damn lies about Syria

[3om3]

Quite simply the Syrian army is fighting terrorist groups are trying to simplify the control of al-Qaeda in the Middle East, in every way, and when he succeeded in defeat appeared that the issue of chemical weapons
Why now emerged that the weapons and the Syrian regime from the start owned
A plan known as the so-called new Middle East America failed to make it a success here in the Middle East is now trying to make it a success by force
The U.S. government wants to fragmentation of more and more countries in the region and the question here is why?
Because oil and Suez Canal and, of course, fight the mighty climb to the Far East countries, especially China, Japan and the reduction of Russian power
I know that there are a lot will not like my words and insulting, but it's true.
Use your brain first
Al Qaeda is just a puppet of U.S., but the magic turned against the magician
see this video
One-Qaeda in Syria warriors eat the heart of Syrian troops still alive
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KYXh9UuHqPM

[Rochard]

Depending on your point of view, they are either rebels or terrorists. On the other side, they are either the keepers of law and order or the evil empire.

[PornDiscounts-V]

That video was kind of entertaining.

In a Jeffery Dahmer sort of way.

[Barry-xlovecam]

[dyna mo]

yes, we can all count on a 4 minute youtube to splain it to us all.

[dyna mo]

it always cracks me up when there's some sort of highly elaborate lie and web of deceit that is so easily uncovered and revealed by a gfyer who stumbles across a fucking youtube.

and then they have to come here and learn us all on their big revelation.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

it always cracks me up when there's some sort of highly elaborate lie and web of deceit that is so easily uncovered and revealed by a gfyer who stumbles across a fucking youtube.

and then they have to come here and learn us all on their big revelation.

how is that different from mainstream media feeding you bullshit story after bullshit story? You seem to believe that just fine.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by nico-t

how is that different from mainstream media feeding you bullshit story after bullshit story? You seem to believe that just fine.

you don't have the slightest idea wtf i believe dipshit because if you did you would know by now my beliefs about mainsteam media

so fuck right off with your following me around gfy assesment of what i believe in.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by nico-t

how is that different from mainstream media feeding you bullshit story after bullshit story?

none at all

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

you don't have the slightest idea wtf i believe dipshit because if you did you would know by now my beliefs about mainsteam media

so fuck right off with your following me around gfy assesment of what i believe in.

I believe space aliens stole my luggage at the airport and everything I read

[3om3]

No one is trying to impose his opinion on the other
Just remember Iraq and Avgnstan and Vietnam before them
It's the truth
Enjoy the dirty American media
And remember what you call it al-Qaeda carried out attacks inside America itself
Now equipped U.S. war machine and let us in order to fight alongside al-Qaeda

[sperbonzo]

http://www.mintpressnews.com/witness...eapons/168135/

"EXCLUSIVE: Syrians In Ghouta Claim Saudi-Supplied Rebels Behind Chemical Attack
Rebels and local residents in Ghouta accuse Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan of providing chemical weapons to an al-Qaida linked rebel group.
By Dale Gavlak and Yahya Ababneh | August 29, 2013


Clarification: Dale Gavlak assisted in the research and writing process of this article, but was not on the ground in Syria. Reporter Yahya Ababneh, with whom the report was written in collaboration, was the correspondent on the ground in Ghouta who spoke directly with the rebels, their family members, victims of the chemical weapons attacks and local residents.

Gavlak is a MintPress News Middle East correspondent who has been freelancing for the AP as a Amman, Jordan correspondent for nearly a decade. This report is not an Associated Press article; rather it is exclusive to MintPress News.

Ghouta, Syria ? As the machinery for a U.S.-led military intervention in Syria gathers pace following last week?s chemical weapons attack, the U.S. and its allies may be targeting the wrong culprit.

Interviews with people in Damascus and Ghouta, a suburb of the Syrian capital, where the humanitarian agency Doctors Without Borders said at least 355 people had died last week from what it believed to be a neurotoxic agent, appear to indicate as much.

The U.S., Britain, and France as well as the Arab League have accused the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad for carrying out the chemical weapons attack, which mainly targeted civilians. U.S. warships are stationed in the Mediterranean Sea to launch military strikes against Syria in punishment for carrying out a massive chemical weapons attack. The U.S. and others are not interested in examining any contrary evidence, with U.S Secretary of State John Kerry saying Monday that Assad?s guilt was ?a judgment ? already clear to the world.?

