass cracker? according to testimony?the cynical and repeated use of the race card by the White house is even more abhorrent.?

A reader at Althouse (h/t Instapundit):

?Look at the residents of this ?gated community? who lived just in that one spot. It is more diverse than a Democrat photo-op. This neighborhood had young and old, Asians and blacks and whites and Hispanics all living next to each other in peace, but needing a gates and a neighborhood watch to protect themselves from outsiders.?

This case never was about race. It?s infuriating and disheartening how the narrative was manipulated, and how the State was a party to it.

Update 7-11-2013: Add this Bill Lee interview to the mountain of evidence that the prosecution of George Zimmerman has been a political scam.

Ex-Sanford police chief: Zimmerman probe ?taken away from us?

The George Zimmerman investigation was hijacked ?in a number of ways? by outside forces, said the former police chief of Sanford, Florida.

Bill Lee, who testified Monday in Zimmerman?s second-degree murder trial, told CNN?s George Howell in an exclusive interview that he felt pressure from city officials to arrest Zimmerman to placate the public rather than as a matter of justice.

?It was (relayed) to me that they just wanted an arrest. They didn?t care if it got dismissed later,? he said. ?You don?t do that.?

When Sanford police arrived on the scene on February 26, 2012, after Zimmerman fatally shot unarmed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, they conducted a ?sound? investigation, and the evidence provided no probable cause to arrest Zimmerman at the scene, he said."





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Very bizarre.






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[PornDiscounts-V]

You obviously give a fuck. I don't. Don't be mad.

[purecane]

divide and conquer....

[BlackCrayon]

the US is obsessed with race.

[oppoten]

Originally Posted by purecane

divide and conquer....

Exactly

Propoganda schmopoganda.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

ADG

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

the US is obsessed with race.

not really when you assault or kill someone like in jasper,texas you need to be given back the shit you gave randomly

[newB]

Not much of a surprise considering how the media built this up from the very beginning to be racially motivated. As a result, it's now a potential powder-keg waiting to blow.

I fear, and I imagine that the local and federal government fear as well, that if Zimmerman is acquitted we will see riots and subsequent looting as we did after the Rodney King verdicts.

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Le the blacks riot, then let the cops shoot them all, problem solved

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

The deparment of justice has been organizing protests against Zimmerman.... WTF???

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07...rge-zimmerman/

And here is the cite:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-r...rtin-protests/

I call bullshit.

They say they have "documents" but yet they haven't published them why?

This is just like Snowden. He claims he has documentation proving the is conducting illegal taps on US citizens, yet... Months into this we still haven't seen them.

You can't claim to have documentation proving something and then not publish them. If you don't publish them, you got nothing but claims.

I am wondering if this is the justice department sending someone to Sanford to investigate if any federal laws have been broken, or assisting the court or police department to make sure no one's rights are violated.

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

not really when you assault or kill someone like in jasper,texas you need to be given back the shit you gave randomly

Keep that positive thought if US ever plummets into a US Gov fueled race war. Numbers are not in blacks favor. And don't expect Latinos to jump in for blacks. It will be a heinous and horrific cluster fuck.

I am not shocked in the least that FEDs and State have been fueling this. The distraction is what they live for to carry out their crimes against humanity.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I call bullshit.

They say they have "documents" but yet they haven't published them why?

This is just like Snowden. He claims he has documentation proving the is conducting illegal taps on US citizens, yet... Months into this we still haven't seen them.

You can't claim to have documentation proving something and then not publish them. If you don't publish them, you got nothing but claims.

I am wondering if this is the justice department sending someone to Sanford to investigate if any federal laws have been broken, or assisting the court or police department to make sure no one's rights are violated.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/bulleti...in-was-killed/

just need to click the highlighted 'documents'

[tony286]

Its funny when you really want to believe bullshit sites. Obama didnt take the bully pulpit he was asked about the case from the media.
The gov has nothing better to do, then fund protests for Trayvon. Sperbonzo your smarter and better than that.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

not really when you assault or kill someone like in jasper,texas you need to be given back the shit you gave randomly

I'm not sure what you mean. If this happened in canada the race of the victim and suspect would not be such a big deal.

[deltav]

Oh come on, both those sites you link to are well-known right-wing pulpits actually funded behind the scenes by Big Oil & financial industry entities, with goal of nudging public opinion & policy into directions that suit their goals.

Just more noise in the massive propaganda system employed by both sides, mindlessly re-posted by guys like you.

