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brassmonkey · 08-26-2013, 07:54 PM

Tourists Charged $135 for Coffee

A group of tourists was charged $135 for four coffees in Venice, Italy this week. The group of seven tourists from Rome sat down at Caffe Lavena in the famed St. Mark?s Square, ordered four espressos with shots of Amaro, an Italian liqueur, and enjoyed themselves. When the tourists received the bill for ?101, or $135, they were shocked to find espresso was $8 a cup, a shot of Amaro was $11, and they'd been charged another $56 because there was a string quintet playing!

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dyna mo · 08-26-2013, 08:11 PM

hah, what a bunch of crybabies!

96ukssob · 08-26-2013, 08:21 PM

Ive been there before and they LIST the prices clearly for you to see.

So they are just trying to make a scene, but what did they expect, a $1 espresso and $2 shot? This isn't Detroit...

Stupid tourist making society look worse. If you go to a nice place and nice things are happening, you will pay more. Idiots

brassmonkey · 08-26-2013, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossku69

Ive been there before and they LIST the prices clearly for you to see.

So they are just trying to make a scene, but what did they expect, a $1 espresso and $2 shot? This isn't Detroit...

Stupid tourist making society look worse. If you go to a nice place and nice things are happening, you will pay more. Idiots

the band was playing so they were charged $65 surcharge!!!

dyna mo · 08-26-2013, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossku69

Ive been there before and they LIST the prices clearly for you to see.

So they are just trying to make a scene, but what did they expect, a $1 espresso and $2 shot? This isn't Detroit...

Stupid tourist making society look worse. If you go to a nice place and nice things are happening, you will pay more. Idiots

it's embarrasing for the rest of us.

96ukssob · 08-26-2013, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

the band was playing so they were charged $65 surcharge!!!

so they should sit and play for free for people all day? Sounds like a 10 Euro charge if you want to sit down. Have you ever been out of the US? It's common to charge a "dinning" fee if you want to sit down or take your food to go.

obviously this is something you wont find in your local chain store because they will allow anyone in and eat outside food. try that in an upscale restaurant and see how fast your ass get's tossed out.

point being, doing some homework before you travel and don't be so ignorant all the time

next time you go to a sporting event, tell them you're not going to watch the game, you're going to sit in the seat and play candy crush, so you shouldn't have to pay.

brassmonkey · 08-26-2013, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossku69

so they should sit and play for free for people all day? Sounds like a 10 Euro charge if you want to sit down. Have you ever been out of the US? It's common to charge a "dinning" fee if you want to sit down or take your food to go.

obviously this is something you wont find in your local chain store because they will allow anyone in and eat outside food. try that in an upscale restaurant and see how fast your ass get's tossed out.

point being, doing some homework before you travel and don't be so ignorant all the time

next time you go to a sporting event, tell them you're not going to watch the game, you're going to sit in the seat and play candy crush, so you shouldn't have to pay.

if you go to a bar and a band is playing you walk over and tip them?

ErectMedia · 08-26-2013, 08:49 PM

Bought ice cream in florida once and every damn cone was ringing up $6-$8+, I didn't care cause was on vacation but once my aunt saw the first order ring up she changed her order on me, tried to get her to get whatever she was originally going to get but she wouldn't tell me as she thought the prices were crazy which they were, don't remember the total but cones for 5 people was pretty damn pricey, beware when the ice cream shop doesn't list prices

brassmonkey · 08-26-2013, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ErectMedia

Bought ice cream in florida once and every damn cone was ringing up $6-$8+, I didn't care cause was on vacation but once my aunt saw the first order ring up she changed her order on me, tried to get her to get whatever she was originally going to get but she wouldn't tell me as she thought the prices were crazy which they were, don't remember the total but cones for 5 people was pretty damn pricey, beware when the ice cream shop doesn't list prices

fuck that id say you eat it and walk out

dyna mo · 08-26-2013, 09:05 PM

i tell ya what pissed me off, wnet on the outside to get my coffee this morning and on whim, got 1 of those fancy coffee shop $3 blueberry muffins, the good ones, got home and it tasted like blueberry perfume, they used fake blueberry flavoring in gourmet muffin!

