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Old 08-04-2013, 07:18 PM   #1
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:mad FBI pressures Internet providers to install surveillance software

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57...ance-software/

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The U.S. government is quietly pressuring telecommunications providers to install eavesdropping technology deep inside companies' internal networks to facilitate surveillance efforts.

FBI officials have been sparring with carriers, a process that has on occasion included threats of contempt of court, in a bid to deploy government-provided software capable of intercepting and analyzing entire communications streams. The FBI's legal position during these discussions is that the software's real-time interception of metadata is authorized under the Patriot Act.

Attempts by the FBI to install what it internally refers to as "port reader" software, which have not been previously disclosed, were described to CNET in interviews over the last few weeks. One former government official said the software used to be known internally as the "harvesting program."
Carriers are "extra-cautious" and are resisting installation of the FBI's port reader software, an industry participant in the discussions said, in part because of the privacy and security risks of unknown surveillance technology operating on an sensitive internal network.

It's "an interception device by definition," said the industry participant, who spoke on condition of anonymity because court proceedings are sealed. "If magistrates knew more, they would approve less." It's unclear whether any carriers have installed port readers, and at least one is actively opposing the installation.

In a statement from a spokesman, the FBI said it has the legal authority to use alternate methods to collect Internet metadata, including source and destination IP addresses: "In circumstances where a provider is unable to comply with a court order utilizing its own technical solution(s), law enforcement may offer to provide technical assistance to meet the obligation of the court order."

AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon, Comcast, and Sprint declined to comment. A government source familiar with the port reader software said it is not used on an industry-wide basis, and only in situations where carriers' own wiretap compliance technology is insufficient to provide agents with what they are seeking.

For criminal investigations, police are generally required to obtain a wiretap order from a judge to intercept the contents of real-time communication streams, including e-mail bodies, Facebook messages, or streaming video. Similar procedures exist for intelligence investigations under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which has received intense scrutiny after Edward Snowden's disclosures about the National Security Agency's PRISM database.

There's a significant exception to both sets of laws: large quantities of metadata can be intercepted in real time through a so-called pen register and trap and trace order with minimal judicial review or oversight. That metadata includes IP addresses, e-mail addresses, identities of Facebook correspondents, Web sites visited, and possibly Internet search terms as well.

"The statute hasn't caught up with the realties of electronic communication," says Colleen Boothby, a partner at the Washington, D.C. firm of Levine, Blaszak, Block & Boothby who represents technology companies and industry associations. Judges are not always in a position, Boothby said, to understand how technology has outpaced the law.

Judges have concluded in the past that they have virtually no ability to deny pen register and trap and trace requests. "The court under the Act seemingly provides nothing more than a rubber stamp," wrote a federal magistrate judge in Florida, referring to the pen register law. A federal appeals court has ruled that the "judicial role in approving use of trap and trace devices is ministerial in nature."
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Old 08-04-2013, 08:45 PM   #2
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"authorized under the Patriot Act."


Didn't Obama say he was opposed to the Patriot Act?
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Old 08-04-2013, 08:54 PM   #3
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who spoke on condition of anonymity because court proceedings are sealed.
Kay, so no one has actually said anything about anything. Just a guy, allegedly, said so. According to this reporter. :/
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Old 08-04-2013, 08:55 PM   #4
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"authorized under the Patriot Act."


when that 'act' was to be voted, americans were warned but blinded by their false flag waving 'patriotism' ...

they got what they deserved
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Old 08-04-2013, 09:40 PM   #5
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i was reading a news article on how facebook saves everything you say and if you mention things such as bombs or i'm going to go blow up my school in the morning it automatically get's sent to the fbi , fb admins etc.
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Old 08-04-2013, 09:42 PM   #6
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"authorized under the Patriot Act."


Didn't Obama say he was opposed to the Patriot Act?
surely he wouldnt lie to us
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Old 08-04-2013, 10:42 PM   #7
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"authorized under the Patriot Act."


Didn't Obama say he was opposed to the Patriot Act?
He took the baton and just kept running with it.
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Old 08-05-2013, 02:34 AM   #8
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The Nuremberg Laws, PATRIOT Act -- different topic but the same sort of shit.
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Old 08-05-2013, 06:58 AM   #9
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I hear this everytime I watch a NHL game that include an american team:

'O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave'

Don't believe everything you hear on tv! lol
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Old 08-05-2013, 07:09 AM   #10
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I hear this everytime I watch a NHL game that include an american team:

'O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave'

Don't believe everything you hear on tv! lol
We are no better
it started with free trade...no harper is bending all of us over at the sametime
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Old 08-05-2013, 07:23 AM   #11
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We are no better
it started with free trade...no harper is bending all of us over at the sametime
I think Canada is way much better than usa when we talk about freedom.

For the economy it's a different story. I think the free trade with usa is nothing compared to all the chinese shits that invaded our store since that time.

And for Harper it's useless to talk about this clown lol...
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Old 08-05-2013, 07:26 AM   #12
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