However, from numerous interviews with doctors, Ghouta residents, rebel fighters and their families, a different picture emerges. Many believe that certain rebels received chemical weapons via the Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, and were responsible for carrying out the dealing gas attack.

?My son came to me two weeks ago asking what I thought the weapons were that he had been asked to carry,? said Abu Abdel-Moneim, the father of a rebel fighting to unseat Assad, who lives in Ghouta.

Abdel-Moneim said his son and 12 other rebels were killed inside of a tunnel used to store weapons provided by a Saudi militant, known as Abu Ayesha, who was leading a fighting battalion. The father described the weapons as having a ?tube-like structure? while others were like a ?huge gas bottle.?

Ghouta townspeople said the rebels were using mosques and private houses to sleep while storing their weapons in tunnels.

Abdel-Moneim said his son and the others died during the chemical weapons attack. That same day, the militant group Jabhat al-Nusra, which is linked to al-Qaida, announced that it would similarly attack civilians in the Assad regime?s heartland of Latakia on Syria?s western coast, in purported retaliation.

?They didn?t tell us what these arms were or how to use them,? complained a female fighter named ?K.? ?We didn?t know they were chemical weapons. We never imagined they were chemical weapons.?

?When Saudi Prince Bandar gives such weapons to people, he must give them to those who know how to handle and use them,? she warned. She, like other Syrians, do not want to use their full names for fear of retribution.

A well-known rebel leader in Ghouta named ?J? agreed. ?Jabhat al-Nusra militants do not cooperate with other rebels, except with fighting on the ground. They do not share secret information. They merely used some ordinary rebels to carry and operate this material,? he said.

?We were very curious about these arms. And unfortunately, some of the fighters handled the weapons improperly and set off the explosions,? ?J? said.

Doctors who treated the chemical weapons attack victims cautioned interviewers to be careful about asking questions regarding who, exactly, was responsible for the deadly assault.

The humanitarian group Doctors Without Borders added that health workers aiding 3,600 patients also reported experiencing similar symptoms, including frothing at the mouth, respiratory distress, convulsions and blurry vision. The group has not been able to independently verify the information.

More than a dozen rebels interviewed reported that their salaries came from the Saudi government.


Saudi involvement

In a recent article for Business Insider, reporter Geoffrey Ingersoll highlighted Saudi Prince Bandar?s role in the two-and-a-half year Syrian civil war. Many observers believe Bandar, with his close ties to Washington, has been at the very heart of the push for war by the U.S. against Assad.

Ingersoll referred to an article in the U.K.?s Daily Telegraph about secret Russian-Saudi talks alleging that Bandar offered Russian President Vladimir Putin cheap oil in exchange for dumping Assad.

?Prince Bandar pledged to safeguard Russia?s naval base in Syria if the Assad regime is toppled, but he also hinted at Chechen terrorist attacks on Russia?s Winter Olympics in Sochi if there is no accord,? Ingersoll wrote.

?I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us,? Bandar allegedly told the Russians.

?Along with Saudi officials, the U.S. allegedly gave the Saudi intelligence chief the thumbs up to conduct these talks with Russia, which comes as no surprise,? Ingersoll wrote.

?Bandar is American-educated, both military and collegiate, served as a highly influential Saudi Ambassador to the U.S., and the CIA totally loves this guy,? he added.

According to U.K.?s Independent newspaper, it was Prince Bandar?s intelligence agency that first brought allegations of the use of sarin gas by the regime to the attention of Western allies in February.

The Wall Street Journal recently reported that the CIA realized Saudi Arabia was ?serious? about toppling Assad when the Saudi king named Prince Bandar to lead the effort.

?They believed that Prince Bandar, a veteran of the diplomatic intrigues of Washington and the Arab world, could deliver what the CIA couldn?t: planeloads of money and arms, and, as one U.S. diplomat put it, wasta, Arabic for under-the-table clout,? it said.

Bandar has been advancing Saudi Arabia?s top foreign policy goal, WSJ reported, of defeating Assad and his Iranian and Hezbollah allies.

To that aim, Bandar worked Washington to back a program to arm and train rebels out of a planned military base in Jordan.

The newspaper reports that he met with the ?uneasy Jordanians about such a base?:

His meetings in Amman with Jordan?s King Abdullah sometimes ran to eight hours in a single sitting. ?The king would joke: ?Oh, Bandar?s coming again? Let?s clear two days for the meeting,? ? said a person familiar with the meetings.

