Photoshop expert feedback needed

[pgmorin]

Hello!

Today I was in the mod to play with photoshop so I changed the background of a picture and added snowfall but the picture dont look natural at all. I know the girl outfit is not helping but she cosplay a ice demon anime caracter and there something else that make the picture look weird.

If you have any advices I alway look to improve myself

Thank

[Roald]

It doesnt look natural cause its cold as shit on the artic and she's dressed for the beach.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by pgmorin

Hello!

Today I was in the mod to play with photoshop so I changed the background of a picture and added snowfall but the picture dont look natural at all. I know the girl outfit is not helping but she cosplay a ice demon anime caracter and there something else that make the picture look weird.

If you have any advices I alway look to improve myself

Thank

Not a PS expert here, but at first glance, the scale is way off (model is too large in comparison to objects behind her - looks fake right away).

Also, I think that the contrast/tone should be different. Play with the level adjustment sliders.

The snowflakes effect only shows up when the photo is at full size, when GFY resizes it they are not visible.

I like the concept of your site, but would prefer to see your projects shot in real locations, instead of bare/artificial studios or with digital backgrounds.

Good luck!



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[rastan]

This isn't an easy-to-fix, but a casual observation. When you're trying to comp images together, *always* try and match the lighting- it'll make things a whole lot more believable.
If you look at your background plate, the light is very strongly from the right, casting cool shadows. The model is lit pretty much front on.
Now, you *COULD* manually fix this byl
1) duplicating your model layer
2) hide the top model layer (click the eye next to the layer panel)
3) on the now-visible original model layer, use the image>adjustments>photo filter, and choose a cooling filter. Then after you've cooled that down, use curves or levels to darken the layer a little so its sympathetic to the shadow-tones in the background image.
4) Make your new copy of the model layer visible again
5) Add a blank layer mask to that layer
6) click on it, and start painting with black. This painting now will paints holes in your warm/original layer, revealing the cooler darker layer behind. So, paint out the left side of the model, so she looks neutral/warm/lit on the right, and cool/dark/shadowed where you've painted out.

a) sorry if this is a bit hurried and doesnt make sense. b) sorry if it sounds patronising and you know photoshop well (Forgive me, I dont know your level of experience with it!)
c) Have a go, and feel free to show your new revision!

[pgmorin]

Thank for the feedback and help I gonna make the model smaller and work with the contrast/tone and see if I can improve that.

I did a survey about the location since I think like you that real location would add more value to the pictures. I was suprise to know that most of my members dont care, like the clean white look or would go for what is cheaper if it allow more update and better costumes.

I want to do a shooting on my roof top with Montreal skyline in the background so I gonna try it next time the costumes fit that setup

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Not a PS expert here, but at first glance, the scale is way off (model is too large in comparison to objects behind her - looks fake right away).

Also, I think that the contrast/tone should be different. Play with the level adjustment sliders.

The snowflakes effect only shows up when the photo is at full size, when GFY resizes it they are not visible.

I like the concept of your site, but would prefer to see your projects shot in real locations, instead of bare/artificial studios or with digital backgrounds.

Good luck!



ADG

[2MuchMark]

What Rastan said is exactly right.



When you are merging photos together you can make them look more natural by tweaking the colors. Reds are "warm" colors while blues are "cool" colors. You can reduce the warmth of an image by reducing the reds. The girl on the left has reds reduced. You can do this to any image or any layer of an image by clicking on image / adjustments / curves in photoshop. My example was done in 2 seconds but of course you want to experiment a while with various tweaks to get the image you want of course.