[ilnjscb]

wow - that is bad news

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by deltav

Oh come on, both those sites you link to are well-known right-wing pulpits actually funded behind the scenes by Big Oil & financial industry entities, with goal of nudging public opinion & policy into directions that suit their goals.

Just more noise in the massive propaganda system employed by both sides, mindlessly re-posted by guys like you.

yep didnt even bother

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

I'm not sure what you mean. If this happened in canada the race of the victim and suspect would not be such a big deal.

it would, it just would need to depend on which race and where

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

I'm not sure what you mean. If this happened in canada the race of the victim and suspect would not be such a big deal.

your country does not have slave descendants. your not a large melting pot(canada not you )

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

your country does not have slave descendants. your not a large melting pot(canada not you )

what does slavery have to do with anything? anyone who had anything to do with that is long dead but yes, there are slave decedents in canada. they came to canada to escape slavery in the US. i just think everyone is far too hung up on race. who cares if the kid is black green or purple or if zimmerman was bob dylan.

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

who cares if the kid is black green or purple or if zimmerman was bob dylan.

Agreed.

Zimmerman killed a thug, he should be celebrated not convicted of a crime

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

your country does not have slave descendants. your not a large melting pot(canada not you )

we do, and while not a 'melting pot' like the states is set up, kids grow up with different kids and it happens that way

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Webmaster Advertising

Agreed.

Zimmerman killed a thug, he should be celebrated not convicted of a crime

i don't care what kind of kid trayvon was, shooting an unarmed person is never a good thing.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I call bullshit.

They say they have "documents" but yet they haven't published them why?

This is just like Snowden. He claims he has documentation proving the is conducting illegal taps on US citizens, yet... Months into this we still haven't seen them.

You can't claim to have documentation proving something and then not publish them. If you don't publish them, you got nothing but claims.

I am wondering if this is the justice department sending someone to Sanford to investigate if any federal laws have been broken, or assisting the court or police department to make sure no one's rights are violated.

I call bullshit too. If you have proof, show it or stfu.

The clear indicator that this is bullshit is this line:

We knew that Obama pumped up the racial angle when he commented that if he had a son, he would look like Trayvon

Like, the ONLY person that would call that line racist, is a racist himself. What the real world took out of that line was that "He's the right age to be my kid" or "he could be my kid, or your kid", or "he's a good looking kid like me". The LAST thing I heard was "He's black like me".

[Google Expert]

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by **********

Like, the ONLY person that would call that line racist, is a racist himself. What the real world took out of that line was that "He's the right age to be my kid" or "he could be my kid, or your kid", or "he's a good looking kid like me". The LAST thing I heard was "He's black like me".

you think it was an appropriate thing for the president to say ?

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by **********

I call bullshit too. If you have proof, show it or stfu.

The clear indicator that this is bullshit is this line:



Like, the ONLY person that would call that line racist, is a racist himself. What the real world took out of that line was that "He's the right age to be my kid" or "he could be my kid, or your kid", or "he's a good looking kid like me". The LAST thing I heard was "He's black like me".

Mark, if you look at the link, all of the documents are shown by judicial watch. They are all linked to right there.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/bulleti...in-was-killed/

Just scroll to the bottom, and EVERY SINGLE DOCUMENT is linked to. Why don't you guys actually look at the cite, prior to "calling bullshit". There are plenty of sources that are quoted on GFY that I know to be EXTREMELY biased and have agendas that I don't agree with, including the source of this article, but I look at them anyway since you never know where facts will come from. Hell, EVERY news agency has an agenda, a bias and a filter, but that doesn't mean you don't watch any of them, it means the exact opposite, you should get your information from as many types of sources as possible if you really are interested in finding out what is going on.


As for your other statement, imagine if Bush was still president, and made a statement that Zimmerman looked like his brother, or his uncle... What would the reaction be, and why would he say that?



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[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

you think it was an appropriate thing for the president to say ?

obama should not be commenting on criminal cases period.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

obama should not be commenting on criminal cases period.

totally agree, it's weird, even in context

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

your not a large melting pot(canada not you )

the preferred term these days is *american kaleidoscope*

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

obama should not be commenting on criminal cases period.

sure he can its not illegal. go stop him

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

sure he can its not illegal. go stop him

i think it can be argued that it is illegal.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

i think it can be argued that it is illegal.

name it then argued under what??

[adult-help]

why do americans care so much about this killer? who cares? there are dozens like him daily in usa..

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

The deparment of justice has been organizing protests against Zimmerman.... WTF???