Jordan?s financial dependence on Saudi Arabia may have given the Saudis strong leverage. An operations center in Jordan started going online in the summer of 2012, including an airstrip and warehouses for arms. Saudi-procured AK-47s and ammunition arrived, WSJ reported, citing Arab officials.

Although Saudi Arabia has officially maintained that it supported more moderate rebels, the newspaper reported that ?funds and arms were being funneled to radicals on the side, simply to counter the influence of rival Islamists backed by Qatar.?

But rebels interviewed said Prince Bandar is referred to as ?al-Habib? or ?the lover? by al-Qaida militants fighting in Syria.

Peter Oborne, writing in the Daily Telegraph on Thursday, has issued a word of caution about Washington?s rush to punish the Assad regime with so-called ?limited? strikes not meant to overthrow the Syrian leader but diminish his capacity to use chemical weapons:

Consider this: the only beneficiaries from the atrocity were the rebels, previously losing the war, who now have Britain and America ready to intervene on their side. While there seems to be little doubt that chemical weapons were used, there is doubt about who deployed them.

It is important to remember that Assad has been accused of using poison gas against civilians before. But on that occasion, Carla del Ponte, a U.N. commissioner on Syria, concluded that the rebels, not Assad, were probably responsible.

Some information in this article could not be independently verified. Mint Press News will continue to provide further information and updates .

Dale Gavlak is a Middle East correspondent for Mint Press News and has reported from Amman, Jordan, writing for the Associated Press, NPR and BBC. An expert in Middle Eastern affairs, Gavlak covers the Levant region, writing on topics including politics, social issues and economic trends. Dale holds a M.A. in Middle Eastern Studies from the University of Chicago. Contact Dale at [email protected]

Yahya Ababneh is a Jordanian freelance journalist and is currently working on a master?s degree in journalism, He has covered events in Jordan, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Russia and Libya. His stories have appeared on Amman Net, Saraya News, Gerasa News and elsewhere."


.

[klinton]

you have to be brainless to believe mainstream corp controlled media........and their agenda

there is no democracy nowhere, just interests of big companies/ banks/ rich people etc....

however , in some countries you can bitch about it, in other they will put you in jail/ beat you for telling that...the only difference

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

you don't have the slightest idea wtf i believe dipshit because if you did you would know by now my beliefs about mainsteam media

so fuck right off with your following me around gfy assesment of what i believe in.

im not following you around, you post in every damn thread with completely ridiculous comments.. hard to miss and ignore. Maybe i should just put you on ignore, you'd be the first ever since i joined in 2004.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

it always cracks me up when there's some sort of highly elaborate lie and web of deceit that is so easily uncovered and revealed by a gfyer who stumbles across a fucking youtube.

and then they have to come here and learn us all on their big revelation.

It's admitted across every news spectrum AL Qaeda is the leading force being the "rebels." We are now and have always been supporting Al Qaeda especially considering we created the "database."

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by nico-t

im not following you around, you post in every damn thread with completely ridiculous comments.. hard to miss and ignore. Maybe i should just put you on ignore, you'd be the first ever since i joined in 2004.

why you think i give a shit is beyond me, i couldn't recall a single post of your's.

[Captain Kawaii]

Thanks, Mike. Hopefully some of the mainstream chickenheads will put a sock in it.

I heard this rumor for some days and expected Saudis to be working in concert with US and friend in region.

Have people always been so despicable? It seems so.

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

http://www.mintpressnews.com/witness...eapons/168135/

"EXCLUSIVE: Syrians In Ghouta Claim Saudi-Supplied Rebels Behind Chemical Attack
Rebels and local residents in Ghouta accuse Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan of providing chemical weapons to an al-Qaida linked rebel group.
By Dale Gavlak and Yahya Ababneh | August 29, 2013


Clarification: Dale Gavlak assisted in the research and writing process of this article, but was not on the ground in Syria. Reporter Yahya Ababneh, with whom the report was written in collaboration, was the correspondent on the ground in Ghouta who spoke directly with the rebels, their family members, victims of the chemical weapons attacks and local residents.

Gavlak is a MintPress News Middle East correspondent who has been freelancing for the AP as a Amman, Jordan correspondent for nearly a decade. This report is not an Associated Press article; rather it is exclusive to MintPress News.

Ghouta, Syria ? As the machinery for a U.S.-led military intervention in Syria gathers pace following last week?s chemical weapons attack, the U.S. and its allies may be targeting the wrong culprit.