brassmonkey · 08-26-2013, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i tell ya what pissed me off, wnet on the outside to get my coffee this morning and on whim, got 1 of those fancy coffee shop $3 blueberry muffins, the good ones, got home and it tasted like blueberry perfume, they used fake blueberry flavoring in gourmet muffin!

did you finish it

dyna mo · 08-26-2013, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

did you finish it

hell yeah, it was $3!

their coffee is fucking delicious though.

brassmonkey · 08-26-2013, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo

hell yeah, it was $3!

their coffee is fucking delicious though.

yeah i would have as well

Due · 08-26-2013, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

if you go to a bar and a band is playing you walk over and tip them?

not in Europe

sandman! · 08-26-2013, 09:57 PM

i would have been fuck no on the music charge and paid the rest.

baddog · 08-26-2013, 10:21 PM

Charging for the band is weak (anyone that thinks otherwise, please speak up); but to think Amaretto in a Venice hotel was going to be cheap, I am not sure where their head was at.

I've never paid to sit down and eat my food in Europe.

jimmycastor · 08-27-2013, 02:43 AM

probably on of those tourist groups wearing t-shirts telling:
im on a spending frenzy and i wanna feel big for a day
please rip me off

i had my last cappuccino in venice for 2 EUZ /or wait was ist 1.50 and
if some singer, performer comes along send him to hell

HomerSimpson · 08-27-2013, 02:59 AM

What else could you expect from Italians?

nico-t · 08-27-2013, 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossku69

so they should sit and play for free for people all day? Sounds like a 10 Euro charge if you want to sit down. Have you ever been out of the US? It's common to charge a "dinning" fee if you want to sit down or take your food to go.

obviously this is something you wont find in your local chain store because they will allow anyone in and eat outside food. try that in an upscale restaurant and see how fast your ass get's tossed out.

point being, doing some homework before you travel and don't be so ignorant all the time

next time you go to a sporting event, tell them you're not going to watch the game, you're going to sit in the seat and play candy crush, so you shouldn't have to pay.

you're oblivious. This is NOT common in europe, this is clearly a rip off. Love to see you go to countries where people rip you off even more, i bet you are the favourite tourist for these low life scam artists.

marcush · 08-27-2013, 05:07 AM

i say, whoah :-O

brassmonkey · 08-27-2013, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

the band was playing so they were charged $65 surcharge!!!

a room full of tourist is a goldmine

the band would never stop playing id have a cd on repeat

John-ACWM · 08-27-2013, 05:16 AM

Good thing they didn't meet the mafia

PR_Glen · 08-27-2013, 08:13 AM

they haven't figured out cover charge over there? Pay before you go in, don't charge after, that is stupid and clearly a trap.. no matter how fancy you new money think you are...

pornguy · 08-27-2013, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossku69

so they should sit and play for free for people all day? Sounds like a 10 Euro charge if you want to sit down. Have you ever been out of the US? It's common to charge a "dinning" fee if you want to sit down or take your food to go.

obviously this is something you wont find in your local chain store because they will allow anyone in and eat outside food. try that in an upscale restaurant and see how fast your ass get's tossed out.

point being, doing some homework before you travel and don't be so ignorant all the time

next time you go to a sporting event, tell them you're not going to watch the game, you're going to sit in the seat and play candy crush, so you shouldn't have to pay.

Odd I go to upscale places all the time and never get charged for the entertainment, or a surcharge for sitting.

Maybe they were just trying to rip off some tourists which is common practice in a lot of places now days.

CDSmith · 08-27-2013, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

Maybe they were just trying to rip off some tourists which is common practice in a lot of places now days.

Finally someone said it. Bingo.

The place seems to have this attitude like "fucking rube tourists, so stupid they deserve to get their wallets raped by us smart cunning locals"

when in fact those tourists will likely never go back there, and not only that but with this story will spread the word to millions of other future tourists (such as myself for example) who will also watch for and avoid such places.