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07...rge-zimmerman/

And here is the cite:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-r...rtin-protests/

"Logically, it should be a slam dunk of ?Not Guilty? on all charges, since the evidence clearly shows Zimmerman was acting in justifiable self-defense as he was being beaten by Trayvon Martin. Or at least there is a reasonable doubt as to self-defense, which the law requires result in a Not Guilty verdict.

I?ve said it before, this was a case which never should have been brought, and it wasn?t. Not until a carefully orchestrated professionally managed publicity campaign based on false racial accusations, resulting in a Special Prosecutor.

You know the rest, or at least you thought you did until today.

We knew that Obama pumped up the racial angle when he commented that if he had a son, he would look like Trayvon. I wonder which Trayvon that was, the one the jury heard about who just liked to play video games with his siblings? Or the Trayvon of the cell phone, bragging not long before this incident about his fighting prowess and how he knew how to sucker punch people in the nose? But the jury never will know that.

We also knew that Eric Holder had the DOJ investigate the case, and that the FBI found no evidence that Zimmerman was racist or motivated by racism.

What we didn?t know until today was that the DOJ supported some of the anti-Zimmerman rallies, as disclosed by Judicial Watch (which also is helping me with my lawsuit to obtain David Gregory non-prosecution records from D.C.):

Judicial Watch announced today that it has obtained documents in response to local, state, and federal records requests revealing that a little-known unit of the Department of Justice (DOJ), the Community Relations Service (CRS), was deployed to Sanford, FL, following the Trayvon Martin shooting to help organize and manage rallies and protests against George Zimmerman.

The way the trial has been conducted is an equal travesty.

The prosecution is throwing everything against the wall, including conflicting and inconsistent theories that Trayvon was on the bottom of the fight screaming and alternatively that Trayvon was on top pulling back.

Similarly the prosecution creates obsessive distractions such as whether Zimmerman ?followed? Martin, even though that is legally irrelevant.

We have had the strange spectacle of the prosecution attacking its own police witnesses who had the temerity to believe George Zimmerman?s story and find it consistent and credible. The law enforcement world has been turned on its head in this prosecution, because it had to be turned on its head to justify the prosecution.

If you want to understand just how dirty this prosecution case has been, consider one bit of evidence which probably slipped by most viewers.

The prosecution elicited testimony from defense gun shot wound forensic expert Vincent DiMaio that he participated in studies of gunshot wounds on live animals (under a federally regulated and sanctioned program in which the animals were under anesthesia). What?s the relevance of that? Nothing. Except that the prosecution knew that there were animal owners on the jury, and this was an attempt to poison the jury on something having nothing to do with the guilt or innocence of George Zimmerman.

It?s all coming together in this case.

Racial politics supported by State power.

I hope the jury views the evidence with the dispassion of the original prosecutors. I fear it will not.

Update: Other astute observations:

Lee Stranahan:

?Welcome to Trayvongate, where the President of the United States used both the bully pulpit, the Department of Justice and sly media manipulation to gin up charges of racism in the George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin shooting. Now that the trial is almost finished and the only act of racism mentioned so far came from the victim?Martin called Zimmerman ?a creepy ass cracker? according to testimony?the cynical and repeated use of the race card by the White house is even more abhorrent.?

A reader at Althouse (h/t Instapundit):

?Look at the residents of this ?gated community? who lived just in that one spot. It is more diverse than a Democrat photo-op. This neighborhood had young and old, Asians and blacks and whites and Hispanics all living next to each other in peace, but needing a gates and a neighborhood watch to protect themselves from outsiders.?

This case never was about race. It?s infuriating and disheartening how the narrative was manipulated, and how the State was a party to it.

Update 7-11-2013: Add this Bill Lee interview to the mountain of evidence that the prosecution of George Zimmerman has been a political scam.

Ex-Sanford police chief: Zimmerman probe ?taken away from us?

The George Zimmerman investigation was hijacked ?in a number of ways? by outside forces, said the former police chief of Sanford, Florida.

Bill Lee, who testified Monday in Zimmerman?s second-degree murder trial, told CNN?s George Howell in an exclusive interview that he felt pressure from city officials to arrest Zimmerman to placate the public rather than as a matter of justice.

?It was (relayed) to me that they just wanted an arrest. They didn?t care if it got dismissed later,? he said. ?You don?t do that.?

When Sanford police arrived on the scene on February 26, 2012, after Zimmerman fatally shot unarmed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, they conducted a ?sound? investigation, and the evidence provided no probable cause to arrest Zimmerman at the scene, he said."