Interviews with people in Damascus and Ghouta, a suburb of the Syrian capital, where the humanitarian agency Doctors Without Borders said at least 355 people had died last week from what it believed to be a neurotoxic agent, appear to indicate as much.

The U.S., Britain, and France as well as the Arab League have accused the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad for carrying out the chemical weapons attack, which mainly targeted civilians. U.S. warships are stationed in the Mediterranean Sea to launch military strikes against Syria in punishment for carrying out a massive chemical weapons attack. The U.S. and others are not interested in examining any contrary evidence, with U.S Secretary of State John Kerry saying Monday that Assad?s guilt was ?a judgment ? already clear to the world.?

However, from numerous interviews with doctors, Ghouta residents, rebel fighters and their families, a different picture emerges. Many believe that certain rebels received chemical weapons via the Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, and were responsible for carrying out the dealing gas attack.

?My son came to me two weeks ago asking what I thought the weapons were that he had been asked to carry,? said Abu Abdel-Moneim, the father of a rebel fighting to unseat Assad, who lives in Ghouta.

Abdel-Moneim said his son and 12 other rebels were killed inside of a tunnel used to store weapons provided by a Saudi militant, known as Abu Ayesha, who was leading a fighting battalion. The father described the weapons as having a ?tube-like structure? while others were like a ?huge gas bottle.?

Ghouta townspeople said the rebels were using mosques and private houses to sleep while storing their weapons in tunnels.

Abdel-Moneim said his son and the others died during the chemical weapons attack. That same day, the militant group Jabhat al-Nusra, which is linked to al-Qaida, announced that it would similarly attack civilians in the Assad regime?s heartland of Latakia on Syria?s western coast, in purported retaliation.

?They didn?t tell us what these arms were or how to use them,? complained a female fighter named ?K.? ?We didn?t know they were chemical weapons. We never imagined they were chemical weapons.?

?When Saudi Prince Bandar gives such weapons to people, he must give them to those who know how to handle and use them,? she warned. She, like other Syrians, do not want to use their full names for fear of retribution.

A well-known rebel leader in Ghouta named ?J? agreed. ?Jabhat al-Nusra militants do not cooperate with other rebels, except with fighting on the ground. They do not share secret information. They merely used some ordinary rebels to carry and operate this material,? he said.

?We were very curious about these arms. And unfortunately, some of the fighters handled the weapons improperly and set off the explosions,? ?J? said.

Doctors who treated the chemical weapons attack victims cautioned interviewers to be careful about asking questions regarding who, exactly, was responsible for the deadly assault.

The humanitarian group Doctors Without Borders added that health workers aiding 3,600 patients also reported experiencing similar symptoms, including frothing at the mouth, respiratory distress, convulsions and blurry vision. The group has not been able to independently verify the information.

More than a dozen rebels interviewed reported that their salaries came from the Saudi government.


Saudi involvement

In a recent article for Business Insider, reporter Geoffrey Ingersoll highlighted Saudi Prince Bandar?s role in the two-and-a-half year Syrian civil war. Many observers believe Bandar, with his close ties to Washington, has been at the very heart of the push for war by the U.S. against Assad.

Ingersoll referred to an article in the U.K.?s Daily Telegraph about secret Russian-Saudi talks alleging that Bandar offered Russian President Vladimir Putin cheap oil in exchange for dumping Assad.

?Prince Bandar pledged to safeguard Russia?s naval base in Syria if the Assad regime is toppled, but he also hinted at Chechen terrorist attacks on Russia?s Winter Olympics in Sochi if there is no accord,? Ingersoll wrote.

?I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us,? Bandar allegedly told the Russians.

?Along with Saudi officials, the U.S. allegedly gave the Saudi intelligence chief the thumbs up to conduct these talks with Russia, which comes as no surprise,? Ingersoll wrote.

?Bandar is American-educated, both military and collegiate, served as a highly influential Saudi Ambassador to the U.S., and the CIA totally loves this guy,? he added.

According to U.K.?s Independent newspaper, it was Prince Bandar?s intelligence agency that first brought allegations of the use of sarin gas by the regime to the attention of Western allies in February.

The Wall Street Journal recently reported that the CIA realized Saudi Arabia was ?serious? about toppling Assad when the Saudi king named Prince Bandar to lead the effort.

?They believed that Prince Bandar, a veteran of the diplomatic intrigues of Washington and the Arab world, could deliver what the CIA couldn?t: planeloads of money and arms, and, as one U.S. diplomat put it, wasta, Arabic for under-the-table clout,? it said.