Those prices and charges are absurd.

Cyber Fucker · 08-27-2013, 09:35 AM

Good coffee must cost...

_Richard_ · 08-27-2013, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossku69

Ive been there before and they LIST the prices clearly for you to see.

So they are just trying to make a scene, but what did they expect, a $1 espresso and $2 shot? This isn't Detroit...

Stupid tourist making society look worse. If you go to a nice place and nice things are happening, you will pay more. Idiots

maybe they're trying to get their moneys worth

dyna mo · 08-27-2013, 09:47 AM

according to the article, that cafe is in a primo spot in venice and is very upscale, the prices and such are all listed and if that group wanted to, they could have gone inside and gotten cheaper coffee and not had to pay the band fee.

i can also see at certain times an upscale cafe bringing in an upscale band that commands upscale fees, i would not have a problem at all paying extra for that.

RubyGoodnight · 08-27-2013, 10:10 AM

The Costa Coffee in the town over from me charges more for 'eating in' rather than 'take away'. Not much - like 10% more - but its still more. This may be an extreme version of that kind of thing?

xNetworx · 08-27-2013, 10:34 AM

Was the band famous or something? I don't get it.

RandyRandy · 08-27-2013, 11:08 AM

I got a 75 cent espresso yesterday and a 75 cent beer last night - of course I'm in Bogota, Colombia right now.

brassmonkey · 08-27-2013, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyRandy

I got a 75 cent espresso yesterday and a 75 cent beer last night - of course I'm in Bogota, Colombia right now.

you just paid someones pay for a day.

dyna mo · 08-27-2013, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyRandy

I got a 75 cent espresso yesterday and a 75 cent beer last night - of course I'm in Bogota, Colombia right now.

i bet you had like 3 beers, maybe 4, no more than 5,.... 6 tops.

RandyRandy · 08-27-2013, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

you just paid someones pay for a day.

Minimum daily pay for 8 hours in Bogota is 15,000 pesos, so about $7. Most people make 20,000 and up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i bet you had like 3 beers, maybe 4, no more than 5,.... 6 tops.

I stop at three these days, especially with everything else available in Bogota.

dyna mo · 08-27-2013, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyRandy

Minimum daily pay for 8 hours in Bogota is 15,000 pesos, so about $7. Most people make 20,000 and up.

I stop at three these days, especially with everything else available in Bogota.

i hear ya, same in la la

i doubt i could get 3 beers down the hatch these days in fact. it's tasty though, how's columbia beer? decent?

brassmonkey · 08-27-2013, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyRandy

Minimum daily pay for 8 hours in Bogota is 15,000 pesos, so about $7. Most people make 20,000 and up.

I stop at three these days, especially with everything else available in Bogota.

alex.missyouth · 08-27-2013, 11:55 AM

Italy is like that, poor tourists weren't advised. I wouldn't have paid those 56 and obviously would have made a huge scene. =P

RandyRandy · 08-27-2013, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i hear ya, same in la la

i doubt i could get 3 beers down the hatch these days in fact. it's tasty though, how's columbia beer? decent?

They have some decent beers, all made by the same brewer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavaria_Brewery_(Colombia)

Top 3 beers are Poker (1,100 pesos) Aguila (1,300 pesos) and Club Colombia (1,500 pesos). I'm a big spender, so I go with the 75 cent Club Colombia.

But sometimes I chill at the Bogota Beer Company - a great microbrewery that's been around for about 10 years - maybe 8 locations in Bogota. But now we're talking $3-4 a beer - considering rolled joints go for $2.50, that's some serious cash!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17912032

Chosen · 08-28-2013, 03:35 AM

I don't like coffee, prefer black tea.

Chosen · 08-28-2013, 03:37 AM

BTW maybe 3 years ago I bought coffee to my GF in Venice, and it was either 1 euro or 50 eurocents, don't remember for sure.