You can also try searching for terms like "color theory", "color matching" etc in Google and probably find some good links. One cool group of items I found is searching for "Sci-fi colors in movies". The best one is "Yellow and Teal in Transformers". Really interesting.

http://theabyssgazes.blogspot.ca/201...ease-stop.html

http://www.miletbaker.com/2011/12/13...-transformers/

[pgmorin]

Thank for the help next time dont take the energy to explain every step. I would say I'am 4/10 with photoshop but I know the tools. I dont have a artistic eye but if you say add a cold filter on the girl then I know how to do it ;)

I will work on the picture right now and show the result as soon it ready

Originally Posted by rastan

This isn't an easy-to-fix, but a casual observation. When you're trying to comp images together, *always* try and match the lighting- it'll make things a whole lot more believable.
If you look at your background plate, the light is very strongly from the right, casting cool shadows. The model is lit pretty much front on.
Now, you *COULD* manually fix this byl
1) duplicating your model layer
2) hide the top model layer (click the eye next to the layer panel)
3) on the now-visible original model layer, use the image>adjustments>photo filter, and choose a cooling filter. Then after you've cooled that down, use curves or levels to darken the layer a little so its sympathetic to the shadow-tones in the background image.
4) Make your new copy of the model layer visible again
5) Add a blank layer mask to that layer
6) click on it, and start painting with black. This painting now will paints holes in your warm/original layer, revealing the cooler darker layer behind. So, paint out the left side of the model, so she looks neutral/warm/lit on the right, and cool/dark/shadowed where you've painted out.

a) sorry if this is a bit hurried and doesnt make sense. b) sorry if it sounds patronising and you know photoshop well (Forgive me, I dont know your level of experience with it!)
c) Have a go, and feel free to show your new revision!

[pgmorin]

I did the change you tell me and it look better

The model is smaller to match with the background. I did use the blur tool at 30% on some edge and put shadow/remove shine on the left side. I add a lightning filter on the right to match the background lightning. Also did put a cold filter on a layer with low opacity. Finally I did increase a little bit the snow effect so it show more even on a small picture.

edit: and a light 0.2 pixel blur on the model so it look more like she behind real snow

[livexxx]

So how is she floating on water an why she have no footsies??

[pgmorin]

Originally Posted by livexxx

So how is she floating on water an why she have no footsies??

It because I didnt want the boat bow to show :P

[EddyTheDog]

It might be just me - However, I like the first one better - You are never going to kid anyone that the pic is real - Never going to happen...

Reduce the contrast a bit and crop some of the glacier - But what do I know.....

Edit: And lose the fag - Unless that's the niche you want - It looks fake...

[pgmorin]

Yes the setup itself make it impossible to make people belive it real but that not my goal. I did that to pratice and improve what I can do with photoshop. That picture is not going on my website

Thank for your advice I gonna test some crop and play with contrast

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

It might be just me - However, I like the first one better - You are never going to kid anyone that the pic is real - Never going to happen...

Reduce the contrast a bit and crop some of the glacier - But what do I know.....

[pgmorin]

With the crop

[EddyTheDog]

Originally Posted by pgmorin

Yes the setup itself make it impossible to make people belive it real but that not my goal. I did that to pratice and improve what I can do with photoshop. That picture is not going on my website

Thank for your advice I gonna test some crop and play with contrast

I didn't mean to sound so harsh - I like the idea of the pic - Sometimes its good to be bold and it might even work if you increased the contrast and maybe even added some shadow behind her to give her some depth over the very 2D image of the glacier...

I'm pissed so its best to ignore me.....

[ajrocks]

You need to match the lighting and color of the back ground on your model, maybe some shadow would help to show depth.

[Colmike9]

Originally Posted by ajrocks

You need to match the lighting and color of the back ground on your model, maybe some shadow would help to show depth.

I think the lighting makes the biggest difference. In this case, the light is coming in the back right in the background and light is coming in from the front left on the model and more dark spots/shadows are needed.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by pgmorin

Thank for the feedback and help I gonna make the model smaller and work with the contrast/tone and see if I can improve that.

I did a survey about the location since I think like you that real location would add more value to the pictures. I was suprise to know that most of my members dont care, like the clean white look or would go for what is cheaper if it allow more update and better costumes.

I want to do a shooting on my roof top with Montreal skyline in the background so I gonna try it next time the costumes fit that setup

yes the directions of the light are not working together... the model is lit flat while the ice is lit from the sun upstage camera left

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

yes the directions of the light are not working together... the model is lit flat while the ice is lit from the sun upstage camera left

sorry camera right...