Bandar has been advancing Saudi Arabia?s top foreign policy goal, WSJ reported, of defeating Assad and his Iranian and Hezbollah allies.

To that aim, Bandar worked Washington to back a program to arm and train rebels out of a planned military base in Jordan.

The newspaper reports that he met with the ?uneasy Jordanians about such a base?:

His meetings in Amman with Jordan?s King Abdullah sometimes ran to eight hours in a single sitting. ?The king would joke: ?Oh, Bandar?s coming again? Let?s clear two days for the meeting,? ? said a person familiar with the meetings.

Jordan?s financial dependence on Saudi Arabia may have given the Saudis strong leverage. An operations center in Jordan started going online in the summer of 2012, including an airstrip and warehouses for arms. Saudi-procured AK-47s and ammunition arrived, WSJ reported, citing Arab officials.

Although Saudi Arabia has officially maintained that it supported more moderate rebels, the newspaper reported that ?funds and arms were being funneled to radicals on the side, simply to counter the influence of rival Islamists backed by Qatar.?

But rebels interviewed said Prince Bandar is referred to as ?al-Habib? or ?the lover? by al-Qaida militants fighting in Syria.

Peter Oborne, writing in the Daily Telegraph on Thursday, has issued a word of caution about Washington?s rush to punish the Assad regime with so-called ?limited? strikes not meant to overthrow the Syrian leader but diminish his capacity to use chemical weapons:

Consider this: the only beneficiaries from the atrocity were the rebels, previously losing the war, who now have Britain and America ready to intervene on their side. While there seems to be little doubt that chemical weapons were used, there is doubt about who deployed them.

It is important to remember that Assad has been accused of using poison gas against civilians before. But on that occasion, Carla del Ponte, a U.N. commissioner on Syria, concluded that the rebels, not Assad, were probably responsible.

Some information in this article could not be independently verified. Mint Press News will continue to provide further information and updates .

Dale Gavlak is a Middle East correspondent for Mint Press News and has reported from Amman, Jordan, writing for the Associated Press, NPR and BBC. An expert in Middle Eastern affairs, Gavlak covers the Levant region, writing on topics including politics, social issues and economic trends. Dale holds a M.A. in Middle Eastern Studies from the University of Chicago. Contact Dale at [email protected]

Yahya Ababneh is a Jordanian freelance journalist and is currently working on a master?s degree in journalism, He has covered events in Jordan, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Russia and Libya. His stories have appeared on Amman Net, Saraya News, Gerasa News and elsewhere."


.

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

why you think i give a shit is beyond me, i couldn't recall a single post of your's.

Think BEFORE posting. Thank you.

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

it always cracks me up when there's some sort of highly elaborate lie and web of deceit that is so easily uncovered and revealed by a gfyer who stumbles across a fucking youtube.

and then they have to come here and learn us all on their big revelation.

Spot on.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

Think BEFORE posting. Thank you.

stick it up your ass before you post. you're welcome.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Spot on.

spot on?

so you're saying gfy wasn't talking about the NSA thing before hand?

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

spot on?

so you're saying gfy wasn't talking about the NSA thing before hand?

That was something you just said.

Confused?

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by 3om3

Quite simply the Syrian army is fighting terrorist groups are trying to simplify the control of al-Qaeda in the Middle East, in every way, and when he succeeded in defeat appeared that the issue of chemical weapons
Why now emerged that the weapons and the Syrian regime from the start owned
A plan known as the so-called new Middle East America failed to make it a success here in the Middle East is now trying to make it a success by force
The U.S. government wants to fragmentation of more and more countries in the region and the question here is why?
Because oil and Suez Canal and, of course, fight the mighty climb to the Far East countries, especially China, Japan and the reduction of Russian power
I know that there are a lot will not like my words and insulting, but it's true.
Use your brain first
Al Qaeda is just a puppet of U.S., but the magic turned against the magician
see this video
One-Qaeda in Syria warriors eat the heart of Syrian troops still alive
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KYXh9UuHqPM

How u fuckin engrish get so good all of a sudden?

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

That was something you just said.

Confused?

something i just said about what?

Are you trying to say i simply claimed it was discussed on gfy, but never actually happened?

one of those times when grammar and syntax.. are kinda important.

[AJ_NETWORK]

Nations are at war being played against each other by the international banking cartel financing both sides of all wars. That is their playbook, it profits them trillions of dollars and control of resources, and pushes their New World Order agenda one step further.

Divide and Conquer, plain and simple.