Manfap · 08-28-2013, 03:59 AM

Their rent and rates for marks square are probably millions.

icecream sellers in Rome have to drop around $100k a year for a good spot, and that's just a cart.

brassmonkey · 08-28-2013, 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manfap

Their rent and rates for marks square are probably millions.

icecream sellers in Rome have to drop around $100k a year for a good spot, and that's just a cart.

old rustic buildings and streets where is the money going?

cherrycrush · 08-31-2013, 03:14 PM

coffeeeeeee

I got addicted to it in Europe, then I started getting panic attacks

globofun · 08-31-2013, 03:21 PM

That reminds me of the cross sales, card banging fools around here

seeandsee · 08-31-2013, 03:25 PM

Come on, that is ripoff!

Dvae · 09-01-2013, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by sandman!

i would have been fuck no on the music charge and paid the rest.

Not advisable. These are Italianos. You see they have this guy named Guido who breaks legs for a living.

SilentKnight · 09-01-2013, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy

Maybe they were just trying to rip off some tourists which is common practice in a lot of places now days.

A few years back we had a $100 gift certificate for a swank upscale restaurant in Niagara Falls - given to us as an anniversary gift.

We ordered a "dinner for two" selection from the menu - priced at just under $100.

When the bill arrived...they tried charging us $200 - double the price on the menu. The waiter claimed the "dinner for two" price was "per person". This wasn't indicated anywhere on the menu.

I refused to pay it and demanded to see the manager. He came out and attempted to justify the bill with the same bullshit explanation. I still refused to pay - told him it was a bait and switch stunt...and told him I'd be contacting Consumer and Corporate Affairs with a formal written complaint.

After a heated 20 mins. we settled the disagreement when I agreed to pay $100 (plus the drinks). I told him to fuck himself as I left...and still made a complaint to CCA a few days later.

This restaurant caters to/rips off the hordes of tourists during the summer months - but seemed to forget that locals keep them in business through the lean winter months. Word spreads pretty quick in the community about places like that.

I was gratified to see they eventually closed down about a year later.

DVTimes · 09-01-2013, 09:27 AM

i would not pay it.

i would have paid for the drinks and no mmore.

they did not order the music, so they cannot be charged for it.

i would have let the police deal with it.

brassmonkey · 09-01-2013, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

A few years back we had a $100 gift certificate for a swank upscale restaurant in Niagara Falls - given to us as an anniversary gift.

We ordered a "dinner for two" selection from the menu - priced at just under $100.

When the bill arrived...they tried charging us $200 - double the price on the menu. The waiter claimed the "dinner for two" price was "per person". This wasn't indicated anywhere on the menu.

I refused to pay it and demanded to see the manager. He came out and attempted to justify the bill with the same bullshit explanation. I still refused to pay - told him it was a bait and switch stunt...and told him I'd be contacting Consumer and Corporate Affairs with a formal written complaint.

After a heated 20 mins. we settled the disagreement when I agreed to pay $100 (plus the drinks). I told him to fuck himself as I left...and still made a complaint to CCA a few days later.

This restaurant caters to/rips off the hordes of tourists during the summer months - but seemed to forget that locals keep them in business through the lean winter months. Word spreads pretty quick in the community about places like that.

I was gratified to see they eventually closed down about a year later.

did the waiter look like this?

Sly · 09-01-2013, 09:39 AM

So far the only ones defending this are Americans. LOL. How funny is that?

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dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 63,941	i tell ya what pissed me off, wnet on the outside to get my coffee this morning and on whim, got 1 of those fancy coffee shop $3 blueberry muffins, the good ones, got home and it tasted like blueberry perfume, they used fake blueberry flavoring in gourmet muffin!

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dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 63,941	according to the article, that cafe is in a primo spot in venice and is very upscale, the prices and such are all listed and if that group wanted to, they could have gone inside and gotten cheaper coffee and not had to pay the band fee. i can also see at certain times an upscale cafe bringing in an upscale band that commands upscale fees, i would not have a problem at all paying extra for that.

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