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Very bizarre.






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before Obama was the prez that's what he did for a living ... find black people to sue whitey for keeping them down... why are you surprised by this?

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Mark, if you look at the link, all of the documents are shown by judicial watch. They are all linked to right there.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/bulleti...in-was-killed/

Just scroll to the bottom, and EVERY SINGLE DOCUMENT is linked to. Why don't you guys actually look at the cite, prior to "calling bullshit". There are plenty of sources that are quoted on GFY that I know to be EXTREMELY biased and have agendas that I don't agree with, including the source of this article, but I look at them anyway since you never know where facts will come from. Hell, EVERY news agency has an agenda, a bias and a filter, but that doesn't mean you don't watch any of them, it means the exact opposite, you should get your information from as many types of sources as possible if you really are interested in finding out what is going on.


As for your other statement, imagine if Bush was still president, and made a statement that Zimmerman looked like his brother, or his uncle... What would the reaction be, and why would he say that?



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everyone would immediately suspect bush was a jew... seriously though no liberal is ever going to investigate a 'fact' that would put their preconized notions of superiority at risk when they can just call you stupid

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

obama should not be commenting on criminal cases period.

very true but this isn't the case... he has in fact weighed in a few times in favor of the blacks in criminal cases

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by newB

Not much of a surprise considering how the media built this up from the very beginning to be racially motivated. As a result, it's now a potential powder-keg waiting to blow.

I fear, and I imagine that the local and federal government fear as well, that if Zimmerman is acquitted we will see riots and subsequent looting as we did after the Rodney King verdicts.

the cops that were charged in the Rodney king deal were acquitted BTW, found 'not guilty' the media should be held accountable for the deaths-property damages caused by the riots... and jury tampering in the Zimmerman case

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

the cops that were charged in the Rodney king deal were acquitted BTW, found 'not guilty' the media should be held accountable for the deaths-property damages caused by the riots... and jury tampering in the Zimmerman case

as i recall, koons got a few years. i remember because i thought his name apropos.

[ReggieDurango]

Very Interesting Facts

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

sure he can its not illegal. go stop him

But it was ?? Inappropriate:

unfitting, unseemly, unbecoming, unbefitting, improper, impolite; incongruous, out of place/keeping, inapposite, inapt, infelicitous, ill-suited; ill-judged, ill-advised; informal out of order/line; formal malapropos.


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[Google Expert]

[georgeyw]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

name it then argued under what??

The position he holds has great influence

So he should stfu and stay neutral to avoid influencing the verdict.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

name it then argued under what??

18 USC § 1503 - Influencing or injuring officer or juror generally

it's weak, sure, but the influence is definitely there

[Barry-xlovecam]

You just don't get it -- the Florida "Stand Your Ground Law" is what's on trial here again.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

But it was ?? Inappropriate:

unfitting, unseemly, unbecoming, unbefitting, improper, impolite; incongruous, out of place/keeping, inapposite, inapt, infelicitous, ill-suited; ill-judged, ill-advised; informal out of order/line; formal malapropos.


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a lot of shit is that. thank the lord he is not worried about your opinions

[TCLGirls]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

obama should not be commenting on criminal cases period.

Doesn't the Prez have freedom of speech too?

After all, his office executes the laws. That's why the DOJ is under the executive branch. So it is entirely acceptable for the executor of laws to comment on legal cases. Preventing the President from commenting on cases would be like preventing the DA from commenting on cases...that would be absurd.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

18 USC § 1503 - Influencing or injuring officer or juror generally

it's weak, sure, but the influence is definitely there

your not even a citizen gfy law school degree?

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by TCLGirls

Doesn't the Prez have freedom of speech too?

After all, his office executes the laws. That's why the DOJ is under the executive branch. So it is entirely acceptable for the executor of laws to comment on legal cases. Preventing the President from commenting on cases would be like preventing the DA from commenting on cases...that would be absurd.

not if gfy says no (not really jokers)

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by TCLGirls

Doesn't the Prez have freedom of speech too?

After all, his office executes the laws. That's why the DOJ is under the executive branch. So it is entirely acceptable for the executor of laws to comment on legal cases. Preventing the President from commenting on cases would be like preventing the DA from commenting on cases...that would be absurd.

the president is responsible for making sure "that the Laws be faithfully executed"

certainly going on public record only speaking to one side of an outstanding case is not allowing the law to be faithfully executed, it's swaying the court of public opinion in facor of one side.

the least he could have done was speak to both sides of the case, since he felt obliged to open his trap about it.